Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/The Infernal Cauldron

Voting period ends on 25 Nov 2024 at 15:32:43 (UTC)

Original – A hand-colored print of The Infernal Cauldron, a 1903 trick film by influential director Georges Méliès.

Reason: Great quality copy of a hand-colored short silent film. The film itself isn't especially famous, so while the file has obvious EV for the article about it specifically, I think its highest value is illustrating the film's genre, that of the trick film. Trick films were essentially special effects demos and the genre went extinct as the industry matured. This is a great snapshot of what cinema looked like in the age before established conventions.
Articles in which this image appears: Trick film, The Infernal Cauldron
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Film
Creator: Georges Méliès, Star Film Company

Support as nominator – Moonreach (talk) 15:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - GamerPro64 23:33, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support as animator ;-) - been in the business for 40 years... --Janke | Talk 10:59, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Carlosmarkos2345 14:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – The link here has a restoration copyright claim (the last frame). Does it hold water? I doubt it, but I am not sure. Hope others can opine. Bammesk (talk) 19:05, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restorations for still images tend to be ignored in terms of copyright. That being said, I see that the 4K restoration of Night of the Living Dead was granted a copyright, so there exists a possibility for a moving image. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:41, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks. Some restorations don't rise to the level of originality. Suggest placing an inquiry at Commons:Village pump/Copyright and if they dismiss the claim, then it's all good. Bammesk (talk) 17:30, 17 November 2024 (UTC) . . . . I placed an inquiry for an opinion on Commons. Bammesk (talk) 02:24, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chris:, regarding granting of copyright to the 4K restoration of Night of the Living Dead, the only source I could find is This film review, which is not binding. I suppose there is a copyright notice on the restored film itself, which wouldn't be binding either, because that would just be a claim. I found This discussion in a forum (regarding the 4K restoration), it mirrors the Commons discussion Here. Interestingly, the forum discussion says a 'copyright registration' is just a registration, and not equivalent to the 'granting of copyright'. From what I gathered, the 4K restored Night of the Living Dead was released with additional documentary footage, not film footage, but additional explanatory content, therefore the explanatory additions themselves could be covered by copyright. Just my non-expert opinion. Bammesk (talk) 02:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support – I am confident the nominated film (which has no music) will survive a "deletion request" on Commons. Compared to older copies of the film (on YouTube), the restoration is solely technical. Granted the restoration must have started from a good quality scan of the original film. The restoration contains no creative additions of content. Based on This discussion and the feedback I got Here, solely improving the technical quality of a film does not warrant new copyrights. Bammesk (talk) 02:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]