Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/The Buggles discography/archive1

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The list was not promoted by Hahc21 10:03, 4 September 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

The Buggles discography

Featured list candidates/The Buggles discography/archive1

Nominator(s): Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 23:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

After doing some work on this, and looking for more chart positions as I could before this discography was a section in the Buggles article, I think this article's ready to be a Featured list. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 23:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Underneath-it-All

*In the lead:

- "known for it's" → its
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- "is most known for" → this is stated twice within the first paragraph. Perhaps change it up a bit?
  - Done one "most known for" changed to "has also been popular" Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- "#1 hit in the UK" → number-one hit in the [[UK Singles Chart|United Kingdom]]
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- "spawned" → produced
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The lead needs a good copy-edit to check for run-on sentences, grammar and repetitiveness
  - Does this just included the issues above, or some other stuff too?
- Don't over wiki-link countries. If possible, wiki-link them to the associated charts
  - Done
In "Albums" section:
- Format → Formats / Label → Labels
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Island Records → [[Island Records|Island]]
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In "Singles" section:
- No more than 10 charts should be included (see WP:DISCOGSTYLE)
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Again, they should be in alphabetical order
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- CAN → [[Music Canada|MC]]
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- ""—" denotes..." should stretch across the entire bottom of the table
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Did they release any music videos, EPs or collaborations?
- They did release music videos, but if I were to list the music videos, would I need a reliable source to verify that the music video exists, cause most of the videos I found were only on Youtube? No EPs were released by the group, but do you think we count Yes's album Drama as a collaboration with Buggles? Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Add alt text to the infobox → |Alt=
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
References need to be added to claims in the lead that aren't discussed elsewhere in the article (ex: first video to air on MTV)
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
References:
- Ref 4 → |language=French
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref 5 → |language=Japanese
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref 7 → |language=Dutch
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Refs 8 + 22 → add Rovi Corporation as publisher
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Zttaat.com is a fan site. Can any other reliable source be found?
  - Done Source replaced Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Check to ensure that all refs. used to source chart positions aren't fan sites and are approved as reliable (see WP:CHARTS)
  - Done No sources in this article are listed in WP:BADCHARTS. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- British Phonographic Industry → British Phonographic Industry (BPI)
  - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

– Underneath-it-All (talk) 17:17, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

- Place the charts in alphabetical order (home country first)
  - Done EditorEat ma talk page up, scotty! 18:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - The order should be: UK, CAN, FRA, etc. (see WP:Discogs) → for both album and single sections
      - Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 22:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

– Underneath-it-All (talk) 21:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"5,000,000 copies worldwide" → Please add a reliable source
- Thats if it was an additional claim and not mentioned in the discography out of the lead, but Done anyway. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 22:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"popular for it's music" → popular for its music
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 22:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Its singles "The Plastic Age", "Clean, Clean" and "Elstree" also saw performance on the UK, German and Dutch singles charts." → Its singles, "The Plastic Age", "Clean, Clean" and "Elstree", also charted in the UK, Germany and the Netherlands.
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 22:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"However, unlike Plastic, the album did not make any commercial performance in the UK" → However, unlike Plastic, the album did not chart in the UK.
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 22:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
# → number
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 22:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"It did, though, see chart performance in the United States" → It did, though, see chart in the United States
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 22:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

These are just some examples. I encourage you to ask another editor to help with a copy-edit.
- Like who? EditorEat ma talk page up, scotty! 22:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - The Rambling Man has thoroughly gone through my discographies during previous FLCs. You could also contact the editors at WP:PRG. – Underneath-it-All (talk) 00:52, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - I've asked The Rambling Man for review. Thanks. EditorEat ma talk page up, scotty! 01:00, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      - I think the lead looks better now. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 14:56, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        Done with copyedit. Should be clear and concise now. Not surprised its felt like a while since a comment has been made to this discussion. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 23:37, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Archive other online sources with webcitation.org. You can use this page (step-by-step instructions there) to manually archive all online references which will guarantee they remain accessible even if the site goes down. After this has been resolved, I would be happy to support! SoapFan12 10:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done Sources archived except for Sydney Morning Herald which had an error that prevented it from being archived. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 14:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Awesome! Good job on meeting every single FL criteria!

SoapFan12 16:01, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16:33, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now. I can see that you've exerted much effort in creating this, but there are still several issues.
~~Comments~~
"Accessed from (date)" – This wording doesn't really make sense: "Accessed on (date)" is the correct and more frequently used wording. I'd suggest using the cite web template; it's far easier to use than just writing all that down manually.
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Should Drama really be included here? It was only released under Yes' name, and just because Horn and Downes were involved in its recording doesn't automatically make it a Buggles album. Was this album released under the Buggles name?
- Done ~~No, so removed. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)~~[reply]
~~No point in a certifications column when none of their two albums have actually been certified.~~
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
~~For consistency, "CHE" should be replaced with "SWI"; Germany isn't written as "DE", after all.~~
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Music videos could have some director info, if available, and should be placed in table format. And those Dailymotion/YouTube sources aren't officially uploaded by the band or their label, and therefore aren't suitable for inclusion as references, let alone external links. Are there any DVD releases or periodical sources that include/mention these videos? I'm sure there's a far more reliable source to be found for the "Video Killed the Radio Star" video.
- Done Surprsingly, there weren't any Video albums by this group, and most of the videos are only rare youtube uploads. I've add a reliable source to indicate that videos for both "Plastic Age" and "Video", and the rest I've removed from this. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"made 2 studio albums, a collaborative album with Yes, 9 singles, and 6 music videos." – Since they're smaller than 10, those numbers should be in written form ("two", "nine", "six"). Once again, I question the inclusion of the Yes album here.
- Done ~~Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)~~[reply]
~~Don't think it's really suitable to include an image of the band where Downes isn't present. Perhaps this one could be used, and you could add a fair use rationale for its use on the discography page.~~
- ~~I don't think wikiproject discogs allows non-free images, and I've removed that image. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)~~[reply]
~~Prose needs cleaning up; perhaps the Guild of Copy Editors could help.~~
- ~~Did a bit of stuff to it, but I'll ask the Guild of Copy Editors to see what I could do. Thanks for the review!! Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)~~[reply]
  - I think its starting to look better, but I don't know if its enough for this to be a FL. I'll see if the Guild of Copy Editors will do anything. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 22:50, 22 July 2013 (UTC) Holiday56 (talk) 15:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Issues have been fixed, so these comments by Holiday56 are now irrelevant. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 14:55, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A copy edit was requested at the GOCE page, and I have done one. --Stfg (talk) 17:09, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

~~Obviously until the merge template issue has been resolved, this cannot be promoted.~~
- It was nominated for a merge shortly after I nominted this for a FLC. There have been two oppose votes so far, including one from me. EditorEat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - UPDATE: Merge discussion was closed as no consensus. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 21:00, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 15:45, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

*No need to link London.

- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Or other major geographical entities for that matter.
- Like what? Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Don't overlink terms such as studio album.
- Only one link I had to remove for studio album. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"than 5,000,000 copies" would prefer "five million"
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"by the SNEP and BPI of platinum" don't use abbreviations unknown to most without explaining them first.
- Done changed to whole names Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"by the Buggles" -> The Buggles.
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Released: 10 January 1980[14]" where was this first release?
- Done In Australia Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
""—" denotes releases that did not chart." we usually add "or was not released in that territory".
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please make sure the tables comply with MOS:DTT for row and col scopes.
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In the Singles table, the row spans make the table virtually undecipherable. I'd just keep it simple, apart from maybe rowspan the album col.
- Fixed it Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Check references to avoid misuse of hyphens (per WP:DASH) and to avoid SHOUTING.
- Done All hyphens have been changed to emdashes and shouting titles have been fixed as well. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Sydney Morning Herald " should be "The Sydney Morning Herald".
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 13:57, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think i fixed most of what you said, and have left comments on what I wasn't sure about. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 03:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Where are the singles that were released but failed to chart anywhere referenced? E.g. where is "Adventures in Modern Recording" referenced?
- Done Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 15:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No all albums have locations for their release dates.
- Locations added. Editor Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 15:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 13:05, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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