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Héctor Pérez (footballer, born 1983)

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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. First, a WP:BEFORE found no significant and independent coverage, only databases, namesakes and WP:PASSING mentions such as this, this and the ABC piece already in the article (which mentions him in a match lineup). Second, the international appearance for Paraguay seems false. According to NFT, the only Pérez who played that match was Hernán Pérez, a much more merited player, and think about it: why would Héctor Pérez represent Paraguay in 2011 when he has not been verified as having a club that year, playing once in 2010? Geschichte (talk) 08:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Diego Gutiérrez (footballer, born 1993)

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Not possible to verify that this player played anywhere significant or meets WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Never played any games for Carolina Switchbacks. Geschichte (talk) 07:33, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Islom Kenjaboev

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. Tagged for this by others since September. Has no sources other than databases much less GNG sources. North8000 (talk) 22:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC. I could find no WP:RS.4meter4 (talk) 22:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete – Fails on WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 09:14, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Popularity of Premier League clubs

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Not a suitable topic for an article, it requires too much original research. Largely based on one study conducted by Twitter in 2015. Many of the other statements are unsourced or not supported by the source. Walsh90210 (talk) 21:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:NOTPROMO. Also an inappropriate WP:CFORK.4meter4 (talk) 23:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: if deleted merge into other articles please.

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Delete This isn't WP:NOTPROMO, but it is essentially a literature review. SportingFlyer T·C 05:50, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - per SportingFlyer. Giant Snowman 09:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brayan Velásquez

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There is nothing notable about playing 28 football games in the league of Honduras, and youth world cups do not grant notability either. This would need several good WP:SIGCOV pieces to even be considered as passing the notability bar. Geschichte (talk) 16:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Passes WP:SPORTSBASIC. Here are a few examples from the just the first couple pages in google news: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8] There are more...4meter4 (talk) 17:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 09:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The above sources are transfer stories/match reports/interviews which are routine coverage and do not pass GNG. Dougal18 (talk) 10:32, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kenichi Nozawa

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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG as only 19 of the games came in the J League system, namely Japan's third league. Japanese Wikipedia only has two sources, which are primary. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 16:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I notice there are 17 foreign language wiki pages. Do any of those have better sources than the English wiki page?4meter4 (talk) 17:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:45, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024–25 Montenegrin Women's League

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Contested draftification. Entirely unsourced, and a WP:BEFORE search turned up little. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Isolated editions of women's competitions rarely have WP:GNG on their own. Svartner (talk) 23:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per Svartner. The level of women's football is low, resulting in significant coverage. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FFK National Educational Camp

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Contested draftification. Not well sourced, and a WP:BEFORE search turned up little. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to FC Hajvalia – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 23:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 17:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ryuolivier Iwamoto

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Creator is globally locked. Not remotely indicating that WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT is met. Never played on a notable level. 0 J League games, 0 cup games. Played some school matches before retiring; why he retired is described by himself in the Nikkan Sports source in the Japanese Wikipedia. Bunshun described him starting to work in a bank, but he does not meet business bio inclusion criteria. Geschichte (talk) 14:32, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eleven Star FC

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Fails WP:GNG. Club only existed for one season and does not have WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 15:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of football clubs in Pakistan – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 23:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 17:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above.--Gul Butt (talk) 18:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Serie A broadcasters

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Notability of this topic has not changed since the last AFD 6-7 months ago. It still falls foul of WP:NOTTVGUIDE, and doesn't meet WP:LISTN or WP:GNG. I would support WP:SALTing this to prevent another re-creation. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nom. Not deemed to have standalone notability here (straight lift from itwiki which can set their own inclusion standards) and already deleted recently only to re-appear due to the page title being 'freed'. Crowsus (talk) 12:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I think it's important to note that it's not a direct recreation. There was a request for speedy deletion which was denied by Asilvering saying decline WP:G4, text greatly expanded from deleted version, no longer just a list, would need new discussion. Therefore the recreation isn't due to the page title being 'freed', but rather the creator would seem to think the expansion is enough for it to be notable enough to stand currently (also see what Claudio Fernag wrote on the talk page: This page should not be speedily deleted because the article is no substantially identical to the deleted version. The article is no longer just a list of broadcasters like when it was deleted, a context has been added that gives it notability, and verifiable and reliable sources were also included. The same happened with the article List of La Liga broadcasters, which at first was just a table with a list of broadcasters. It was nominated for deletion, more information was added to give it more notability and it was finally kept). --SuperJew (talk) 13:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Fair enough, but to be fair I couldn't see the original version for comparison. Crowsus (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and SALT I also agree with nomination, I feel this is not the right type of material we should be having on wikipedia. Govvy (talk) 17:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: but rename to "Serie A in media", "Serie A broadcasting", "Serie A on television" or similar, not opposed to Draftify until quality concerns are met. Strongly opposed to salting. The article is not in a great state and is clearly based on / inspired by the it:wiki article which is IMO in need of some editing to trim it down. Nonetheless, the notability is clearly there, and this should be the "expansion/detailed article" corresponding to the TV rights section of the Serie A article. There is repeated coverage of TV rights negotiations, impacts on viewers and commentary on current status of TV rights in the main Italian newspapers of record (e.g., 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...). There is more specialized work to analyze the landscape in niche publications / sources (which should naturally be reviewed to ensure they pass RS), such as 6, 7 (also independently published as a book, which may be better for referencing), 8, 9, 10 (appears to be a very good source, published by Taylor & Francis), 11... Research papers on this topic also exist, however I don't know if they meet our quality requirements: 12 and 13 published when Serie A TV rights were being renewed in 2005, 14, 15, 16... As well as theses (again, to check if RS is met): 17, 18. Shazback (talk) 17:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep am I missing something? This isn't the same article, and it seems to clearly pass WP:GNG with those Italian language articles above. We don't gatekeep if something is notable. SportingFlyer T·C 18:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also WP:NOTTVGUIDE clearly does not apply here, which is for upcoming shows on specific networks. SportingFlyer T·C 18:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They don't look like WP:SUSTAINED coverage to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are sources already in the article that span 20 years of coverage. SportingFlyer T·C 20:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What would be sufficient for WP:SUSTAINED? In 1995, half-page on page 4 of La Stampa regarding the TV rights sales of Serie A and B La Stampa 31 Oct. 1995 p.4, 2010 editorial article and analysis in La Repubblica on how TV rights sales affect the league to optimize commercial revenues La Repubblica 3 Mar. 2010 online, unknown if published... See the links above in addition... What type of sources would satisfy this aspect of the notability guideline? Shazback (talk) 20:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Courtesy ping to GiantSnowman, IgnatiusofLondon, TimothyBlue, SpacedFarmer as they participated in the previous AfD. Shazback (talk) 20:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - article appears impressive, but is very poorly written and sourcing is inadequate to show notability of this topic. Giant Snowman 21:59, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Poor writing should be improved, not deleted. Regarding the sourcing, can you expand as two editors above have explained in detail how there is enough sourcing. --SuperJew (talk) 07:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Serie A#Television rights – No need for a fork, as decided in similar AfD in the past. If there is relevant content, simply add it to this section. Svartner (talk) 23:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Although the article can be improved, it is notable enough as shown by editors above and shouldn't be deleted. Summarising and merging is a possible alternative, though it seems to me that there is enough content for a standalone page. --SuperJew (talk) 07:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dmitri Zakharov (footballer, born 2000)

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Fails WP:GNG (WP:NBASIC).--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 02:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Draftify - Draftify until better sources are found.
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Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV/WP:SPORTSBASIC. I found coverage on a Russian scientist and a Russian television personality/broadcaster of the same name. Admittedly I am not a Russian speaker so my BEFORE may not have turned up something pertinent to notability on this particular Dmitri Zakharov. If something changes, ping me. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify – if someone shows interest in improving. I'm not opposed to deleting it. Svartner (talk) 23:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Bazmandegan

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – I don't follow sports in the country, but agree with nomination. Corresponding article on Arabic Wikipedia is also a stub. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 23:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdulrahman Al-Rashidi (Qatari footballer)

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – I don't follow sports in the country, but agree with nomination. Corresponding article on Arabic Wikipedia is also a stub. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naaim Firdaus

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The subject has only played in two matches to date and this is just a stats stub as things stand with a very weak claim to notability. I found Borneo Post, Harian Metro and Makan Bola but all of these are trivial mentions. If nothing better is found, then this fails WP:SPORTBASIC pure and simple. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandru Tofan

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Delete - I have not been able to find (WP:BEFORE) independent sources of any kind to establish or support the notability of this soccer player with regard to WP:SPORTBASIC. There are plenty of database sources, but I understand that this is not sufficient to establish notability. SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - insufficient coverage exists to meet guidelines including WP:A and WP:V. C 679 06:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Farid Azmi

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Played a total of 11 minutes in Malaysia's top tier football league. BEFORE search shows nothing. Does not pass WP:GNG. Kline • talk • contribs 01:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 04:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete, does not present a credible claim to significance or notability. Geschichte (talk) 10:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Doesn't pass any notability guidelines. Mekomo (talk) 10:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zazrir Naim

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Played a total of 103 minutes in the top tier of Malaysia football over 3 years. A check for sources found 2 articles total, only mentioning him in passing mention. Does not pass WP:GNG. Kline • talk • contribs 00:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 04:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Doesn't pass WP:SPORTSBASIC or WP:GNG. Mekomo (talk) 10:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Thomas (footballer)

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 22:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The article already had two things going for it, both a reasonable claim to notability, and sources that can well be considered sigcov (namely Stuff). The nomination therefore falls flat in failing to argue why "Article fails WP:GNG". In addition, from a summary search I found [9] [10]. In total, I believe it passes the sigcov bar Geschichte (talk) 08:08, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep, barely passes SIGCOV in my opinion. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 11:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Enough sources provided to pass WP:SIGCOV.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 13:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 21:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mads Hamberg Andersen

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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Not even coverage in databases that could point to how he would be notable. Geschichte (talk) 06:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Johnson (soccer)

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Similar case to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lecomte (archer). Placements at the early Olympics depended on circumstance, it was not the serious global competition we see today. Specifically, soccer at the 1904 Olympics took place between three random clubs. When not even his name is known, the fact that he won a medal matters little. At best, redirect to either football or the US at the 1904 Summer Olympics. Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to e.g. Football at the 1904 Summer Olympics#Medalists or List of 1904 Summer Olympics medal winners#Football. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of 1904 Summer Olympics medal winners#Football: Fails WP:GNG. Demt1298 (talk) 14:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per the previous two users. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 19:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. If by some staggering chance it is kept, the title needs changing as it could refer to any one of probably dozens of professionals past and present -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – There isn't even enough information to support the article itself, listing for the 1904 Summer Olympics squads is more than enough. Svartner (talk) 02:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Illya Tsaryuk

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Played half a game of football with no significant coverage cited here nor on Ukrainian Wikipedia (although the latter has more content, the sources are all non-independent or database sources). My own searches yielded Champion and UA Football, neither of which are anywhere near enough for even WP:SPORTBASIC #5, a lower bar than WP:GNG. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete. If this isn't a failure to "make any credible claim of significance or importance", nothing is. Geschichte (talk) 22:32, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is not A7 eligible. Giant Snowman 18:55, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Polideportivo Municipal de Manises

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Fails WP:GNG, Wikipedia is not a list of every structure to have ever existed. Stadiums are split off from clubs/cities when they are subjects of discussion as primary theme. "Stadium" with 1,000 capacity in town of 30,000; many American high schools probably have bigger facilities. Team has played one season ever in a national (regionally divided) league, in 1956-57. Not sure whether there is anything at all to salvage and whether that goes to the town or the team. Not even the biggest enthusiast of stadiums in Spain has written about this [11] Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Manises as possible search term. Giant Snowman 18:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – Per above. Svartner (talk) 02:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mana Nakao

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Playing 1 cup game for a J League team is a weak claim to notability. Sources in ja:wiki are either primary or match reports, none are in-depth. As such he fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Geschichte (talk) 12:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ramón Costa (footballer, born 1992)

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No significant coverage found during a WP:BEFORE. He played between 2–8 games for a number of clubs, in Brazilian's fourth, Mexico's second and Malaysia's league among others. The indication of notability is therefore very thin to start with. Geschichte (talk) 21:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. The claim he played for Italian club Juventus is not verified, Soccerway suggests a Brazilian club of the same name. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not to be confused, there is a team in São Paulo called CA Juventus. He played for that club, not for Juventus FC. Svartner (talk) 03:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – He played most of his career in teams from Rio de Janeiro state levels, but appears on a lot of local news portals due to spells in Americano and Belford Roxo: [12], [13], [14], [15], [16]. Svartner (talk) 03:38, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From what I understand, those sources are just transfer announcements. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sources also provide satisfactory coverage of the player's career. What is most questionable in this case is the athlete's career tier level, but WP:SIGCOV exists. Svartner (talk) 02:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Article about a semi-pro footballer whose claim to fame is scoring a goal in the first leg of the 2015 Taça Corcovado (as his club, Americano, would go on to win the second half of the third-tier Rio de Janeiro state competition). The articles above include a recap of that match that includes an interview with Ramón, and several articles about him re-signing with Americano years later (which reference that same goal). He's had a journeymen career at semi-pro level, and I can't find any SIRS coverage that would indicate our notability guideline is met. Jogurney (talk) 17:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I made some improvements to the article, including new sources. I understand he had a modest career and the discussion is valid, but I'm based on this precedent. Svartner (talk) 03:38, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haruki Umemura

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Deleted before. No trace of notability, played 1 cup game and not in any of the J Leagues, creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 20:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and SALT - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Umemura was deemed non-notable back in the first AfD ten years ago. He must meet GNG only in order for this article to be kept, as NFOOTBALL no longer exists. Even while searching for his name in Japanese, I didn't find any significant coverage. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:34, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - So, Umemura didn’t play a lot of soccer due to some serious injuries, but there is an absolute ton of extensive independent coverage both of the injuries cutting his career short, but also of his after football career as the assistant abbot of a Buddhist temple belonging to his wife’s family. I’ve gone ahead and edited the article with all the extra information, sources and line citations. It’s all in Japanese (naturally), but you should be able to use google translate to check it if you are so inclined. I only ended up using like 6-7 of the articles, but there are at least another dozen or so readily apparent via a basic google search of his name (in kanji), and I can only guess many more if I used more precise search terms. With all these in-depth and independent sources, there is no way that this article does not meet general notability, and since, as @Clariniie points out, there is no seperate NFOOTBALL, this is as clear a keep as I’ve come across in a while. Ping to @GiantSnowman as requested. Absurdum4242 (talk) 17:51, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment To add, I can’t find evidence of a prior AfD (I’m guessing just because I don’t know where to look, having only been here 3 months still), but if it was 10 years ago that would have been just after that first injury, so it makes sense it failed because at that stage he’d still played no professional games yet, and had not transformed himself into a monk, so coverage would have been minimum simple due to “too soon”. Absurdum4242 (talk) 17:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haruki Umemura, it's literally linked in the top corner. Please summarise the sources for us. Giant Snowman 18:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, nice, can’t believe I didn’t look there.

They’re all in the article now, I added them all as sources / line citations… just click and translate via google translate. Some shorter articles, but some long articles too, a couple in the 3-5 page range. Here’s the kanji for his name though 梅村晴貴 - cut and past that into google and you’ll get the full basic search for his name.

It’s late here and I need to sleep, but if you still really need me to go through them for you rather than looking, I’ll have time later tomorrow.

Have a great day over there. Absurdum4242 (talk) 18:56, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so just the basics since I’m a bit busy this afternoon, but here’s that summary. Source order is as listed on the article.

Sources 2 and 4 - different pages from a 3 page article in a sports magazine on Umemura’s youth career, move to the professionals, and the injury that derailed his career.

Source 3 - single page article in the Shizuoka Shinbun Newspaper talking about Umemura’s participation in the SBS Cup International Youth Soccer tournament during his youth career.

Source 5 - short announcement, in an online soccer site, published by Kodansha, Japan’s largest publisher, announcing his professional signing.

Source 6 - short announcement, in same online site as source 5, announcing his injury and upcoming surgery.

Source 8 - 4 page article in a sports magazine talking about Umemura’s move from professional player, to team staff, to priest, due to the request from his wife’s family to take over their temple, and about his new role in that temple.

Source 9 - 1 page article in same online site as 5 and 6, talking about transition from player, to team staff, and then his two and a half years of training to gain his priest’s license. Also an announcement that he will be involved in a 15th anniversary match for the Toyama team, that I haven’t tracked down yet, as this article talks about it in the future tense.

Hope that helps. Absurdum4242 (talk) 04:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tarnobrzeg Municipal Stadium

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Creator claims such small stadiums are inherently notable; I don't think that's true at all. Article was moved back into draft space by User:Mccapra, and creator moved it back to main space twice. Their argument? "The subject is encyclopedic, the article is well-sourced, and there is nothing in it beyond what is present in the Polish-language article." But the first thing is untrue and certainly questionable, the second is ridiculous (the link is to a user-generated database of stadiums), and the first is irrelevant on the English wiki. Drmies (talk) 14:55, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am in favor of keeping the article. Tarnobrzeg Municipal Stadium may not stand out significantly from other stadiums, but it represents a typical example of local sports infrastructure, much like other stadiums already included in the encyclopedia. To provide context, I reviewed two randomly selected stadiums—Stjörnuvöllur and Akranesvöllur—and found them similarly modest in scale. Deleting Tarnobrzeg Municipal Stadium based on the argument presented here could set a precedent for removing numerous comparable entries, which doesn’t align with our established approach to such topics. While I understand the concerns raised, I believe the article is well-sourced and falls within the scope of what we consider encyclopedic. Paradygmaty (talk) 15:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep stadiums are generally notable. The article only has one source, though, that doesn't help with GNG, so we have to do a source search, not a blanket AfD. And what we see is that the stadium has been covered in secondary sources: [17] [18] (looks like the same story) [19] [20] (about hooligans who vandalized it.) Now those may not be a clear GNG pass, but they are all from the past month. It should be relatively easy to write a decent little article about this. SportingFlyer T·C 16:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again we're missing the point here - since the article was sent to AfD, there's been some expansion with some sources which I think are fine (some don't count like transfermarkt), but more importantly there's at least one site - stadiony.pl - which includes news about the stadium back to 2009, and while some of it is self published others appear to be copies of articles published about the stadium. Polish football is generally well documented and a search of "Stadion Siarki Tarnobrzeg" brings up even more material which clearly clears GNG. There's news going back to 2013 for instance [21]. SportingFlyer T·C 07:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~*Delete~~ all sports stadiums are not notable, and small local stadiums generally aren’t. There is nothing architecturally, historically or culturally distinctive about this one as far as I can see. Most towns have a stadium like this, just like they have a police station and a post office. Mccapra (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The test isn't about whether they are "architecturally, historically or culturally distinctive." The test is whether they've been covered in secondary sources, and this one clearly has. SportingFlyer T·C 17:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with SportingFlyer – notability is based on coverage in reliable secondary sources, not just architectural or cultural significance. I’ve also expanded the article to provide more context, which supports its notability. Paradygmaty (talk) 17:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, or maybe better merge into Siarka Tarnobrzeg. Per WP:NSTADIUM, stadiums are not generally notable and has to meet WP:GNG criteria. WP:GNG says that "significant coverage is not a guarantee that a subject merits its own article". Currently used sources do not demonstrate notability, and the vandalism articles are not even "significant coverage". The vandalism is not a historical event and Wikipedia is not a newspaper to collect such events of local importance. So I suggest deleting this paragraph and moving the rest to the club as a section, which should satisfy everyone involved. FromCzech (talk) 10:01, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Siarka Tarnobrzeg as possible search term. Giant Snowman 10:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I maintain my stance for KEEP, especially since I have updated the article to include the fact that this stadium hosted Siarka Tarnobrzeg during their three seasons in the top Polish league. This clearly indicates that it is not just an insignificant stadium. Surely, we wouldn't delete the stadium of an Ekstraklasa club – following that logic, we should also consider removing Františka Kloze Stadium (in Czechia), which is also "just a building." I kindly ask you to reconsider your position. Paradygmaty (talk) 16:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as suggested above. Mccapra (talk) 06:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You cannot vote twice. Paradygmaty (talk) 07:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Juan Alberto Ramírez

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Even when searching in conjunction with his former clubs, I was unable to obtain any significant coverage towards WP:SPORTBASIC. His career took place largely in the second tier of Mexico and was painfully brief. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Playing in lower clubs is still a weak claim to notability. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, Fails WP:GNG -Samoht27 (talk) 17:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Luis Cámara

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Cámara has/had a very brief career but my own searches failed to yield any significant coverage, so potentially fails WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:CSD#A7, no credible claim to significance or notability. Geschichte (talk) 14:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - insufficient attempt to establish notability. Lack of significant coverage as noted by OP. C 679 15:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

José de Jesús López

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Despite a brief career in the second tier of Mexico, I can't find any evidence of significant coverage, even when searching in conjunction with the club that he played for. No evidence of WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Playing in lower clubs is still a weak claim to notability. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michal Kamenčík

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His playing career is/was mostly convinced to lower leagues and lasts/lasted a total of 920 minutes so far. I have searched his name in conjunction with *any club he has played for* and "site:.sk", but couldn't find any WP:SIRS. All I found are passing mentions in match reports (e.g. Sport Aktuality, SME, Teraz) and squad list U15 call-up as well as paywalled rumor. Not to be confused with the more notable Michael Krmenčík, who was also born in 1993 but has a different nationality. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:48, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:SPORTCRIT or WP:FOOTYN. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:56, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aleksandar Mihaylov

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Mihailov played a mere few seconds in the league and 6 minutes in the cup prior to disappearing. The best sources found are Novsport, Varna 24 and Varna Utre, none of which are even close to showing WP:SPORTBASIC #5. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:07, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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One appearance nearly a decade ago does not notability make. Delete. CoconutOctopus talk 13:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete per WP:CSD#A7, makes no credible claim to notability or significance. Geschichte (talk) 13:42, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not eligible for A7. Giant Snowman 08:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It should be post 2022. The link between being a substitute in 1-2 games and notability has been completely severed. Geschichte (talk) 10:25, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:51, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Just playing a few minutes is still a weak claim to notability. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:SPORTCRIT or WP:FOOTYN. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:54, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Karen Madoyan

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Played 1 game in the league and 1 game in the cup prior to disappearing. The article also alleges that he played for Armenia U17 at some point. My own searches yielded Cherno More and Varna Utre, neither of which show enough depth for WP:SPORTBASIC #5. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:59, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not notable. CoconutOctopus talk 13:28, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete per WP:CSD#A7, makes no credible claim to notability or significance. Geschichte (talk) 13:42, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:SPORTCRIT or WP:FOOTYN. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Major Indoor Soccer League (1978–1992) broadcasters

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I'm not finding coverage of the broadcasters of this league as a grouping from secondary sources to meet the WP:NLIST. Let'srun (talk) 02:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per my comments at last AFD (which I started!). Giant Snowman 08:47, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approximately 52 more sources (so it went from having 135 to now having 187 different references) have been added through the aid of the Google News Archive. BornonJune8 (talk 6:44, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Instead of deletion, why can't merging it with the Major Indoor Soccer League (1978–1992) on television be considered as an alternative option to having an stand-alone article for the list of MISL broadcasters? The MISL on TV article though, only covers national broadcasters and not local like in the former. BornonJune8 (talk 10:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Courtesy ping to participants in Wikipedia: Articles for deletion/List of Major Indoor Soccer League (1978–1992) broadcasters (not including those that have already participated above): Seany91, SportingFlyer, Davidstewartharvey, ChrisTheDude. Shazback (talk) 20:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Looking at the article's sources, they seem to be WP:ROUTINE mentions that something happened (e.g., YouTube videos which are just copies of the broadcast of a game, news articles reporting the match's results and participants), making this seem like citation overkill. What are the best sources which establish notability of this list as per WP:NLIST? In particular for the announcers. Shazback (talk) 21:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- My quick assessment of the first 10 sources for information:

**Source assessment table: prepared by User:Shazback**
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
1984 MISL Championship Game 5 Baltimore Blast vs St. Louis Steamers June 8, 1984 on YouTube	~ Uploaded by the club	~ User-generated content / YouTube	Rebroadcast of a game / primary source	✘ No
Woolf, Lee (February 28, 1984). "Regional Stations Sack Usfl Opener. - Page 4". The Free Lance-Star. Retrieved November 17, 2024.			Routine. Full text of the mention: "Baltimore's WJZ will continue to show USFL games each Sunday through the playoffs with one exception, this Sunday afternoon when the football game will be pre-empted for a Baltimore Blast indoor soccer match."	✘ No
MISL Baltimore Blast @ New York Arrows March 27, 1981 on YouTube	~ Uploaded by the club	~ User-generated content / YouTube	Rebroadcast of a game / primary source	✘ No
"Observer-Reporter - Page 17". Observer-Reporter. May 24, 1984. Retrieved November 17, 2024.			Routine. Full text of the mention: "Along with Ruan on nationally televised game will be Al Trautwig, the Blast's play-by-play announcer on WJZ and also the former USA Cable Network play-by-play announcer on MISL broadcasts, and Kyle Rote Jr., an ex-Dallas Tornado player in the North American Soccer League."	✘ No
MISL Buffalo Stallions at St Louis Steamers 2-27-81 on YouTube	? Pseudonymous YouTube uploader	~ User-generated content / YouTube	Rebroadcast of a game / primary source	✘ No
MISL Philly Fever at Buffalo Stallions 12-26-81 on YouTube	? Wrong YouTube link?	? Wrong YouTube link?	Wrong YouTube link? Not relevant to the article	✘ No
"LANCERS MOURN THE PASSING OF LEGENDARY ANNOUNCER WAYNE FULLER". Rochester Lancers. 12 February 2018.	~ Club's website	~ Club's website, appears to be republishing a template biography (same text as next source)	No commentary on broadcasters / announcers as a set. Minor routine mention that Fuller announced games for the Lancers	✘ No
"A SOCCER VOICE IS SILENCED: Wayne Fuller, voice of original Lancers, passes away". Front Row Soccer. February 9, 2018.	Blog / personal website	~ Blog / personal website, appears to be republishing a template biography (same text as previous source)	No commentary on broadcasters / announcers as a set. Minor routine mention that Fuller announced games for the Lancers	✘ No
"March 1987 Sting "Bee Lines"" (PDF). Fun While It Lasted.	~ Club's magazine	~ Club's magazine	Non-searchable PDF, no page referenced - best I can find is the following on page 13, which appears fully routine. Full text: "Next Televised Game. Follow the Sting onSportsVision and WPWR-TV CH. 50 with Howard Balson and David Huson. Watch the Skint live from Minnesota, April 7, 7:30 p.m. on WPWR-TV CH. 50."	✘ No
"Movies Supplant Cable Sports. - Page 22". The Vindicator. July 11, 1986. Retrieved November 11, 2024.			Article that could be relevant in the main article (or MISL on TV) showing commentary that MISL was interesting for cable sports channels that were looking to fill air-time. However, only extremely routine mention of one broadcaster for one channel, not significant coverage of this article's topic.	✘ No
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Merge I think we've deleted broadcaster articles since the last AfD, there's a good merge target, and we could retain relevant information there. SportingFlyer T·C 22:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to see if the proposed Merge target is Major Indoor Soccer League (1978–1992) on television. It would be nice to see what Let'srun and Giant Snowman think about this suggestion.
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Merge to Major Indoor Soccer League (1978–1992) on television per WP:ATD.4meter4 (talk) 03:16, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elephant football

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Fails WP:GNG. No secondary sources that shows WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 20:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There appears to be some coverage of the topic of elephants playing football, e.g. Newsweek, Reuters, The Independent, AS, News9, as well as some books, e.g. [22] & [23]. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Elephants are sadly abused in many ways, but the fact that this happens doesn't make it a specific notable topic. If anything there can be a sentence at Elephant polo saying they are forced to play other sports, but these sources don't justify an article here. Reywas92^Talk 21:49, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep or perhaps find a suitable WP:ATD such as a merge to Captive elephants. There is coverage on this (both as an event and people protesting it) in secondary sources: [24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30] Best.4meter4 (talk) 02:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Captive elephants as above. Giant Snowman 08:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It makes no sense to redirect to captive elephants. If such logic is applied all sports involing animals will be affected. There is no harm in keeping and incubating the article. Such sports is basically for tourism activities rather than for hard core sport activity. Also as 4meter4 pointed out, there is WP:SIGCOV as well. nirmal (talk) 04:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
KeepAs per 4meter4 and BeanieFan11 there is WP:SIGCOV for this.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per all of the sources, identified by 4meter4. The subject has enough wp:sigcov for a standalone. Kaizenify (talk) 09:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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PS Klabat Jaya Sakti

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Fails WP:GNG. No evidence of secondary coverage that shows WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 16:38, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep I do see Indonesian articles such as [31] [32] [33] which demonstrate the club is covered in the media on a consistent basis, but I'm struggling with the language barrier. SportingFlyer T·C 18:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per sources above which (appear to) show notability. Giant Snowman 08:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The sources in the article and this AfD only cover the game results, not the subject itself. As a team playing in the lowest division of football in Indonesia, its notability is limited to its region and it's relatively unknown on a national level. IMO, it doesn't meet the GNG. Ckfasdf (talk) 09:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that according to WP:SPORTCRIT; Local sources must be independent of the subject, and must provide reports beyond routine game coverage. None of sources in the article and this AfD provide reports beyond routine coverage, such as information about the team itself. Ckfasdf (talk) 10:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – The sources presented are sufficient for WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:43, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The sources appear to meet the required standard of notability and provide credible and sufficient evidence Bernie Clay Bear (talk) 01:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per WP:SPORTCRIT, "Local sources must be independent of the subject, and must provide reports beyond routine game coverage." None of the sources above or in general provide significant coverage of the club itself beyond routine game coverage. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Those sources are, indeed, routine game coverage - and they're the best of what's out there, TBH. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only one of the sources cited in the article actually works, and it's WP:ROUTINE. Unfortunately, so are the other sources presented by SportingFlyer. There's not enough WP:SIGCOV to support an article at this time.--DesiMoore (talk) 19:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those aren't the only sources though - a WP:BEFORE search is tricky because there's a few names this club is called, but there's definitely consistent online coverage from at least 2022. SportingFlyer T·C 22:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Latham

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His soccer career was not notable at all, having only played 172 minutes in Revolution, as well as a friendly goal that can't be the basis of a Wikipedia article. I don't think the local news source cuts it GNG-wise, as it is an everyday piece of coverage with the majority being a Q&A interview. It would take much more making this meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Geschichte (talk) 07:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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'Redirect to All-time New England Revolution roster as possible search term. Giant Snowman 10:59, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – Per above. Svartner (talk) 12:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. All-time New England Revolution roster would not be an appropriate target article as it has been PROD'd.
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It has been replaced by List of New England Revolution players, so redirect there instead. Giant Snowman 21:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]