Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Archilochus-alexandri-002-edit.jpg

Archilochus alexandri

Per the suggestion of Niro5 on my first nomination attempt, I'm trying again with a different image. It was created by Mdf, and appears in Black-chinned hummingbird. It's high res, sharp, fairly well lit, and has good DOF ;) Also, it's one of the better images of a female of this species on the net, and is a challenging subject to photograph. It might benefit from an edit to reduce grain.

Nominate and ~~support~~. - Pharaoh Hound (talk) 13:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Support edit 1. --Pharaoh Hound (talk) 18:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I wouldn't recommend noise/grain reduction for this image. First, because the noise is not particularly distracting, appearing mostly in the out-of-focus regions. Second, because noise reduction can (in some cases) reduce detail in the image, and this particular image looks like it might be affected that way. Overall, excellent shot as is. -- Moondigger 13:36, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support A bit of grain on the wings, but it is undistracting. | AndonicO 14:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent - Adrian Pingstone 15:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment because of the talk about noise reduction, I made a new edit. No detail was lost in the bird except maybe a little in the wings (which are already blurry). I don't think running it through noise reduction was at all detrimental, but I will leave that up to you all to decide. (and remember to view the image at 100%, maybe with two tabs open of the before and after to see the change).--Andrew c 16:37, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that the bird lost some color with the edit. Apart from that, the edit is an improvement. --KFP (talk | contribs) 17:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I had color noise reduction on as well, and didn't mask the bird. A little blue on the highlight of the beak, and a bit of orange in the shadows of the feathers was lost. I'll re-upload the image with those elements restored. Sorry about that.--Andrew c 17:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC) Ok, it's fixed now. In case anyone was wondering, here is the first upload with the bad color noise reduction. I had 3 tabs open and the differences are slight but noticable. Good catch KFP!--Andrew c 17:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support either, with preference for edit 1. --KFP (talk | contribs) 17:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support Edit 1. Great work. drumguy8800 C T 18:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I tried to get a picture of a hummingbird in my yard but it won't hold still long enough for me to shoot it. :) howch e ng {chat} 18:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral for Edit 1 It's the loss of detail in the wings I was worried about with the noise reduction, and sure enough Edit 1 has lost detail in the wings (obvious if you open in 2 tabs and switch back and forth between them). The loss of color info is also a concern. I maintain support for the original. -- Moondigger 19:04, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know, the color issue was resolved. The pixles on the bird itself are unchanged. As for the the detail in the wings, I guess that is a matter of opinion, because how much detail is there really in motion blur? But still, your criticism is welcome.--Andrew c 21:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support Edit 1. I don't think that the wings lost too much detail. Besides, noise reduction was needed quite badly. NauticaShad e s 20:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support Original - The noise wasn't distrating at all, especially since it was mostly in the background. Man, I knew I should have nominated it, I am still a nomination virgin!--Niro5 05:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support edit 1. Here's another supporting vote. Nice shot. --Tewy 19:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support edit 1 Terrific image in the first place, even better with the edit. Hello32020 19:55, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support edit 1 How does he do this?! Noise reduction helped, though. --YFB ¿ 01:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support edit 1 that's such a cool shot. Valley2city 04:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Image:Archilochus-alexandri-002-edit1.jpg --NauticaShad e s 20:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]