Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Costello Music/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 00:05, 28 March 2008.

Costello Music

The peer review wasn't getting any responses, and I can't see any glaring flaws with the article. -- Naerii · plz create stuff 16:28, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
- Current references number 1 and 2 need what the journal was and the author and the title of the article.
  - I don't have access to the articles :( They're refs for the reviews in the infobox. -- Naerii · plz create stuff 17:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- What is with reference number 9 that is a self-reference back to the article itself?
  - It's a link to a section further down with all the chart archives in it. I tried linking them individually in the table but it resulted in a big mess. -- Naerii · plz create stuff 17:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~http://www.urbanplanet.co.uk/showNews.aspx?loadid=00651 is lacking publisher information in the citation~~
  - (done) -- Naerii · plz create stuff 17:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I took out your (done) graphic, it's frowned on to use them at FAC as they bog the page down. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - Oh, sorry! -- Naerii · plz create stuff 17:46, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other links check out with the link tool fine. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Comment' I also note that the nominator first edited this article on the 13th of March of this year. Do the other usual editors agree that it should be at FAC? Ealdgyth - Talk 17:51, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please check my user page to see my previous accounts. -- Naerii · plz create stuff 17:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - First edited in July, and did this over the course of a month. -- Naerii · plz create stuff 17:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I have slapped myself with a wet noodle for not thinking to check your user page for previous usernames! Sorry! Ealdgyth - Talk 02:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
comment - all the sections are too shorts. MOJSKA 666 (msg) 07:56, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's not that much more information. The album wasn't popular enough to prompt any kind of in-depth commentary. -- Naerii · plz create stuff 14:25, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have any specific concerns or areas you would like to see expanded? -- Naerii · plz create stuff 14:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now.
- ~~Each quotation must be followed by a citation. This may mean that a citation is repeated in consecutive sentences.~~ (done) -- Naerii 17:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~Please eliminate jargon; most people will have no idea what "A&R" means; "record company talent scout" could be used instead.~~ (done) -- Naerii 17:26, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there information about why they recorded the album in LA instead of in the UK?
  - Hm, I had a poke around and found this [1] which says:
    - "A respect for rock history, and Jon's desire to achieve an old-fashioned, analogue sound, led to Costello Music being recorded with Beck's producer, Tony Hoffer, in Los Angeles's Sunset Sound, a studio once used by The Beach Boys and Bob Dylan."
  - Do you think that's relevant in the article? I'm not sure. -- Naerii 17:36, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I think that's pretty relevant. I don't think most bands would go to a different country to record their first album. Karanacs (talk) 17:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - Added, along with some other information I found. That section needs a copyedit more than ever now, however :'/ -- Naerii 18:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Did they write their own songs for this album?
  - Yeah they did, I'll add that now. -- Naerii 17:45, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the article needs a copyedit. The background section doesn't flow well at all, and the Release section at first makes it sound like the album was released only in the UK and US before going on to discuss other countries
  - Yeah, looking over it, I agree, but it's difficult to copyedit your own work - can't see the wood for the trees, as it were. -- Naerii 17:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Any idea how many copies they sold of the album in the UK? (the overseas amount is listed)
  - Added. -- Naerii 18:45, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~There are several positive reviews listed, with only one negative. Is that a fair representation of the criticism recieved?~~
  - Yeah, it is - if you check the reviews in the infobox most people were like "well, this isn't the best album ever, but it's pretty good". -- Naerii 17:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Citations 1 and 2 need the title of the review and hte name of the reviewer
  - I don't have access to those magazines :( They were already in the article when I started working on it. -- Naerii 17:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Unfortunately, the references need to be complete. You may have to replace them with something else if you don't have access to these, or contact the person who inserted the reference in the first place. Karanacs (talk) 17:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - Okay, I poked through and found the person who added People magazine and Q magazine. The editor who added the first is a registered account that is still active, so hopefully I'll get a response on that front. The editor who added the People review is an IP who has presumably been re-allocated as it hasn't edited since September, so I'm not sure what to do there. I'll have a poke around and see if I can find the review. -- Naerii 18:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        No luck, I'll remove them now. -- Naerii 03:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The article should never source itself.
  - It doesn't, but I'll fix that as it seems to be confusing people. -- Naerii 17:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Are urbanplanet and ilikemusic.com reliable sources?
  - I replaced the urbanplanet source with The Sunday Herald. The ilikemusic.com source seems uncontroversial as all it is doing is confirming that they toured Japan, the US and Europe. -- Naerii 04:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the only External link should be the Official website.
  - I was going by other featured articles, for example Doolittle (album). -- Naerii 17:32, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Karanacs (talk) 15:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for the criticism, this should keep me busy for a while :) -- Naerii 17:45, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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