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Apostlebird

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 12 Aug 2019 at 01:38:09 (UTC)

CSS image crop, suggestion

Reason: Reshoot!
Articles in which this image appears: Apostlebird
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator: JJ Harrison

Support as nominator – JJ Harrison (talk) 01:38, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurred foreground. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:09, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Effect of the lens, not manual blurring. See this. --cart-Talk 10:23, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, as I said, opposed on aethetic grounds. Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:56, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That was said on my talk page on Commons, not here, so I'm glad you clarified your vote on this page too. Your very short reviews can sometimes be too short and hard to understand. --cart-Talk 13:48, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Contrast between grass and blurred parts just looks unnatural. --A.Savin (talk) 13:10, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not a good compo IMO. In some cases this special lens can make astonishing photos, but for this the bird gets sharp while the whole scene looks strange and unnatural. --cart-Talk 14:04, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I added a CSS image crop as a suggestion. The image has EV. Per user:Cart I looked at the flickr examples here. These two photographers [1], [2] list lens settings very similar to the nom image. The foreground bokeh's abrupt transition to the in-focus region is a common thing [3], [4], [5], [6]. These two photos [7], [8] are very interesting: same lens setting but dissimilar bokeh because of foreground distance or elevation. Here is the lens wide open: [9]. Bammesk (talk) 14:25, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Just as an addendum. There is a technique aspect to this - the photo is taken prone with the camera very close to the ground. This means that the background is relatively distant and hence out of focus. JJ Harrison (talk) 09:06, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Noted, it makes more sense now. The heavy blur of the foreground bokeh is distracting. Such blur is common in backgrounds (expected), but not usually seen in foregrounds. Also, the abrupt transition between it and the in-focus region amplifies the effect, as if the ground is elevated in the near field and obstructing the view, rather than flat. Weak support original, some cropping of the foreground would be an improvement IMO. Bammesk (talk) 16:00, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt Cwilson97 (talk) 18:14, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt.--Vulp here 09:09, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:04, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]