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Original - An illustration of two males kissing, a common feature in Yaoi manga. The receiving partner is somewhat androgynous, as is common in the genre, while the image itself is drawn partially with copic markers, which are common in the industry
Reason
I think this should qualify as a featured picture as it is a tactful representation of the subject matter, Yaoi (also known as boys love), which as noted by the article is "female-oriented fictional media that focus on homoerotic or homoromantic male relationships". The image is of high resolution and good artistic quality. Although this is rightfully not a FP criteria, it should also be noted that the image is featured at Commons. As a side note, it appears that this image would be one of the first anime and manga related FPs. I am aware that the nomination could be quite controversial.
Articles in which this image appears
Yaoi (lead image)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/East Asian art (could theoretically be put in Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Others)
Creator
Sen Cross, uploaded by Don-kun
  • Sen Cross appears to be a volunteer/employee with Animexx, a group for the promotion of Japanese animation in Germany. Art styles vary heavily in Japanese animation (like in Western animation). A look through the manga-related categories in commons shows rather plain computer assisted drawings (such as this) and more detailed drawings (such as this. I will request feedback from from WP:ANIME regarding the different art styles used in Japanese drawings, both fan art and commercial productions. I would assume that works meant to be sold en masse for profit would use a simpler style. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:56, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: While uses of crayon pencils are certainly less common, use of Copic markers is extremely common (I would say they are even the unofficial standard, given how many artists there use them). I suspect the reason why crayon pencils are used less is because they produce a less-even coverage than do markers, and therefore make the reproduction of the work slightly more difficult, especially when it comes to turning it into animation. Markers provide a smoother appearance, more in keeping with what you see in most animation coloring. That said, this image is typical and accurate in general appearance to many anime and manga images released by professional artists in Japan, and I see no issues with it being made a featured image as it is very well done and high quality (as Commons has already recognized). It is free, so that makes it very valuable in an area where high quality free images are extremely hard to come by. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:27, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I believe it meets the criteria, it might be deemed unsuitable for picture of the day, but that is an entirely separate issue. JJ Harrison (talk) 22:10, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The character on the right looks like a woman to me (or at best androgynous), so I think it's not the best illustration of the genre. (Correct me if I'm wrong). Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:55, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I also doubt that the general public would be interested in a species of shrubs from Western Australia but that did not prevent Banksia brownii from becoming a featured article. General interest does not appear to be a criteria.--70.24.215.48 (talk) 22:19, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree that your claim about this being of little interest to "the general public" is not really a particularly good argument against featuring this. I am concerned about the fact that, so far as I can see, we have no reliable source tying this work/artist to this genre. Yes, it's free, but that doesn't mean we need to feature it. J Milburn (talk) 00:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -- As with all other works of art nominated to FPC (including Mona Lisa), I'm not sure what are we are really trying to feature here: the artistic quality, the technical quality of the digital reproduction (not applicable here, I suppose) or anything else? And why should we use different criteria for assessing this particular picture, like being an excellent illustration of a certain manga genre? Do we feature a painting of van Gogh for its EV in illustrating the Impressionism? In the absence of objective evaluation criteria, I use my personal taste and oppose. Nothing special, really, other than the slight erotic/forbidden touch -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 18:55, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • As noted above, a high-quality free image from this genre is quite difficult to find, which would make it different than impressionism. As also noted above, it includes styles common to the genre (androgyny, Copic markers), as well as another one I'll add here: one of the partners being a "uke" or receiver, generally the more androgynous one. Regarding the illustration of styles, this just-promoted nude was supported mainly on representing the medium and the artist, this was for representing the subject, as was this; as I have indicated above, and has been supported by several editors, the image is an accurate representation of the genre (styles, themes, relationship between the characters) which gives it a higher EV. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:21, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Crisco and Nihonjoe have made very convincing arguments for its EV. The complaints about aesthetics don't really make any sense. A good representative image of the genre is going to look like this. Otherwise, it would lose its EV. I think the image caption could be extended to include brief comments on angrogyny and copic markers, since those seem to be noteworthy features of the image. Fallingmasonry (talk) 14:48, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 09:35, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]