User talk:Zoe/September 3 2006

To Be Frank--Go F%!? Yourself

This seems pretty self-explanatory to me, you duplicitous little turd. I may leave Wikipedia after this little episode. I can see that you have ruined this site for a number of users with your over-zealous execution (fitting word) of Wikipedia regulations. You have truly gone below and beyond the call of my fucking duty.

Lilyana 21:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Lilyana

Vandalism?????

I have eddited no pages. I dont know what you are talking about I'm sorry so fuck you

I am the copy write holder

For your information I am the copywrite holder for CHOSA. But I will leave the artical as minimal as possible.

JP cartoon "victims"

Since you've warned to block me indefinitely should I recreate the page in any fashion, I'd like to ask you, whether you'd agree if I'd follow Joes advice and use his title for my page. If you wish, I'll blank out the names of the admins as well. Can you live with that? Raphael1 00:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Please let me explain, why I feel the need to make this list: This list would point out the results, when administrators enforce Februarys poll results by blocking editors who ignore those polls. I don't like those consequences, and they are actually in conflict with WP:NBD

In order to reach the best possible decisions, we hold it important to listen carefully to each other's arguments, and to try to find mutually acceptable solutions in conflicts. Polls are the exception and not the rule, and where they do exist they are not binding.

and WP:CON

Precise numbers for "supermajority" are hard to establish, and Wikipedia is not a majoritarian democracy, so simple vote-counting should never be the key part of the interpretation of a debate. When supermajority voting is used, it should be seen as a process of 'testing' for consensus, rather than reaching consensus. The stated outcome is the best judgment of the facilitator, often an admin. If there is strong disagreement with the outcome from the Wikipedia community, it is clear that consensus has not been reached.

Do you have any suggestion for an inoffensive title for the list? Raphael1 02:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

May I regard your silence as consent? How about the title "Consequences of enforcing Februarys poll results"? Raphael1 12:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

usernameblock

Hi Zoe, how do I report a possible {{usernameblock} candidate? It's User:Ricardo Lagos (former Chilean president). He has been editing Ricardo Lagos, engaged on vandalism and personal attacks agaist another user who warned him. Regards, E Asterion ^{u talking to me?} 00:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Ricardo Lagos has been repeatedly vandalizing, and when I reverted his massive vandalism, he tried to add it to BJAODN. If he's up to it again, it's time for him to be blocked. User:Zoe|^(talk) 01:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. An admin blocked him for now. I found him funnily disturbing. There are some weird people out there...E Asterion ^{u talking to me?} 08:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for the trust that you had in me when you supported my Request for Adminship. The nomination ended successfully and I am actually overwhelmed by the support that I received. Thanks again! -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 07:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

3 rv rule redirect.

Sorry. I just thought it would be easier to go to this page that way. If it is causing problems or i have done something wrong, please delete it. I was just trying to find the three revert rule page as a person has been vandalising the autism and aspergers pages, amongst others. Actually can you do anything about them. They are from IP 70.142.153.51 Simply south 20:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I will try WP:3RR in future. Thanks for the shortcut. I must remember that when creating redirects, not to do them to pages with Wikipedia at the start or other such pages. Simply south 21:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Your proposed deletion of my first entry to Wikipedia :The res3ia Enigma

Hi there

Could you enlighten me as to what exactly is wrong with my entry. Having used Wikipedia for some time, I thought I would make a contribution of my own, only to discover that you had recommended it for deletion within moments.

science_watch

Your article Porto-Novo

Hi, I have recieved an email from a reader about the article Porto-Novo. He noticed that article looks a lot like this article. Even more when your compare it with the the first version of the Wikipedia version. According that website the text of Porto-Novo comes from the "The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia". You seem to be creator of that article. Do you know how this can be? Greetings, --Walter 22:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I've never heard of allrefer.com, so I know I didn't copy it from there. This article was created in my earliest days on Wikipedia, but I really do not remember where the informatin came from. I'm sure I got it from several different online sites, the Columbia Encyclopedia may have been one of them, but I don't think I would have copied it verbatim. I honestly do not remember my source. Do you want to rewrite it? Or else I can, if you think it needs to be. User:Zoe|^(talk) 20:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

When you compare the first version of Porto-Novo with the version of Porto-Novo from the Columbia Encyclopedia is clear the are almost the same. Only the Wikipedia-version is a redused version.

I think tr best way to resolve this if you would make a new article from scrach. Posibly a stub. And when that is done delete the article and directly restore it again with only the last edits of the history. Problem gone. --Walter 22:38, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Would this be a copyright problem concerning the other edits that have been done since my first version? User:Zoe|^(talk) 22:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

The original version of the article is copyrighted by the Columbia Encyclopedia. All versions after that from the same source are also illegal. The current article is using a free licence while it has not right to be under the GNU/FDL. If you prefer I can use the VFD-procedure. I have contacted you directly to avoid that so it can be arranged more discretely. --Walter 21:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not trying to duck any responsibility, I just wanted to make sure that there would be no problems in doing as you suggest. I will take care of it, I just have to do some research. But as long as there are no copyright issues involved in deleting it and starting fresh, I will do so. User:Zoe|^(talk) 21:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Could you take a look at User:Zoe/Porto-Novo and let me know what you think? User:Zoe|^(talk) 02:46, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

The EN wikipedia is not my home-wiki. I can not guaranty that if you do that you do not get complaints/problems about it. If you are not sure you should use the VFD-procedure or whatever procedure there is to deal with copyright problems.

The new version looks very good. --Walter 08:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion_review#User:Raphael1/Wikiethics

Since you previously showed interest in the former proposed policy Wikiethics, I'd like to inform you about this deletion review. Raphael1 15:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

mayo, deletion

riiiiight. sorry, now i get it. i'll come back when america knows who i am.

why can't i make a page about myself or people i know if its true?

Because we don't know if it's true. Please read WP:OR. Thanks for trying to help. --mboverload@ 23:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

AlternC and ASM.....and cPanel and Plesk

I'm a student at Umass Lowell, and I work for The Community Software Lab-->CSL I'm unsure as to why you deleted my pages for AlternC and ASM on account of advertising... They are extensions of Control panel(Web hosting) please tell me why the content is wrong, and the difference between my pages and cPanel and Plesk thank you.

Manny 03:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Please Advise

[1]Haizum 04:02, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Wheel War

You do realize a wheel war requires more than one action? The fact is the block was ridiculous. If I went around blocking everyone for a week every time they told me I was stupid or abusive or didn't deserve to be an admin because I blocked over an edit war, there would be hundereds of people blocked each week in that manner. He was asked several times to reduce the block and after 2 days, decided another 8 would be enough. 10 days for what? Please review the situation before jumping on someone for a non-existant wheel war. Shell ^babelfish 12:21, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Hawthorne Caballeros Drum and Bugle Corps

Why would you have deleted this page? It was empty but at least it was a start. --JimBurnell 20:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm still a newbie for Wikipedia, so I'm not sure whether our conversation should be on your talk page or on mine. In any case, yes, the content that you mentioned was vandalism, but not grounds for deleting the entire article. It was empty but it was a framework to be filled in later at least. Is there a way to resurrect it? --JimBurnell 20:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration re: Raphael1

Hello Zoe, you may want to add yourself to this request for arbitration begun by User:Cyde after User:Raphael1 recreated his infamous list (and left Cyde and Pegasus1138's names in a historical version). Netscott 02:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Zoe, it's good to see your participation on this ArbCom case. One thing that I'm not seeing in the arbitration statements is a link to the WP:ANI discussion concerning User:Raphael1's block for spamming and activities concerning the deletion of his original "hit" list. You might want to add that and "exhausting the community's patience" to your statement just for clarity's sake. Cheers. Netscott 17:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

You issued me a temporary block? You've never blocked me before our unfortunate missunderstanding regarding the title of my user page. See [2] Raphael1 17:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

User:NoseNuggets

I was typing a message but got conflicted by a pagemove vandal. Anyhow, the above user has again been blocked for disruption to current sports events. Do you believe arbitration should be filed? RFC's not produced any results, as I'm sure you know. NSLE _(T+C) at 08:17 UTC (2006-06-08)

Should we file it now, or give him one last chance to change his ways after his most recent block? NSLE _(T+C) at 10:39 UTC (2006-06-09)

Just as you typed that, I blocked him a further 48 hours for resuming his bad habits. ;) NSLE _(T+C) at 16:15 UTC (2006-06-09)

Sigh... quote an email he sent me:

Go take a look at the past sports pages (since February) and see that recaps are italicized. If you don't like it, shove it up your mothrerfucking ass.

NSLE _(T+C) at 05:22 UTC (2006-06-10)

Apologies for insinuating myself into this discussion. An RfAR might be necessary, inasmuch as NN, concomitant to his valuable edits, disrupts certain sports-related pages significantly; I'm honestly not certain that we can characterize the net effect of his contributions as constructive. I must say that I'm genuinely surprised at the incivility of his reply to NSLE; I always thought that his ostensible intransigence stemmed primarily from ignorance of policy and an inability properly to understand the entreaties others made to him on his talk page and at the RfC, but it seems that he well understands that many of his edits are unencyclopedic and simply doesn't care. His unwillingness to collaborate or to listen to the suggestions of others is most unfortunate and leads one to wonder whether he properly appreciates the nature of the project. Joe 05:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Arbcom discussion

Hi Zoe. It seems others are commenting too. There doesn't seem to be a formal talk page related to the case yet; could you please point me to the rules about this? — JEREMY 02:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I see; fair enough. Given there's nowhere else for me to clarify the situation re. the GA rules, however, I'll leave the comment as is and hope the clerks refactor it appropriately. — JEREMY 02:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Vlad III Dracula

It was the real person. The Wookieepedian 18:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

• I haven't actually seen the episode in question, as it isn't currently available on home video, but the IMDb lists the real person. I'm not sure how this is either, but he apparently appears in an episode entitled "Transylvania, January 1918". The Wookieepedian 18:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Fir0002's sig

Just to let you know he did remove the external link as soon as I pointed it out at the start of the RFA (see User_talk:Fir0002#Questions). Petros471 21:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Johnleemk | Talk 11:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Same here... what vandalism?

Hello, My ISP switched my ip 2-3 days ago.... (stupid dynamic ip...) oh well, when did this incident happen? Was it an anonymous edit? Note: I haven't "logged" on to wikipedia for several months... heres your message:

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:59, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Cheers, Ryan

Article Un-redirect

If an article went on Afd and consensus was to redirect to another article, what's the best place to go for a user afterwards to get the page reinstated? For deleted pages WP:DRV would be the right place, but since the page wasn't actually deleted I'm not sure what the correct procedure is. -- Hirudo 15:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I've given my thoughts on the same question here. I'd be interested in seeing Zoe's take on it too, so Zoe may or may not want to read what I said first... :) ++Lar: t/c 15:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Can you tell me what article you're talking about? I would have to know the history of the AfD discussion and see what sort of content you plan on re-adding to remove the redirect. User:Zoe|(talk) 15:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

See Lar's link above for my reply to him with the details. (Also, please reply either on his page or here instead of on my page. I hate split discussions. Thanks) -- Hirudo 15:41, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any reply on Lar's page. User:Zoe|^(talk) 15:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

My bad. Didn't notice I got an edit conflict when I tried to submit it. Should be there now -- Hirudo 15:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Lyrics

Oh, sorry. I just thought that was the whole point of the article. Sorry. But, Since they are copyrighted why do the other Sonic The Hedgehog game songs have lyrics?

These song pages have lyrics

Live And Learn

Open Your Heart (Sonic Adventure)

Nordwave should be included in Winkepedia

Nordwave should be included in Winkepedia.I was adding Nordwave to the list of groups that would fall into that category.I do agree with you assesment of th Protocols page.Next time I will include refernces to any changes I make.

help me

i , paydenmac34, would like to delete the riot bros. and payden durham pages, can you delete it for me.

 p.s. i am payden durham, and am deeply sorry!!!!!!!!1

Message

Thanks, I'm actually pretty new to this Wikipedia stuff, so thank your for helping me out.

Messages

Ok thanks. UnDeRsCoRe 20:59, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Raphael1 RFAR

Just so you know, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1 is going to be entering the voting stage soon. Since you are listed as an involved party you most likely will want to add your statement to the evidence page before the evidence period ends. --Cyde↔Weys 17:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Time is running out ... Cyde↔Weys 16:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of Don Voss

You deleted "Don Voss" because there are "thousands of college football players". That may be true, but there are not thousands of college football players who were All-Americans, played in the Rose Bowl, and also will be named to their University's Football Hall of Fame. Thanks for the lack of thought in deleting the article. Wiki is a waste if no one cares to understand what they are deleting. Maybe someone with football knowledge should only delete football players?!

Dissapointing. Done with Wikipedia.

Please note that although I nominated the article for deletion, I did not delete it. The discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Voss was properly concluded. If you disagree with the process, not the votes, you may submit it to WP:DRV for a rehearing. User:Zoe|^(talk) 15:14, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

5000 copies

I'm still waiting for a policy on this statement. Where does Wikipedia say this on WP:BIO or WP:CSD? Zos 23:57, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Your comment Re: Mending Wall on deletion review

Can I ask you where I might have said anything that might be construed as a personal attack? -- SCZenz 19:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I actually wasn't thinking of you at all when I wrote that; after all, your AfD nomination says "transwiki to wikisource" so I was under the impression that you thought it was legally in the public domain and you were nominating it for some other reason. I was thinking of Robertsteadman, who in my opinion maintained a very insistent campaign based on the convolution of two issues: 1) a misunderstanding of copyright law, and 2) his believe that the poem was non-notable. He was in error on the first part, and he was rather insistent about it, and if he had listened to the suggestions of others (perhaps the first time Xoloz suggested the problem might be a difference in US vs. UK copyright law) it would have saved us all a lot of time. (The non-notability, was of course debatable, and was debated.) Perhaps you made a mistake also in the AfD nomination, if you were thinking AfD is the proper place to discuss a possible copyright problem that could be easily removed from the article. But you should not read more into my words than I say; if I say you or another user has made an error, that is not a personal attack, nor is it intended as one. -- SCZenz 21:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I certainly never said anyone shouldn't have expressed an opinion, but I continue to maintain that the assertion the poem was a copy-vio was a clear error from the start—unless Wikipedia:Public domain was wrong, and then it should have been hashed out there first with interested users who (presumably) know a bit about copyright law. That is what I intended to say the first time, and I do not believe it is a personal attack; if you think it is, I would be interested to hear why and perhaps I'll reconsider. -- SCZenz 21:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

24 Minutes, CRU, Gategoer- Destroyed

Fair enough. If you do not want this on the website, then so be it. But next time, give a good reason why it should be deleted instead of because it is about a local school. Explain why, because from my point of view, you and others seemed to blow 24 Minutes out of the water. Now my first entries were false, yes, but I just wanted to see what would happen to them if posted. Posting the false is my fault, but 24 Minutes was REAL, not a lie. I thought it would be proactive to display a parody of 24 because it went with the topic. Yes, I defended my page because if I didn't, it would be destroyed anyway, so I gave it a shot, it failed. I bet if you were in my shoes, you would do everything to save an article that you worked on, or at least figure out why it was unfit to be here. I really hoped the environment of Wikipedia would be more excepting to articles written along with other important topics. I can say this, you do find the false and delete it quicky, I support that. But, if the topic was connected to another, I just don't see why it can't stay. I only been here for 24 hours, that's it. I don't know all the rules and regulations, but I do know that this is a website that offers free knowledge to all around the world. Then doesn't that give the world the free chance to share some of their factual culture to the world? Does it hurt anyone if a page stands that doesn't quite follow all the rules? If it does, I'm sorry. But please, be more proactive and make others, not just myself, understand why what they written was wrong. If everyone in the world were less accepting, we would all be in a world war, but were not. We, to the best of our ability, try to have an open mind about other things, and not shoot them down. If people didn't give Edison the chance to invent the light bulb, phonograph, movie camera, cement, etc., we wouldn't have those things today. My point of this is that instead of just posting delete on something, saying -doesn't work- explain why to them so they could redue it or let it go. By the way, why are spending so much of your time on this webpape everyday, looking at everyone's work? Go outside and enjoy your life instead of staying indoors, staring at a computer screen. I know I will be. -Gategoer

WP:ANI

Thanks for your reasoned reponse to my comments on the Alienus unblocking. I was getting frustrated and I think my comments were stronger than they needed to be. I appreciate your not escalating past my own strong comments. User:Zoe|^(talk) 00:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

No no, your comments were quite appropriate. RfC is the right thing to do with an admin who consistently breaches policy, which I did. I do apologize. I complain about admins who block too easily, but maybe I'm an admin who unblocks too easily. Well, it's OK to challenge a block, but I have to follow procedure. -lethe ^{talk +} 01:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Capitol Cigar Store

Hi Zoe! Yes, very clever... but at the same time a bit dim (so very easy to see through what they were doing!). I've corrected the close I did on the AfD to remove your name - although you have to admit that, at a glance, the deletion history page doesn't tell you why it was deleted, just who did it! ➨ ЯЄDVERS 22:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Kennedyjohnson.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Kennedyjohnson.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

Zoe: I just read through your short list (only June this year). You sure are involved in a lot of deleting. I don't know who has what job around here, is your job deleting articles? Is June the month you delete alot? Is this an unusual month - a lot of writers showing up who don't know what they are talking about? Is June slow month for this? One guy said he was here for only twenty four hours. Is that a long time, a short time? Was he lucky to be here that long? How could he have had more than 24 hours, if he wanted it? As an editor, that sure seems like a short time to decide he didn't belong here, but I didn't see his story. It must have had every error a story could possibly have to last a mere 24 hours. How did you derive at 24 hours or less (or possibly a little more) as enough time for a writers story to stay in Wikipedia? I thought that this was a public place, I would have given the guy a week or so. Especially if it were his first piece. Do you also decide which stories are taking up too much space for no good reason and, that 24 hours is good? Is the public happy with that? How do you know? Lastly, do you own part of the Wikipedia? Is there any money in it? Are there shares open for sale? Thanks, Bud Whiteye 00:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)Bud Whiteye

No, Zoe just loves deleting things she doesn't agree with. She can always call them "copyright violations" or some such nonsense. Here definiton of fair use is "if I personally think it's fair, then it's fair use; if not, it isn't." She could care less where the image is sourced or cited. Even she doesn't like it, she wipes it. And there's nothing you can do. Welcome to Wikipedia. Zoe's troll ground. You'd think an attractive girl like her would have some sort of social life, wouldn't you. 71.158.149.97 00:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Bud Whiteye

Zoe: Thanks for your kind reply. I am writing about the Sarnia Area pollution. From the first word, I never felt I was writing anything else. I have read about Chernobyl in the Wiki and other places, ugly as it is, it has forced its place in history. The whole world knows about Chernobyl through encyclopedias and other sources, primary or as in the Wikipedia. Such disasters as Chernobyl should be revealed to the world. The disasters at Aamjiwnaang are no less horrible. It is not my point of view alone that Sarnia, Aamjiwnaang and all those affected by "Chemical Valley" see the pollution as anything less than a disaster. Nobody knew about Krakatoa until somebody went there, took some notes, revealed some evidence and wrote about it. Historians and writers are good like that. My article may have some gliches, but it is about the disaster on-going at Aamjiwnaang. Zoe, why does it have to be about Sarnia? Sarnians know how to write. They can as easily link to Aamjiwnaang, when they chose to write about the disaster. One of your colleagues expressed a kind of "systemic discrimination" upon certain stories that keep some articles from not appearing or enjoying great debate. Is an Aboriginal story, written by an Aboriginal one of those special kinds of discrimination? I'm not inserting this as a qualifier for my story. I know you would not accept it as such. My defense of the story stops for now, with "...the disaster" in bold above. Your site manager runs all of our words together. You asked if I had any Qs, that is one. I would hate for the eventualities at Aamjiwnaang go un-noticed because of a bias not listed in your criteria. Thanks again, Bud WhiteyeBud Whiteye 02:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Ceiling cat 00.jpg

What criterion for speedy deletion did this image meet? Thank you for reverting the BBIH vandalism on my UT page, incidentally. —BorgHunter (talk) 02:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

- I would like to know, Zoe, why you tend to want to delete things just like that? Are you incharge here? If so, I understand your desire to edit everything, but if not, then what business do you have deleting other people's article?. I know you can hear me. And I know you know the source of this question. I'm still a little ticked that I received no reply from you about why you wanted to delete my articles so badly, when they've been posted for less than 2 days! I've only been here for 2 days now. If it was a rule violation, then just say so. If it was a misunderstanding, say so. Don't expect me and all other newcomers to know what you mean when we just walked through the door! Give us a break, please. I started friendly and with good intentions but now you seem to throw things against the door. Why? Why nice one minute and rude the next? I didn't ask for this! I asked for a little understanding, give me a break! And I'm back again just to see if you could give me a decent response to why my artcles were so bad. And once you do that, then tell me what I can write and can't write. Is it that diffucult and tedious to ask? I want peace and understanding. I hoped that Wikipedia's environment was peaceful, but now it's more like battlefield, edit this, destroy that. If this wepsite was BUILT FOR EVERYONE, then shouldn't the creator of an article have a say in their article's future? Please Respond so I can understand why you are so angry at me.

That's just good ol' Zoe, no matter if you are new to Wikipedia or have something to contribute. And don't get her started on "Neutral Point of View." You'll probably have to wait a long time for a response, too. A classic example of Wiki Administrators run wild. She unfairly and without reservation maligns even minimal contributions from first-time contributors.Harmanos 03:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Yep. Welcome to Wikipedia. Otherwise known as "Zoe's domain." Whatever she doesn't like, she wipes, and always has some excuse about "violating copyright," etc. even when there's no such violation. Especially if you're new. Then she accuses everyone who agrees with you of being a sockpuppet. Typical frustrated fangirl. 71.158.149.97 00:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Morwen's RFC

I agree that the two parties endorsing the RFC are potentially the same editor, and I've filed a RFCU to determine whether this is the case. I saw your comment, and thought you'd like to know. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 20:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

justice court pt2

Wikipedia:SCAG was just created, by User:Geo.plrd, the creator of Wikipedia:Justice Court. Sorry to add to your workload, but i'm not terribly familiar with mfd procedures yet, and am hoping that you might be more streamlined at dealing with this. Thanks :) -Quiddity 21:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

SCAG

The watchdog group was just a program to compile statistics If that offended you just delete the program page.Geo.plrd 21:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Fine as I said before just delete the program, not the sponsor.

Reply

I am not creating 'fiefdoms', I would not be Poobah of SCAG you deleted the series before I was able to post restrictions to the Chancellor. My emergency powers must be relinquished when a Governance Council is seated. The executive would be the Chair which has to be elected. Geo. 01:38, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Zoe

Thanks again for your response (a quick one; over in a page where I tried to reach all of the editors (I wrote them all) who had concerns. I have only your reply (NPOV) and a sentence that includes "...please don't hesitate to ask." So, I did. I explained that everyone, including the manufacturers hold the view on how polluted Aamjiwnaang and Sarnia are. Then I asked some technical q's to try to be inkeeping with Wiki Policies. Now, this is in "My Page" (Bud Whiteye) can you get this from here? Thanks, Bud Whiteye Bud Whiteye 22:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC) ZOE, I brought this over from my "Talk" page; I didn't know what else to do. No one has told me yet where to write where editors who have concerns can read (my) our responses. Thanks Bud Whiteye Bud Whiteye 22:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Zoe from Bud

Zoe: I left you a short note today (June 20, late PM) in your "Talk" page. BWBud Whiteye 22:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Zoe

I didn't think you were going to get back to me. I must have hit an artery: I'm getting some good responses now. Editor Z told me that since my article is "out there" (Google, Anishenabek News, and so on) it is not OR. Are you both right - somhow? I believe the world and Wiki readers would be well served if they had this information as a resource, a place to turn in researching the world's polluted sites - might help them get a PhD. I can't understand why most editors are stuck on "Op-ed, or news article. The information and the people dying or not being born are still there. I am a writer. If the information needs to be put another way (as in Chernobyl), why can't that be done? Again, thanks for your timely and good reply. Bud WhiteyeBud Whiteye 23:36, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Anon leaving "warnings"

• Whoever 71.158.149.97 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) is, he's just gotta make you smile. Danny Lilithborne 01:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• • Sometimes. User:Zoe|^(talk) 01:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Zoe

Thanks Zoe: This is the first time you have said I could do a re-write. I believe another editor would like me to as well. I am a writer, most writers are used to rewrites and multiple editing (usually by one and the same editor) that never means one is a bad writer, it means the editor knows what they want and the piece has not yet achieved those parameters set by the editor - based on the rules set by the publisher (publication). BTW This story is from many places, if you check, you'll notice that google did not get it from Wiki. How much time do I have to do a rewrite? BWBud Whiteye 12:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

?

Do you have any objections to me starting a group to calculate statistics. One of the programs would calculate mediation success. There would be no admin programs. Geo. 20:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I need a group because this would be a massive undertaking, involving quite a few volunteers. The statistics would be used to

make a better encyclopedia and would verify official statistics.(Example:Mediation success rate could be used to estimate how many cases go to Arbcom). I will have oversight boards so there will be no grand high poobah. Also I would like to put the past behind us. Geo. 23:40, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The statistics (for mediation program) would be used to help the Arbcom predict how many cases they will receive. The statistics in

other programs will state their purpose in the program plan. I have no plans to collect statistics that will be used to harass people. Geo. 23:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

That was one possible program. Another would determine how many specialist admins there areGeo. 20:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

A specialist admin is a administrator who indicates a focus on a certain aspect on their listing on the sysop category. By tallying up the number of Admins with each specialty, you can

see where Wikipedia has the least admins focusing. Data collection would involve counting how many Admins are in each specialty. The only list would have numbers, and zero names.Geo. 20:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll never contribute again!

Congratulations! Thanks to your original problem with "NPOV" of a man murdered by another man who had a quite lucid, non-neutral point of view about racism, and your mistreatment of "sock puppets", "noobs", and other first-time users, you have driven me away from ever joining the Wikipedia community. I don't have to hide behind an IP address, either. I cannot help but to feel sad that something I liked and enjoyed was ruined. I wonder if this makes Danny Lilithborne smile to know another useless, faceless, nobody will get swept out of Wikipedia because of you.

Best of luck in future endeavors. My username will be deleted in two days. Harmanos 05:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

How sad that you were unable to transform Wikipedia into your own soapbox. User:Zoe|^(talk) 20:08, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Your wish is my command, Excellency. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Speedy_deletions#Requested Harmanos 18:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Burnley Masher

Could you please take a look at Special:Contributions?target=Burnley Masher (ok so that's not how you can link to a contrib page apparently. this link should work) ? His only contribs seem to be adding links to one specific site to a heap of WW1 articles. While the site may actually be appropriate for a good deal of them, it still smells like linkspam to me, and out of place in at least the Treaty of Versailles article (which is where I first noticed it). -- Hirudo 14:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind I guess, Shimgray already reverted all of them -- Hirudo 18:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Andrew Cooper Talk

Why did you delete the andrew cooper talk page, we were simply putting our case forward to re-instate the page, the subject matter himself was also posting a valid reason for it to stay, you culled an article before it had a chance to grow and have sources added to it, you are clearly a poor Mod

O'Reilly Controversies Article

I didn't delete the red cross section, I moved it to Bill O'Reilly (commentator) article. Please before reverting edits check the summeries.

A direct quote from O'Reilly reguarding the peabody award was not nessesary it wasted space. But I will leave that alone.

Fanboy rubbish

What are you talking about? You don't know anything about him, or where he works. Who are you to say, "Hardly"?

removing the world 111 Fally Rampage

YOUR A FUCKERN RETARD FOR REMOVIND SHADOOMS ARTICLE!! ::GM::

Sry that my article has caused GM to start insulting u shadoom1

May I translate that for you Zoe? This anon is saying "ban me for personal attacks plz!!!!1!!" J.J.Sagnella 10:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Molobo's talk

Thank you for your decisive action at User talk:Molobo, removing insults. Yet I wonder if other users remarks on his talk page should be restored? Their entries should stay documented IMHO.--Matthead 16:19, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Can I finish?

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kinston Indians

Hi. I notice you had a bunch of A-level minor leaguers' articles deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kinston Indians. Just curious why you didn't include Trevor Crowe, Scott Lewis, Ryan Goleski and Chuck Lofgren? I figure maybe they just weren't grouped with the rest. Just wanted to make sure before I bring those to AFD as well. Thanks.  :) —Wknight94 (talk) 10:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

User Pete Peters

Could you look over his contributions and consider a block for vandalism?

Thanks Arthur Ellis 01:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

GFDL

I don't understand your objection. I've reworded my statement, but I don't see how deleting and merging violates GFDL. Cheers! Ted^Talk/_{Contributions} 03:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, you were right. I've changed my vote to merge and redirect.--Joe Jklin (T C) 03:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. I'll change the way I say it from now on. Ted^Talk/_{Contributions} 18:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Calvin Tuteao

rm PROD, [[WP:POINT[[ violation. Changed "starred" to appeared".

So, how are those mind-reading courses going? Not so well, I can tell you. So what part of my prod: Very minor actor was unclear? Hint 1: "very minor" had nothing to do with whether he is, in fact, a minor. A quick glance at the IMDB listing would have provided a further clue.*Hint 2: whether he "starred"/"appeared"/"did handstands" is not relevant to the first three words of the prod reasoning. Citing that as your apparent rationale for removing the Prod strikes as you violating WP:POINT yourself -- you know, disrupting the Proposed Deletion process to make some sort of point. Oh, the irony. --Calton | Talk 04:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

ISG

I have started the Wikipedia:ISG. it has been MfD , please review to see if it should be deleted.Geo. 01:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Ebenezer

If you bother to look, you'd see I WROTE the amazon.com piece--and it wasn't an exact copy that was posted here.

If you don't want contributions say so.

You could have spoken to me before you go deleting.

trezjr 21:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

If you contacted me first, I could have removed the Amazon piece--and it wasn't a rip-off.

If you checked the time stamps, you would have seen the article was written BEFORE the Amazon piece was posted.

trezjr 21:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Would you re-instate the page if I remove the amazon.com review and check the npov?

trezjr 15:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks; will the same page name be accepted?

trezjr 17:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

TfD

I think a potentially very disruptive template is on verge of being kept. If you have time, please take a look at this TfD discussion. [3] Regards. 172 | Talk 21:44, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

A Request for Your Feedback

Hello; I noticed you have recently contributed to the current events portal and thought you would be interested in looking at a proposal for redesigning the page. If you can, please take a look at a redesign proposal I created and provide some feedback on its talk page. So far, very little feedback has been received, and so the additional input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. joturner 23:07, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Hands Off Venezuela

Hi,

I took the info from the Hands Off Venezuela site itself (www.handsoffvenezuela.org), and the site you pointed at took it from the original source. Sorry about the captalisation, shall I just start from scratch or move the article?

(sorry I am new with adding Wikipedia entries but would like to get more involved)

Maarten

Are your ears burning?

FYI, someone is talking about you. User:trezjr has approached a couple of people to query your deletion of his article. The JPS^{talk to me} 09:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

I believe that I must read the "How to write a Wiki". I need to work on my unbiased narrative voice. Thank you very much for reminding me about the sandbox, both Joe Motiki and Ian Serota were experiments on how to wiki. After more experimenting/practicing, I believe that I can tackle wanted articles.

Thank You Again,

Josh

PS Sorry for publishing useless articles

please undelete Malini Fonseka

00:36, 5 July 2006 Zoe (Talk | contribs) deleted "Malini Fonseka" (content was: '{{csd}}{{hangon}}'''Malini Fonseka''' is a Sri Lankan film actor. ==External links=={{imdb-name|0284717}}[[Category:Living p...')

• I had added {{hangon}} and some relevant text, but the article wasn't finished. Could you please take a look at the IMDb link on that page which will show you the actor's films? If you think the actor is notable, please undelete the article. TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 00:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh mistress of the dark

In the article on a nude beach,
A guideline I think is in breach,
d So could please say
To User JJay,
"That reversion's a bit of a reach."

brenneman ^{L} 01:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

*Sigh* And reverting a fairly straightforward tidy-up of the guideline as well. - brenneman ^{L} 00:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow, dispute resolution! Who are you and what have you done with Zoe? *chuckle* - brenneman ^{L} 00:32, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Did you ever have the thing where you're having a conversation and one side isn't going the way you expect? I'm having that now. I thought that you wouldn't mind chiming in on a clear-cut external links question. I was slightly suprised by both the content and the tone of the response, so I made a small joke at your expense as banter. I didn't intend to get you cut, so I'm sorry if I did. - brenneman ^{L} 02:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Massive deletion of articles

Who is "Zoe", anyway? Perhaps he or she already explained that these animated ones from the American Broadcasting Company claimed to be "not verifable". Will you please note that Pup Named Charlie or Charlie Returns only in the late 1980s/early 1990s for a short time have all been deleted only last year.

The Weather Channel? - This channel runs nothing, but weather, except for the occasional segments of home, garden and etc.

--4.188.69.58 06:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

If you're going to write on my Talk page, please at least try to be coherent. User:Zoe|^(talk) 21:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I will be coherent. The Weather Channel as I have said before, is nothing, but weather forecasting, except for the occasional segments of home improvement, garden and etc.

And how does that have any relation to me? User:Zoe|^(talk) 17:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

April 20, 2006

Anyone can probably create an article about the plane crash near Bloomington, Indiana, it happened on April 20, 2006, in a densely-wooded area, but this was far more tragic.

--4.160.183.21 05:22, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Addendum to "Here is my attack"

Well, I hace confessed to vandalizing for the past several months, and for permanently scarring my reputation. I want to state now that Tex's contention that I haven't left is entirely false, I only came back on the 23rd to voice my opinion against RobChurch, and his RfA. Well, my attack: I am sorry for being the CIyde vandal and for my attacks on John Reid. I am sorry that I came here, stressing myself, and others out. To further emphasize this, I did create an account with the intention of it being constructive after a three month long meltdown. Hopefully, I will be able to edit constructively, and I am sorry for all the trouble I cause. Yes, people reform, and to be honest, the point of the vandalism was to attract attention to what I see as incivility, and the reasons several of my friends have left here. But vandalism is vandalism, so I better quit before I get in trouble. I am sorry I was ever apart of the project. I DONT want to be a Brian Chase. But, at least I did edit here constructively for a year and three months before I went haywire.εγκυκλοπαίδεια*14:34, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Addendum: It is my wish to make it clear that I want to return to the encyclopedia, and I am asking that my block may be lifted so I can continue my work here. I sincerely apologize for my actions.εγκυκλοπαίδεια*16:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for helping me so much

I am deeply sorry for the sins I have commited here. I hope my reëntry here will be sincerely welcomed. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 19:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

My undoing of blocks

Hi, Zoe. I understand that you're a disinterested party and that you commented in good faith on my unblocking actions wrt His excellency. I don't know if you saw His excellency's explanation that, just as I said, I only made a real block change once--that the other time was me trying to fix a technical problem? The block had expired (this was Woohookitty's one-week block), but HE still couldn't edit, and several admins on IRC tried to fix it. As I understand it, there was a capitalization discrepancy (Excellency/excellency) which was keeping Jeffrey Gustafsson's supposedly undone indefinite block still active. I saw it and fixed it (rather proud of myself, being no techie :-)) There was no question of me undoing a valid block; HE was *supposed* to be able to edit. If this is unclear, please let me know. I'll be glad to ask a developer or whatever to explain what happened, and then perhaps you could see your way to withdrawing your statement on ANI that I, uh, said the thing which was not? It makes me uncomfortable to see it there, coming from a super-respectable admin like yourself. Bishonen | talk 00:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC).

wp:jimbo makes mistakes

unfortunately, i don't know just how "pov rant"ish this essay was, because you deleted it, but it doesn't seem to be a valid candidate for speedy deletion. also, the deletion policy doesn't say anything about deleting articles in the wikipedia namespace. wikipedia essays are defined as "Essays about Wikipedia and related topics. These are not policy and are primarily opinion pieces.", so i don't see why you can delete an essay becuase it is POV. maybe it did deserve deletion, but i feel you should use the afd process and let the community decide. --Samael775 19:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

auctionbytes

Auctionbytes is the premier online newletter for the online auction community. Yes, it is a "business" and yes I did link to it. No, it is not my website. I find it strange that you would remove it from Wikipedia....

I know how to participate content in this forum... in fact I supplied statistics in Paypal that I was the source of and collected when Paypal first began...very valuable stats I might add.

Are you the assigned Moderator of this (eBay) forum?

-Me

A new userbox you might like.

Hi Zoe,

I couldn't resist making the following userbox after reading the attached link. After being insulted on numerous occasions by trolls I decided to fight back the best way I know how -- with a witty userbox! Feel free to remove this from your talk page if you don't appreciate the humour. = )

Cheers,

 Netsnipe  ^(Talk)  05:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

WP: Policies & guidelines This Wikipedian is proud to be a “Bureaucratic F**k”.

shrug

Please do not remove commercial links or links that in your frontal lobe beleives is my private website linked on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for sticking one's head in the sand or a mere collection of ONE individual's opinion what is or is not related to a company and/or industry. You are, however, encouraged to smile and not take yourself so seriously instead of removing links from the encyclopedia. If you feel the link should be removed from the article please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than removing it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thanks.

Re: There are no assigned moderators

so if there are no assigned moderators how is it that YOU have the power to prevent me from future posting?

Someone has sent for the cabal!

A mediation cabal request has been filed in which you are named as a party. Please comment at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-7-11 EBay. Remember, there is no cabal! Stifle (talk) 10:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Might want to be aware...

Of this edit[4] after your recent block of an abusive editor. -- H·G (^words/_works) 02:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

• Hope you're still watching, same user is still at it in the AfD's in question. I've reported him appropriately for blocking, but it'd be good to know an admin is watching, since this guy manages to keep pulling out sockpuppets. -- H·G (^words/_works) 02:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

My comment

It was inexplicable to me at the time but I then had the bright idea of looking at your contribs and then I did indeed understand your action as may be clear from my edit (if you saw it) to the afd on Tramper. I have removed my comment and this socks too, SqueakBox 03:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for sorting all that out. I usually laugh at inane rants (such as the type the user has left on my talk page), but when they start to gather extra-wikipedia info about me (and info about meatspace) it becomes worrying. For a while, anyway. The JPS^{talk to me} 04:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

According to WP policies and guidelines,

your comments on the village pump should only consider the content of my proposal, and not only the small editcount of my username. Ad personam comments are generally considered uncivil, and I have replied to you on that talkpage. Azmoc 08:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Sombody emailed me about this[5] discussion here, because of the sockpuppet suspicions against Azmoc, and because he was unsure if it was me (obvious similarities in username). So, for the record: it's not me! If I wanted a sockpuppet, I'd pick a less obvious name... Azate 03:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Unblocking

I had my account blocked indefinitely, and no good reason for it. User:Llywrch blocked User:Panarjedde indefinitely because "(sock of Panairjdde, who is under 24-hour block)", and blocked User:Panairjdde indefinitely because "(he says he has closed this account;" What should I do? What is the procedure to follow when you think an Admin abused his powers?--151.47.90.90 10:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Admins abuse their powers all the time, giving blocks and indef blocks as they like or unlike someone. There is practically nothing you could do. Azmoc 12:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Hah. There are plenty of places to get help. Contact another admin (as this user intelligently did) or present your case on WP:AN/I. There are many non-admins there as well watching over things, including me. --mboverload@ 12:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Micronation#External_links

It's possible that I'm wrong that fifteen anglefire/geocities/etc links are a bad thing, and that the fellow who keeps replacing them is right. What do you reckon? - brenneman ^{L} 04:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Robbyne Manning

Her legal birthname is Robbyne Manning. Robin is actually a mispelling. Apart from ANTM, she is credited as Robbyne Manning (imdb, Miss Tennessee competition, Miss Soybean competition etc.)

Vizconde Massacre

Is there a reason this page should remain deleted-protected? There is a film of this name[6], and there is common reference to an event of this name[7]. —Centrx→talk • 06:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Play nice! :-)

Not saying that one or the other was being silly here. Just um, Ashibaka put it up at the village pump (policy) for review, and now no-one else can review it, and/or tell him if and why it sucks.

Ah well. In future, note that you don't always have to speedy, sometimes you can consider moving items into a users namespace. But mostly, especially when someone is starting off a new page, and they are asking for input, give them a chance to get that input. You never know what the outcome might be! :-)

Kim Bruning 09:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, Ashibaka is a trusted-ish user IIRC. So I'm surprised they'd write an attack page. <scratches head> Could you send me the original text of the page per email? Thanks! Kim Bruning 08:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm probably reading this differently from you. <scratches head some more>. It reads a bit like

use Brain;

to me. You're interpreting it differently? --Kim Bruning 21:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

On blocking users

When you block a user, don't forget to leave a message on their talkpage indicating that they've been blocked, why, etc etc. --Improv 13:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Redirect vote

Hi, I see you had interest in the Britain/Great Britain article. There is now a Redirect Britain to Great Britain vote on the page. El Gringo 19:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Jimbo makes mistakes

Howdy, I restored this as I didn't see a valid reason for the deletion in the first place. I think it's almost always poor form to re-do an action another admin has undone. I didn't see that it was discussed anywhere obvious, but my apologies if I'd missed something. If you really see a big problem with the page, is there a way to deal with it less invasively than deletion? Friday (talk) 22:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

So, what, you're just going to wheel war over it and not discuss it? You've now reversed two different admin's undeletions. Very poor form indeed. Friday (talk) 14:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Stay cool and discuss first folks. Possibly the page should be worded differently? Kim Bruning 14:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I gave reasons for undeleting on the talk page. I still see no explanation of the reason for deletion, other than short commments in the deletion log. First it was deleted for being a "rant", then later it was deleted for being an "attack page". I'm rather dismayed that so many editors apparently think that anything that looks like criticism is automatically an attack page. Friday (talk) 15:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Zoe put the full text on my talk page too. :-) Perhaps it looks ambiguous to some people, and it might need to be "npov"ed in some way?

Zoe: Would you mind if we undelete and move to userspace? With a little luck we can safely assume good faith on this one. That and Friday and I will also keep an eye on it, if Friday doesn't mind.? Kim Bruning 16:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm willing to help however I can, and I'll certainly watch it, but I have no particular interest in that content. I just saw from Wikipedia talk:Jimbo makes mistakes that Ashibaka wanted it back. Since I saw no particular reason for the initial deletion, or the subsequent re-deletion, I undeleted. As a general principle, I hate to see issues resolved by deletion, when simple editing would do the trick. Friday (talk) 17:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Personal info

I'm saying it on your talk page so it's not as noticed, but wikitruth's website has lots of admins on the front page and that site reveals things like real names, and lots of personal info. It even reveals birth names of people who changed it for a sex change operation. The link is in the article. Hardvice 03:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

And that is one of the reasons Blu Aardvark will not be welcomed back to Wikipedia. User:Zoe|^(talk) 03:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Landismas

I'm trying to start something to help cyclists form just a slightly better community. This has been deleted and restored, and you delete it again?

I sent this to Bob Roll, Velonews, and OLN, but it's gone now, again. What gives?

By the time I wake up, it'll probably be too late. Thanks for squashing this. Willcore

why are you here

I don't have to explain myself to you. I see you made your first 500 edits almost entirely in 10 days. Wow. It's true that I have been registered for 3 monts, but made also like 300 article edits in like 2 weeks in June. Whatever, that time was wasted, I could have used it for better things. Wikipedia attracts losers that have nothing better to do than sit infront of a computer and "do the good thing". Rewards like barnstars, praise and most importantly the adminship are very nice, kinda psychological work I guess. Why exactly are you here? What is your inner motivation? Got a lame job? Have to sit in front of the box all the time anyway? Tell me on my talkpage please. Azmoc 14:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

RtV

I see you actually already tried to vanish once, right? What went wrong? Are you addicted to wikipedia or what? Have noone to talk to at home? Azmoc 14:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The Real Reason

Whatever. You can't be bothered to answer my question either, but I can promis you, if you tell me why you are on wikipedia, I will tell you too. Azmoc 06:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Warning

Somebody might put you on wheels if you dont answer my questions.

Azmoc 10:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Zoe, having stumbled across this discourse between yourself and Azmoc I thought I might point out that although on Wikipedia references like this to wheels makes one tend to think of Willy on Wheels, in this case Azmoc was likely sarcastically referring to a torture wheel like this, this or this. Not sure if knowing that'd make much difference relative to the block but if one assumes good faith this explanation should hold sway. Take it easy. (→Netscott) 23:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Ameriflag

Gee, I kind of liked my autobiography you deleted there. In fact, I thought it was pretty fucking good. I spent a whole five minutes writing it. Well I guess next time I'll just have to save a copy of it. In the mean time, enjoy my present to you. I hope you like your new name. Annie May 03:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC) (AKA User:Don't give an Ameriflag)

How old are you, ten? User:Zoe|^(talk) 20:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Zoe, I appreciate your concern, however, I wrote that bio. That is me, Datguy. My partner and I have a radio show on Mercury Sessions. I own everything on that page! Thank you for watching out, but that was written soley by me, and copied by everyone else who writes us up as artist. Please leave the article in tact. I own full copyrights to it all.

Tony Mugavero-Datguy

emailme (at) datguy (dot) com

Actually, Zoe, he claims to be 17. Freedom usually cares, kindly 17:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I own the copyright on all of our bio!

Zoe, thank you for your concern, however, I wrote that bio for our artist page. I am the owner of the copyright for Datguy, and all materials regarding it. Any copies found anywhere on the net are my words that people got from our website. We have a radio show on Mercury Sessions, where they copied it as well. I would appreciate you leaving it there. Thank you again for your concern. Please email me if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Tony Mugavero, Datguy,

emailme (at) datguy (dot) com

Please don't leave one sentence messages which don't tell me anything. I am deleting them. Once you have more to say, please rewrite them. --ppm 23:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

"if I want"??? From when does that matter! Do whatever you want, including leaving unwanted messages on the talk page. --ppm 23:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

"I see you like "unwanted" comments when they praise you, but you're not so happy when another user suggests" -- oh yeah? Would you try reading my talk page once again, or, like, for the first time?? Here's what's on my talk page:

"you must NOT make that judgment"..."Here you impose your POV about Ray's life"..."I think the organization is messed up" ...."can you mark what facts are being supported by the references being added?"

The difference is: You delete/redirect the articles, and THEN come to me with sanctimonious advice.--ppm 23:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Fullname

Just to make it the fullname, you can always revert it and make the fullname a redirect.

Swiss municipalities

Thanks! I created a script and ran it against a database dump from the German Wikipedia. (I also did the same and completed the list of Swiss distruct navigation bars.) I now have on my hard drive about 1800 files, each one representing a stub article for a single Swiss municipality. Creating a new article is thus a matter of clicking on a redlink, finding the municipality's SFOS number, pasting the contents of the the associated file and saving. It goes without saying that it is laborious and tedious work. I have thought about creating a bot for the task, but it is a little beyoond my skills at present. BillC 23:56, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Recent edit wars

Hello Zoe. Thanks for your attention to someone whom I've had an edit war with. I have opened a case against this person on Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets, and I hope you can comment on it. I was just trying to revert major changes that came without consensus. If that's wrong, I don't know Wikipedia. If you're not familiar with me or the situation, please see my discussion there, which should tell you everything. Thank you. Tinlinkin 07:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Buffalo Bill

I too have read Buffalo Bill's autobiography and it clearly says that he was born in 1845. I believe that Buffalo Bill would know himself what year he was born in instead of a school book written years after his death. Bcody 13:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Zoe

You know that I have tried to answer your questions and settle the disputes between us by e-mail. It would be nice of you if you decided to reply to them, even on my talkpage. Thank you in advance for any input. Azmoc 20:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1

This arbitration case is closed, and the final decision has been published at the link above. For the Arbitration Committee. --Tony Sidaway 23:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Please do not edit other people's user pages

Please do not edit other people's user pages. Feel free to report it to other admins (except the one who is involved in it) if you would like. --Aminz 01:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Zoe, what if I want to give Zereshk a barnstar? I can't edit his userpage?????? Will you add it for me, (please)? --Aminz 02:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

May I also request you to at least add the Category of 'Wikipedia administrators' to your userpage? --Aminz 02:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, if you don't like to pay any attention to me, it's fine. At least please add the Category of 'Wikipedia administrators' to your userpage so that nobody would have "the temerity to lecture" you. --Aminz 02:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

In all the fuss over User:Zereshk, there are two Fair Use pictures that are still up (see my removals on the history page). If you'd care to remove them, it'd be appreciated, or otherwise tell me to, but I'd rather not do so while the page is under protection by a different admin. :) Thanks ~Kylu (u|t) 03:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Done, thanks ~Kylu (u|t) 03:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

If you don't want fullnames used as the title of your article and prefer a truncated name, then revert it and make the full name a redirect. If there already has been discussion between the two and consensus has been reached then make the fullname a redirect. That way everyone knows its already been discussed. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 03:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Show me a written rule

Show me a written rule, otherwise you are enforcing your very personal opinion. I will continue my editing tomorrow at 6:00 EST unless you can show me a written rule. All my moves are easily reversible, and the procedure when using a truncated version of someone's name is to make the full name a redirect as in "Jimmy Carter" and "James Earl Carter". Feel free to revert the ones you are passionate about, but please cite rules and regulations, or lobby for new rules and regulations. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 03:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Brick 'O Common Sense

For your recent biting commentary on the Village pump [8][9][10] , I hereby award you the rarest, most sought after wiki-award - Raul's brick 'O common sense. Raul654 07:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

NWA Virginia Junior Heavyweight Championship

Hello, I have restored NWA Virginia Junior Heavyweight Championship which was deleted per this AFD, because it's not a copyvio (the user who has posted it has permission to use the information from the copyright holder). So if you think there are other reasons for this article to be deleted, maybe it's time to start another AFD. Or DRV, as I guess my undeletion was kinda out-of-process (I have undeleted as the main reason cited in AFD was the copyright violation, which is not the case). Conscious 08:18, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I haven't kept the letter, but I have forwarded it to Wikimedia (the copy is at User talk:Aaron Brenneman). If absolutely necessary, it's possible to request the confirmation again. Conscious 15:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Justforasecond

Hi Zoe. Yes, I requested and received info from Nandesuka when I was considering changing the block. Based on that I probably would have shortened or removed the block, as I don't agree that minor slow motion edit warring is "valid" grounds for a month long block. However, that became irrelevant when the user agreed to stay away from the page and any 'preventative' basis to the block thus ended. That the user is pursuing the disagreement with a possible RFAr rather than moving on is unfortunate, but has nothing to do with their block status.

The fact is that the edit the user was trying to make wasn't particularly unreasonable... it is readily verifiable that numerous notable conservatives have cited the founder's felony conviction in attempts to discredit the holiday. That's a relevant and notable fact which ought to be included. His phrasing was POV and apparently meant to denounce the holiday's founder, but that's a reason to rewrite to conform with NPOV, verifiability, et cetera... rather than revert warring in turn or placing a block over content. Both sides were edit warring and violating NPOV - taking that out on the 'unpopular side' just promotes bias in Wikipedia and anger against it. --CBD 13:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

CBD, note that Justforasecond has, within the past few months, used sockpuppets to avoid 3RR while edit warring over that same fact: Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Justforasecond. I'm happy that you got him to agree to leave the article alone, but I want to make clear that I blocked him because of his behavior, not because of the content dispute. About which I don't particularly care. Nandesuka 02:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I am trying to keep this out of litigation, but a stewards opinion will help if this has to go to Arbcom. I am also going to ask other admins for a opinion. Would you be interested in doing so? Geo. 20:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure. I think he should be blocked permanently for stalking and racism. User:Zoe|^(talk) 01:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you have proof.Geo. 00:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Proof of what? Just look at his edits. User:Zoe|^(talk) 01:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Zoe, after asking on my talk page "how good is your word?" (implying I was dishonest, and, IMO assuming bad faith) I replied and explained things. I still haven't heard back from you. Beyond those allegations, I'd appreciate if you stop calling me a "racist" and suggesting I be banned indefinitely. This is uncivil and does not help wiki to be a better place. If you haven't already, take a look at my contributions[11] one of these days. Justforasecond 18:32, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Beg Pardon (The Pretension Will Stop)

Neither Knowlton Estate nor Aría were hoaxes; simply put, neither were particularly well-known. There is a difference between non-notable entries and hoax entries. If I write an article on my dog Mildred, I have not posted a hoax, now have I? Have a nice day.

Joan53 00:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Joan53

Jeanpaul Ferro

it could be possible that the user was creating an article about himself. Note: Jferro67.Geo. 00:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

A user cannot create an article about himself when someone posted it couple of years ago.

The author was adding a link to some of his work available online. Sorry if I was trying to make my own entry created by someone else better. What was I thinking?

So be it.

Murcielago 03:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Youve locked my user page for almost a week now, without even telling me.

Im not sure why. You removed the "personal attacks" ayway. So why block my own user page?--Zereshk 16:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Grange Estate

Hello, this is History21 19:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)History21. I just had a question regarding Grange Estate. One of our colleagues looked at the sources I posted and said that he (or she) thought most of the information I had written checked out. As such, I would like to repost the article. You said that you had found some inaccuracies in the Eyre section of that piece. If you could point them out to me so that I could remedy them, I would be extremely grateful. Thank you.

History21 19:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)History21

History21

He has done similar vandalism on pages I edit. Why are you giving him multiple chances after being told any more hoax edits and he is done for good? WillC 23:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

History21 Again

Fair enough. However, I urge you to please read the statement I have posted on my user page and also to look at my contributions log. I think you will see that this is a genuine misunderstanding. And I wish you to know that accusations of "vandalism" on the Maryland page are unfounded. I did voice my opinions (heatedly) in the talk section, but did not vandalize the article. I think that it would be good of you to look at that as well. I will confess that I have been frustrated and a bit angered by all of this, but I feel that it was an honest misconception on the part of some editors and I solely wish to see the issue resolved civilly.

History21 01:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)History21

==Grange and Others==

Very well. I have agreed to this, but you will maintain a certain level of professionalism. I have referred you to the sources whereby this whole thing might be cleared up, and as such expect a courteous decorum. I am not a five-year-old to be chided and in fact have contributed many legitimate articles. Assume good faith, and do your best to represent Wikipedia in a more respectful manner. You are an administrator and should be setting a good example for others.

Kristina Paner being deleted

Why have you deleted my article? I was not yet finish editing it. I was absent for about a few minutes ago and when I came back I found it was deleted. I was following instructions that you mentioned and I'm just gathering some data and other articles for her whole biography. Now how can people know who Kristina Paner is when you deleted that kind of title? You may probably delete me here as a member but please don't delete the Kristina Paner title. She's one of the relevant actress in the Philippines way back in the 80's. Please answer my posts. I want to know your answer.

Mary Ann

You are more fun than Wikipedia itself!

Truly, your approach to others, and to their work, makes you one of the most interesting studies on Wikipedia as a whole. I feast on your work, your words, your cold nastiness. Your mission. Your talk page is sort of like a petrie dish...add a bit of this, watch it grow. Which makes you the growth medium. So fetid!

Rock on. Very enjoyable.

Tanager 04:58, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks from Yanksox

Hey, Zoe/September 3 2006, thanks for supporting my RfA, with a tally of 104/4/7... I am now an admin!!! I was and still am very flattered by all the kind comments that I recieved, I will also take into account the comments about how I could improve. I guarantee I will try my best to further assist Wikipedia with the mop. Feel free to drop in and say hi or if you need anything. Again, thank you so much! Yanksox 07:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleting entry

Hello,

I was updating my Wikipedia entry that someone else entered a couple of years ago, that is also linked to other Wikipedia entries of me, and that others use it. Why was it deleted? You noted that I am not "notability enough". What is the standard? I am a noted published author with 10 books published in 9 countries. What am I missing?

Your post said if that I didn't fall under the Wikipedia standards for deletion to repost, so I did. I wasn't suppose to. Just wondering what happened. LMK.

JFerro

Languages

Hi There! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!! Abdullah Geelah 17:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Assumption?

I didn't copy and paste material from other sites. If there are similarities it may be because some articles found online are written by me and the information isn't sited because it comes from my conversations with him. I mainly was hoping that someone would write a more thorough version of Ai Weiwei, who is one of the dominant figures of Chinese art and should be on here. In fact, the lack of an article on Ai Weiwei is the reason why I joined.

Jeanpaul Ferro

Hey Zoe. Your speedy deletion of this article was brought up at WP:ANI (in rather a ranty, process-obsessed way, but there we are). This is just to let you know that since the speedy seemed a bit hasty I've undeleted the article and sent it to AFD so a consensus can be achieved. Cheers, --ⁿɡ͡b Nick Boalch\^talk 21:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow

I was reading some of the comments you were given on this page. It is amazing thaat you can put up with that. That is why I am giving you this barnstar!

The Original Barnstar For putting up with some of the "less classy" editors! Viva La Vie Boheme

Jeanpaul Ferro deletion

Hi Zoe,

I agree 100% that admins reversing your actions should talk to you. However, I see no evidence that article fit the criteria for speedy deletion; it had an assertion of notability, although very likely the community will decide that it isn't actually notable in the end. I feel it is extremely important to be stringent about meeting the speedy criteria, and to let other deletion processes run their course in borderline cases—on the off chance that other sets of eyes will spot something the first admin on the scene didn't see. -- SCZenz 06:01, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't move your talk page

Can you clarify this message on ste4k's page: That's worse than blanking it, and will get you blocked. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• I believe I did that the last time I did a big archive... which preserves the history with said archive, N'est pas? Ahhh. Whew, Guess not. Didn't after all.
     I'd apparently just thought to do so. But wouldn't that be more apropo when archiving so links were preserved, or are they not updated, so they have to be fixed manually? Thanks. // FrankB 07:25, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I didn't write that, but I wrote something very similar to that for a magazine. Standard press release material. There are factual similarities, as I'm not going to change years and events. Besides the facts, my article spent most of its time (I had been planing on elaborating) talking about his use of sacred materials and han dynasty urns in new ways. I did not talk about his architectual leanings, which I admit is a direct byproduct of my bias against that newer work. I did talk about his schooling at Parsons and Art Student League, his Southby's sale, and the founding of China Art and Archive Warehouse. This incorrect assertion that I lifted an article word for word has further dissuaded me from contributing to wiki, but as I will not be the one writings it - please write something on Ai Weiwei. He deserves it.

Los Hermanos Rosario

Hello, you deleted Los Hermanos Rosario about an hour ago. You didn't put a reason in the edit summary so I'm not sure why you deleted it (I couldn't find an AfD). I don't actually care why you deleted it, I'm just here to tell you that it's back and if you delete it again, you might want to make sure nothing wikilinks to it (or people will just create it again). Thanks! ~a (user • talk • contribs) 23:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

GA

A page you created "Daniel Day-Lewis" has became a Good Article, a very well-written article with appropriate images, referenced well and in other ways just good. Please take the barnstar to the left of this notice, cheers —Minun ^Spiderman 19:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Peter Szatmari and Natche24

Hi, Zoe. Something that occurred quite a while ago has just come to my attention, and I was hoping you would drop a clarifying comment. In the midst of a FARC for Asperger syndrome, several editors were hard at work correcting the deficiencies in the article, which resulted in the featured status being perserved. I just went to several of the user pages to award them Barnstars for their hard work, and noticed you had placed a vandalism template for one of the editors; I failed to notice it when it was mentioned here. Since Natche24 was a valued contributor to that work, I was hoping you could make a note on his talk page, so that he won't be thought of as a vandal. Since I can't access the deleted content, I can't guess why you may have viewed it as an "attack page"; Szatmari's contributions to AS are respected in the field, and by Natche24, who was trying to create a page to include the diagnostic criteria which is referred to in the main article. Thanks so much, Sandy 13:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, Zoe. Those are actually the Szatmari diagnostic criteria for Asperger syndrome. I didn't know Natche had done so much work ! Perhaps you can leave an apologetic note on his talk page ? Regards, Sandy 20:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Zoe! I'm sure it will mean a lot to Natche, since it was the first page he had tried to start. Saludos, Sandy 20:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Bad faith?

I take accusations of bad faith pretty seriously, because I put a lot of value on integrity. In order to conclude that this is a bad faith nomination, you probably have some evidence as such, correct? Do you mind sharing what that is? Thanks, Karwynn (talk) 13:41, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

==14 Year Old Girls==

Seeing as you voted on the previous AfD, I thought I would alert you to a new AfD on 14 Year Old Girls. PT ^(s-s-s-s) 20:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

hollywood and plagiarism

i won't leave because i am not here to argue about the movies but iam just telling that these were all just copies.i do not care whether it was taken from a comic book or not all i have to say is that these were all copies.and these people cheating you guys by making big bucks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nirojansakthivel (talk • contribs).

i am gonna coninue till my death

i want the truth to be seen by the world. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nirojansakthivel (talk • contribs).

Set you at ease?

Hi again, I was hoping I could set you at ease from the concerns you posted on my talk page. If you scroll down past the "changes made" to the actual talk page material on that version, you'll see that I had explained the deletion and my intent to archive at the top of the page, as well as adding a link to the (then future, now present) archive. Here is the explanation and the link for you:

I have listed stuff to archive in the second to last version of this page before this one. I'll archive as soon as I'm unblocked for a particularly bad faith block. Those wth the best intentions who think they might archive for me are not doing me a favor; I appreciate the thought anyway. It'll be archived as soon as possible, but for now it's gone because it disgusts me. Feel free to look in my history if you really, really, really need something. Karwynn (talk) 22:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Future Archive: User_Talk:Karwynn/Fun

I posted a much, much briefer version of this to my talk page as well, but I wanted to make sure you got so I posted it here; I hope my cross-posting doesn't come off as badgering, it's just that you're assertion that I was just deleting and not intending to archive seemed to be a misunderstanding based on lack of communication, so I'm doing my best to make communication possible. I do want to thank you for bringing up your concern for my archiving though, and I'd be happy to address any other concerns you have for shady practices on my part. You may yet find that I'm a well-meaning, idealistic and maybe ignorant editor rather than a disruptive troll, and I'm always got my ears open for guidance from genuinely helpful admins. Hope to see you around in the future, Karwynn (talk) 15:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Do Not Bother Me

See my previous statement on your page (most specifically, the headline).

And yes, I am fully aware of the definition of duplicitous: "Given to or marked by deliberate deceptiveness in behavior or speech." In other words, it means exactly what I thought it did. Leave me out of your disputes with History21. I want no part in it. If I am brought in by accusation, I will defend myself. Until then, buzz off.

Lilyana 23:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)Lilyana

You may be amused.

To see my somewhat changed attitude on The Game deletion page. JoshuaZ 23:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

History21 is a sock

See this, this, and this. rootology (T) 00:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry you got pulled into this crazy mess. I sure some of you think I'm a jerk, but I really do not have any personal problem with any of the admins or editors from that whole ED mess legacy, and (from the outset) it really seemed like a wild WP:BITE sort of thing--but thats why I left the caveat on my RfC posts that it seemed off, and why I pulled my response there. Thanks for being patient. rootology (T) 02:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

By the way, thanks for the tip on the AfD. I searched a bunch of variants on their name and couldn't find anything, and put up the article at The Greencards. I was sort of surprised that they weren't already up... rootology (T) 02:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

possible previous AfD question

I want to start an article for a given band--I think they meet all the notability requirements, and I checked AfDs for possible old ones for them but didn't immediately see any. Is there any list of previously deleted articles by name? rootology (T) 01:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Eyre hoaxes, History21, on ANI now

I'm placing writeup on this on ANI. I'd like it if you'd weigh in on it, as you claim to have deleted a few of the Eyre materials. What's very bothersome is how old this stuff is, there's VfDs from 2005 on some of it, and History21's was involved with that article, and so have the socks. A family blown to extreme importance, possibly more than we've seen so far. And some administrators to root through deleted material would be helpful to see if there's some material not caught. Kevin_b_er 02:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Outed My Fanny

You know as well as I do that matching IP addresses mean nothing when the addresses in question are shared by multiple groups. Take up protests about inappropriate comments with the editors who left them here. And, you may be happy to know, I am considering leaving Wikipedia. However, I will never confirm your persecution by acquiescing to your slanderous statements; no, I will not aid in the blackening of my own name.

This whole thing makes me sick.

History21 02:22, 3 August 2006 (UTC)History21

It wasn't just your fanny that was outed, guy (note to British/Australian readers: "fanny" doesn't mean what you think it means to North Americans). --Calton | Talk 02:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Believe me, I'm well aware that I won't so much as be able to say, "George W. Bush has been a controversial President" without having it deleted. I have seen myself on the administrators' report board, so the jig is effectively up, despite there having been no jig in the first place. Two innocent users have been banned, and for that I am truly sorry. Both put a lot of work into Wikipedia and have been terminated. As for me...what smattering of legitimacy do I have left, after this? The fact that I have been telling the truth doesn't matter; the public debacle has been enough to tar my reputation forever. Is it worth staying? I don't think so. I would only ask that the things I have done be examined fairly, so that the good that I have left here remains here. Good day.

History21 02:35, 3 August 2006 (UTC)History21

Two innocent users have been banned. Nooo, two abusive sockpuppets have been banned, and your complete loss of credibility -- hell, your negative credibility -- was purely self-inflicted. --Calton | Talk 02:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

RfC

Thanks for the notification about the RFC. For what's worth, my comments, had I had the time to write them, would probably have closely tracked User:Thatcher131's, with the exception of Hipocrite #1 -- History21's track record of bogus/unreliable/irrelevant references being what it is. --Calton | Talk 02:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm Not Surprised

Aw, what, you mean that he actually had a different IP address? He and I haven't even done any articles together. I can see your attitude towards me: I mean, the check did reveal shared IPs. But when nothing came up on him, you just dismissed the system as missing him or something. That's why I'm leaving.

History21 02:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)History21

At least that's one person you haven't been able to snare--and won't, unless he also had the misfortune to go to school in Baltimore.

Felix Eldridge

What made my deletion out of process? There is nothing in the article which alleges notability. Being active in student politics is not a notability criterion, and therfore speedy deletion applies. I would appreicate when you undo another admin's actions, to please let the other admin know about it. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello Zoe. I have undeleted again and started an AfD. Being the head of the National Union of Students is a non-trivial claim of notability so I feel that he needs a debate before being deleted. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 02:56, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Rebecca 02:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I still don't see that my nomination for deletion is rude. You still haven't addressed this. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

It's less the nomination itself than the dogged determination to get it deleted when others have pointed out how it serves a useful purpose. What's with the "have you changed personalities?" comment? Rebecca 03:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Quit the out-of-process deletions. You nominated last year's NUS president for AfD and resoundingly lost, so what on earth made you think you could get away with quietly speedying this year's president? Rebecca 03:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Hipocrite & History21

Yikes, what a mess. I am preparing for a trip (and consequent Wikibreak) and missed all of this. I endorsed your statement in the RfC but as you say, it's probably moot at this point. Good grief! Cheers, --MCB 05:26, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Jeffree Star

Jeffree Star is known outside of myspace, he has appeared on a magazine cover and has released some songs that have been widely listened to. He is what you'd call a "celebrity", and there is obviously public interest in him. All sources cited on his celebrity were deemed unworthy, and close to all comments criticising him were based on the commentator's personal opinion about the figure ("he is perverted"/"he is sick for doing such things to himself"/"he is a media whore"). Normally, people who others find despicable still would be able to get an article on wikipedia, at least when there is a big enough public interest - and an enormous fanbase (myspace-based or not) would show that public interest is there. (http://www.frontierspublishing.com/mag/index.php?o=art&article=637) --Radisshu 10:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

The Jeffree Star talk page has been deleted several times before, and I have read them before they have been deleted. There are some conversations about how he should have an article and some others on how he is a "media whore". I have taken the Jeffree Star page to WP:DRV to try to get the article undeleted once and it was deleted again.--grejlen - talk 00:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Zoe, I saw your response on grejlen's talk page. Many people, in fact, said he was a perverted media whore, these types of responses were plentiful in the first (now DELETED) discussion page of the Jeffree Star article. The latter ones, whoever, only contained people who expressed their desire of an article. These were deleted as well (with no counter-arguments offered). Anyway, I've put of the article for deletion/recreation review. --Radisshu 14:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

This is the sort of stuff that makes me read you, Zoe! Keep up the good work! Better than Vanity Fair, I tell you! Bubble07 14:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll assume some confusion.

It seems you may have confused {{User Computer Administrator}} with {{User wikipedia/Administrator|English Wikipedia}}. I'm reverting your change on my user page. The Computer Administrator ubx does not equate to a WP admin.

The UBX you removed is listed here as a profession UBX. Torinir _{( Ding my phone My support calls E-Support Options )} 10:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

14 Year Old Girls

I have added info to the article that help establishes notability, and I was hoping you may re-visit the AfD. Please respond at the AfD rather than this talk page, since I am leaving this message for several editors. Thank you! PT ^(s-s-s-s) 18:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Your block of User:Torinir

It would seem that {{User System Administrator}} is a userbox depicting the individual's profession, not his/her role on Wikipedia. I don't want to wheel-war, but I believe that, unless I'm missing something, the block was mistaken and would like to ask you to unblock this user. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 23:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Zoe, don't hate me because I know we just talked about this, but I've unblocked. I hate to see a good faith editor remain blocked in the face of an apparent mistake while things are being sorted out. There's no telling how long it might take for a response. Friday (talk) 00:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

This is not how I wanted things to go. I think you're overreacting. Friday (talk) 02:47, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Torinir

I saw the talk page, and I know it's certainly possible that a puppeteer and his puppet can "talk" to each other but, frankly, the evidence seems not to be with you. Maybe I'm too hung up on WP:AGF, but shouldn't comments like that be reserved for when it is? RadioKirk (u|t|c) 03:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Saw it; certainly a sympathizer and sockpuppetry is a possibility, but I'm not convinced enough to say I would be responding as you are. Of course, with more personal history, I might think dofferently ;) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 03:18, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Hum...looking at the contributions, the 12th one this editor made and seemingly out of nowhere, it was to an Rfc on me....[12]--MONGO 07:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Stressed?

Hey Zoe,

I saw your notice on WP:AN/I; you seem really stressed! After reading thru some of these nasty messages left on your talk page this past week, I can see why. Here are some flowers to cheer you up. Take care, --Firsfron of Ronchester 09:23, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Flowers for Zoe. :)

User:JohnnyCanuck and "vandalism"

Hi, Zoe. It gave me a real déjà-vu moment to notice you telling User:JohnnyCanuck to stop referring to any edits he doesn't like as "vandalism". It seems to be a compulsion, a verbal tick, with him, from way back, and apparently he will not stop, no matter what anybody says. Dip into his talkpage history, if you will... or, here are three examples of my own attempts at persuasion on the subject. [13] [14] [15] I'm disheartened to see he's keeping it up: too many people have their wikiday soured by that type of crass idiocy, and it's not like he's a newb any more. Do you agree that it's time for a good explicit warning and, if that doesn't work—as nothing has worked before—some seriously progressive blocking? Bishonen | talk 22:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC).

Yeah, me too, but I haven't studied that aspect, it seems unwelcomingly complex and I've got too much other stuff on. The "vandalism" thing can be taken in isolation, though, and since you agree, I'll warn him. It's behavior that really bugs me. Thanks. Bishonen | talk 23:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC).

Amy Dumas

There was no need to have two images of Edge and Lita after both his title victories. One is certainly enough.

Oh wah, have a cry about it, why don't you?

I've removed the image and cleaned up the article again, but I've posted a discussion. Is that okay now?

Are you kidding me?

It isn't useful elsewhere though, thus why I removed it. I understand wanting to get concensus from other people on my removing the image - which is fine by me, but saying that image is useful in any way, shape or form is not right. The image, despite it's longevity, is pointless and shouldn't have been there in the first place.

I've already read that page, please do not tell me to do it twice.

I haven't made any personal attacks on you whatsoever. A personal attack upon you would be insulting you, your family, your friends, your life, your lifestyle, etc. I have done nothing of the sort. I may not have been the most civil of people during this conversation and I'll admit to it (but I won't stop, because that's just part of who I am, like it or not) but I have not many any personal attacks upon you.

I think the image on the page is/was pointless. And it is/was. You obviously just want to do the right thing by Wikipedia and obey the rules, which is fine. But I've done it correctly, there has been discussion made about the removal of the image. If someone disagrees with the removal of the image, it will be put back up, it is that simple. If someone agees with the removal of the image, it will be left removed, again, it is that simple. Just because someone may not agree with you does not necessarily make them incorrect, deal with it please.

I really think you're make too much of a big deal out of this. Can we please stop? The removal of one image should really not stop me from editing articles on Wikipedia.

Walter Granger

This material is from my website at http://users.rcn.com/granger.nh.ultranet/

I am the owner, as well as Granger's biographer. Paleonet similarities are theirs...I've been copied and used MANY times........

I am the owner of http://users.rcn.com/granger.nh.ultranet/ as well as all material therein, or copied therefrom.

you paleo-net cite, Zoe -- "The Granger Papers Project

http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~granger/

Many of the worlds most famous dinosaur and fossil mammal skeletons were collected by Walter Granger (1872-1941), a vertebrate paleontologist who worked for Henry Fairfield Osborn at the American Museum of Natural History. Granger collected in the American West, the Fayum depression in Egypt, and in Mongolia. The site contains photographs, papers, and biographical information."

Where's the problem......THEY CITE ME!

New Village

I try to write as not political bias as possible. But if you see any, please point it out to me. --L joo 01:10, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

'Commies'? OK I see.

Julesburg

I recently made changes to the Julesburg page. You said the additions were nonsense. I am a native of Julesburg, and have lived there all my life. For you to say these things are nonsense is absurd. Do you know the town of Julesburg? Have you been there, and met the community? Can you please verify that the additions made were untrue, or, as you say, nonsense?

This is what Wikipedia is all about. People who have specific information about specific topics can make changes to the things they know about. I was in the process of making changes to the very plain Julesburg article to give it some specific information. I would like to make further additions. But I can't do this as long as you are deleting my additions.

As you can see Zoe was just removing vandalism. Unfounded complaint =D --mboverload@ 01:34, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:DVDs-On-The-Run-Logo.jpg

Yes it was, dear Zoe, tho he didn't upload it as a self-work at that time, but under a "with permission" tag and as such fell under I3, and I speedied after asking around a bit.

I'll take the opportunity to thank you for your kind message, dear Z - being noticed and approached with words as nice as those you said to me by people I've looked up to for months and months is something I still can't believe to be true :) Expect a more appropriate thanking message from me in the next hours - I'll go crazy, so many messages to reply, ahh! :) Please take good care, Z - I see you've been having a tough time lately, and it'll be my pleasure if I can help you in any way. Have a big hug, Phaedriel ♥ The Wiki Soundtrack!♪ - 01:50, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Bill Dakota

Hello, Zoe. Please remember WP:BITE--he's brand new here, I think he's an older guy who is completely unused to wikis, and I'd hate to see him driven off his first week here just because he doesn't understand the rules and he has a lot to say. You are, of course, correct that he's been making all sorts of inappropriate moves; I just think we'd do better to offer a helping hand to folks like that than to scream at them. I don't see any evidence that he's acting in bad faith, do you? BTfromLA 02:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm somewhat familiar with Dakota's history and his publications and writing style. His story and writing style here ring very true to me--given the obsurity of the publication, it would be quite a feat for somebody to pull this off as an impersonation. My guess is that somebody told him that there was an article about the Hollywood Star here, or maybe he found it on a Google search, and dropped in to check out the scene. A contentious claim about Nick Adams--man, who'd have expected Nick Adams to be at the center of impassioned exchanges in 2006? Anyway, I vote for giving Dakota the benefit of the doubt, at least for a while. BTfromLA 02:45, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Giving him the benefit of the doubt means assuming good faith, not biting the newcomers, and trying to help him to be a productive contributor (or, barring that, cutting him some slack.) I don't want to suggest that you just let grossly inappropriate edits pass without comment--but you have a choice as to whether your comments are supportive and offer suggestions of a better approach, or whether they are harsh denuciations. I'm lobbying in favor of the former approach. If he gets on your nerves, then maybe the best move is to back off a bit and let somebody else handle him for a while... unless there's nobody paying attention to the article, rambling first-person gossip won't stand for long. BTfromLA 02:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

TOS

"TOS" - Terms of Service... specifically rule #4 shown below

Respect other contributors. Wikipedia contributors come from many different countries and cultures, and have widely different views. Treating others with respect is key to collaborating effectively in building an encyclopedia.\

No content from previous contributors was deleted. Obviously I would expect the same courtesy.

I'd imagine you've surpassed the 3RR rule by deleting material that contradicts with your own beliefs.

My Page

I dont get it its my dog. Why cant I post bout her and her WWE career?

Guidance

Do you want me to continue removing these comments from the vandal? I don't know what your policy is about this. --mboverload@ 08:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

If you truly are unbiased...

Then please visit the Brigham Young wiki.

Every single sobriquet listed was an opinion given of his own church. Please also visit the talk page as well. (Young)

==I used to admire you when you were Ambi==

Have you changed personalities along with names? User:Zoe|(talk) 03:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC) LOL. Now the talk page is protected???

--Garrie 05:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Hess Deletion

Tom hess has toured internationally with his band Holyhell. THey have toured with bands such as Manowar, Rhapsody. Their "DEMONS, DRAGONS WARRIORS" world tour in 2006 (with Manowar) went to countries such as Germany, Czech Republic and Greece.

Fun with Zeraeph

Hiya Sandy,

Don't worry about the prob with Zeraeph - I'm her son and she is unfortunately mentally imbalanced herself.

She has a bit of a hate campaign going and it is now attracting international attention.

If you have any further probs let me know.

Kind Regards

Dani

I have blocked the above account indefinitely for posting personal information elsewhere. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 09:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

thanks, Zoe

Even though it was a trivial thing, I found the dicussion you left about a small problem I had a few months ago with PAWiki. It is nice to find out that even though my problem was not related to a huge event, and probably only emotionally driven, you took time to review it. Some of the text is below, along with my comments. Thank you.

Although I think that PAWiki was overzealous in deleting the Olympic medalist, the assertion of the marine fitness team's national championships really did need a link to something which verifies the claim. See WP:V for explanation of proofs of claims. I do think that PAWiki should have discussed it first, or at best, put a "citation needed" tag on the article before deleting completely. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Zoe. The Marty Nothstein article was a redlink, and I think it's within an editor's discretion to want an article, to establish notability. Your personal involvement with the team is really irrelevant to the article, except that it perhaps makes it a little harder for you to keep this issue in perspective. Obviously more discussion would have been good, but that wasn't a bad edit, and the edit summary was constructive and civil. I think you should try to calm down and realize no offense was intended, and there was nothing personal in the edit. · rodii · 02:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Understood. I did need to calm down, and more time and knowledge of the Wikipedia site has helped. I recently read an article about the creator of Wikipedia and how he wants more quality information and less quantity on the site. With that, I'll be sure to do proper research before submitting again. Thank you for your discussion, I'll contribute again sometime. -no longer a first time user

Tom Hess deletion review

Hello, your deletion of the Tom Hess article has been challenged. Maybe you want to chime in at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2006 August 8. ~ trialsanderrors 19:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Zoe, would you consider undeleting this? A quick google turns up plenty of mentions of his work, as a recording artist and teacher, see [16], [17], [18], etc. Friday (talk) 21:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

The Davy Jones picture I uploaded

Just so you know, all I did was upload it. I have no idea where it got uploaded to, nor am I responsible for that. I´m just a wikignome, so if it got involved where it shouldn´t of, other people should be spoken to about that. Thanks for your time. --ViceroyInterus 19:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

can you help?

zoe -

i'm trying to add content and am being restricted by you. nothing i've added is false in any way and i'm wondering what i need to do in order for you to leave it alone. can you please advise?

thanks. --BeParticipatory 20:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)rich

okay, thanks

zoe -

sorry for causing you any grief. my contributions were true and content-worthy, but i'll hold off until i'm able to meet more of wikipedia's criteria for additions.

thanks. --BeParticipatory 20:50, 8 August 2006 (UTC)rich

hahaha

you make a good point, my friend. and not only are you correct, but i hope that you're still editing content when that day comes along (in the near future) that somebody says to you: "hey, we really gotta get an article up there about this guy."

then you'll be able to say: "you know, i remember him from back when he was just getting started, and i had to unpost his stuff because i didn't know who he was. i feel bad about that now, but at least i've seen the light. at least i know he's not a liar. damn, i had the chance to get alicia's number from him too! i should've done that. not that he'd be giving it out, of course, but you never know... maybe i can add some extra cool content to his article and he'll send me lakers tickets as a thank-you. maybe he'll cast me in a cool role in one of his movies. maybe he still remembers who i am. what do you think?"

"dude, i was just saying we should put an article up about him."

that sculptor

I don't understand. Somebody writes an article on a minor sculptor and it is speedied as unnotable. The editor complains in good faith on AN. I see no reason to discuss it with the deleting admin, who I assume wasn't paying attention. I see this as a case of not biting the newbies: the author was frustrated that his good faith (not vanity!) contribution was deleted without as much as a note to his talkpage. I know Wikipedia has a pop-culture bias, nobody would dream of speedying articles on minor cartoon characters, but god forbid someone attempt to write about a minor artist. References are cited, and I don't see this as a clear case. Stifler should have put it on Afd, and it will do no harm to sit out its week there even if the subject is after all totally unnotable, or even a hoax. You can delete it again, I suppose, if you are so convinced of its unnotability, I certainly won't wheel-are about it. dab (ᛏ) 22:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

blocking

I NEVER DID ANYTHING PLEASE STOP BLOCKING ME PLEASE?!?!?!?!?

Barbara Schwarz

I know I jumped in here - so I was expecting some criticism - just wondering if you find my views on trying to get the article to stick closely to reliable sources and verification for all negative claims is out of line. thx in adv --Trödel 04:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hindi films and plagiarism

Your WP:PROD tag on this has been removed after someone added a few sources. While I would still support the deletion of the article in its current state, I'm hoping to replace the article with a better-sourced rewrite along the lines of Films considered the worst ever later today, once I've incorporated all the sourced entries into it. So if you were thinking of sending it to AfD, I'd appreciate it if you held off until then. (I've made a similar post on User talk:Cfred, who endorsed the PROD.) --Sam Blanning^(talk) 15:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, if you think you can make it into a decent article, then please go for it. Let me know when you think you've finished. User:Zoe|(talk) 01:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I made the edit yesterday, actually. I'd be glad to know what you think of it now. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 09:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks pretty good! User:Zoe|(talk) 00:42, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Block of 62.66.225.5

I'm not sure how my bot managed to log itself out of its account, but as it's already registered as User:WeggeBot, there should be no need to keep the block. -- Wegge 22:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Connor Barrett

Hi, Given how much the article has changed, are you still in favour of deleting it? Regards, Ben Aveling 03:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

VP

It is ok to remove a personal attack. Show me a word in your post that would concern the proposal. Anyway, you are free to block me at any time, Azmoc is still blocked and I am technically evading the block by using my old username. Have fun. Ackoz 11:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_August_10#.5B.5BStar_Wars_Galaxies_Emulator.5D.5D

What you seem to be forgetting is that the Star Wars Galaxies Emulator is indeed a released product. Ameise -- chat 20:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:CSD violation

replied: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ADeletion_review%2FLog%2F2006_August_11&diff=69212422&oldid=69204585 Tobias Conradi (Talk) 14:27, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

From User talk:Poloyoe:

"You have been blocked for one week for this edit. Not only were you voting twice using two names, you were voting for a hoax user, which makes me wonder if the hoax user isn't you. User:Zoe|(talk) 19:45, 1 June 2006 (UTC)"

Pegasus1138 wasn't a hoax user...what did you mean by that? 1ne 02:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, OK. Thanks for clearing that up. :-) 1ne 06:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

User OneCyclone

Hi, Zoe, could you please check out this heading on my talkpage and let me know if you object to the suggestion I make to the user. Are there complications there that I don't know about? Bishonen | talk 17:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC).

User:ED209

• Zoe, as I'm sure you've noticed, the minute User:ED209 returned from his block, rather than cooling down he seems to be more aggressive than ever. I've personally had enough, and plan to create a WP:RFC/U. As someone who has tried to address this dispute in the past, will you be willing to certify the dispute as is necessary? -- pm_shef 23:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

• I am sorry that this was brought over to this talk page, however, I hope you will note the ongoing discussion at the Talk:Vaughan_municipal_election,_2006 and also check my contributions for all of the positive edits I have been able to make since being unbanned. My edits have added valuable information and I am committed to bettering wikipedia. ED209 00:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Kerrywayneburgess

User:Kerrywayneburgess has not recreated the offending article since it was last deleted; not since your second warning. Definitely should be kept an eye on. Do you think it is appropriate to protect the offending page from recreation? — ERcheck (talk) 01:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

• I protected the page. (This was my first page protection. I'd appreciate it if you would double check to be sure I used the proper templates and logged it properly. Thanks.) — ERcheck (talk) 02:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

im going to fixed this problem but Night Of A 1000 Cats is not a 2002 film is a 2007 film a remake

Your comments please

Here's another. See User:Aberon Jones. He's been recreating an article that started out as a bio with some attached original fiction. He continues to recreate it, though this time just the story.

I just noticed that on his user page, he claims copyright and threatens legal action. I've put various warnings on his talk page.

Your opinion?

Thanks ... — ERcheck (talk) 03:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

well i saw on the television show Ventaniando from azteca america that the remake from the 1974 film was going to be released on 2007

And imdb know everything i dont think so

yeah i saw the actor on the television shoe Los 10 Mas Pedidos with Nicole Hewitt

well i think i post that since he was considered for the movie but if its no well its ok

like i said the actor Martin Hrnandez was on the show Los 10 mas pedidos he also won a mexican award

Neutral Tones

Sorry. My tone was intended to be sincere on AN/I. I think you're probably right that the guy is going to turn to toast in moments left to his own devices. I was just objecting to the two speedy deletes and a warning of an indefinite block for not seeing the message not to recreate them. It's not really that that would get the guy tossed as much as his worldview's reliance on alternative truths. I have not yet seen a fringe military conspiracist turn out well. The Mr. Burns "Three Stooges Syndrome" (where all the germs are blocking the doorway, so none can kill him) works with some of the unusual editors, but I've never seen the "spies are everywhere" people manage to slap each other away. They tend, rather, to convert each other and thicken their dossiers of government coverups, which sets them apart from the yogis, aliens, and 9/11 conspiracists -- each of which has to possess a truth that is exclusive of the others. Geogre 03:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Night Of A 1000 Cats

I've updated this one with the IMDB information about the actual 1972 film. (Anjanette Comer would have been 63 by 2002.) It was a strange mix of info from the original film mixed with the hoax info. Fan-1967 04:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

My guess would be that Homie's about 13, and his name is, oh, maybe, Martin. Fan-1967 04:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

wmarsh

Errr, wmarsh is trying to reach you. He is having some difficulty with that, since it seems like you accidentally blocked him?

Kim Bruning 01:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) - Wmarsh fixed whatever was wrong with his bot, and (per his request in IRC) I have unblocked him and the bot. Raul654 01:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank You very much from Aberon Jones

Hey thank you for correcting my mistakes. I am a new user so I didn't really know. Well thanks. Please return the message I am Aberon Jones and I hope that I already chaged those legal threats please check it out again. I would like to ask someone to erase the Dawn of War (JCYJ seires) becuase I admit that I was stobborn so please erase it. I've tried to correct my mistakes and I owe it to you. SO THANK YOU ZOE!!!Aberon Jones 01:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

warning to Quill E. Coyote

Zoe, what was this test4 vandalism warning for?--Kchase T 23:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

He's trolling on Consumed Crustacean's RfA page and being uncivil in the process, and has repeatedly vandalized the RfA by unstriking an illegitimate vote. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I know, but he seems to have stopped. I'm worried the warning might have the effect of either inciting him or starting his trolling again.--Kchase T 23:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Except for an inappropriate edit to another User's User page, his last edit was:

I warned Consumed Crustacean in compliance with WP:Vandalism, and don't see what else I was supposed to do. Quill E. Coyote 08:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

How is that "stopping"? User:Zoe|(talk) 23:42, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, the warning was removed by another admin and he hasn't edited yet. OK, I didn't mean to start an argument with you. I'm not going to remove the warning you placed, though I'd suggest you consider it. I'll leave it at that.--Kchase T 23:44, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll remove it, but if he continues his trolling, it's going back on, okay? User:Zoe|(talk) 23:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I refactored here. Thanks for reconsidering. I think your compromise is a good one.--Kchase T 23:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Fasudil

I wrote that article.

Smosh

The Smosh article doesn't need cleanup, and if it does could you be more specific with the tag? We just finished with the overhaul and we'd really like to know what's up. --Ngard039 17:16, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Re; User:Deuterium

Thanks for your assistance with posting on ANI. Much appreciated. (→Netscott) 02:22, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Indeed he was. Thanks again. (→Netscott) 02:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Please read about WP:Fair use thanks —Mineralè 2006-08-18 02:34Z

IF that is your rationale, I welcome you to delete the Clearly copyrighted AP photo Image:WW2 Iwo Jima flag raising.jpg or maybe Image:Time Cover Abramoff.jpg . (Keep in mind that permission does not matter when claiming fair use, even if the publishere were to specifically deny wikipedia the right to do so). For an Admin I was shocket to find out how poorly informed you were on the subject matter of fair use —Mineralè 2006-08-18 02:41Z

Just for you I pulled some more you could tag for deletion: —Mineralè 2006-08-18 02:48Z

• Image:08-muhammad-court-inside.jpg
• Image:1-02richmag cover story.jpg
• Image:2004gopconventionmiller.jpg
• Image:Abdulaziz al-omari alive.jpg (apfn photo)

Theatrics aside, please print a copy and carefully read WP:Fair use it's inexcusable for an admin not to know this. I noticed you have not uploaded a single image, please note some of us are actually trying to build a wikipedia, not just play whack a vandal MMPORG.—Mineralè 2006-08-18 02:51Z

About the iconicity of the photo, the articles about the sniper shootings do not revolve around Muhammad's court picture, Image:08-muhammad-court-inside.jpg thus it's not iconic? This photo is plastered on USA TODAY, AJC, CNN, MSNBC on the front page today, if that's not iconic, what is?

Sir, are you making a threat against me? What attack are you referring to? I see that as a direct threat from an admin —Mineralè 2006-08-18 02:57Z

Midquel deletion.

Thanks for bringing the change to my attention regarding the AfD for this page. --Cassavau 03:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Too slow.

You keep deleting things while I'm marking them for deletion. You should get an award for prescient administration. But dang it is frustrating :) --Cassavau 04:42, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pablo Pérez Gay Rossbach

Zoe, re this, what happened to your sense of humour ? We call that sarcasm :-) Tintin (talk) 04:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Mate,

Surely you understand sarcastic comments. And even if it were taken seriously, the only way you can pin vandalism on me is through the Bad Jokes angle. So please, revert your earlier comments on my talk page. I don't want people to think I am a petty vandal.

--Ageo020 11:36, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, That vote is my opinion. It cannot under any circumstances be considered vandalism. --Ageo020 00:45, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Marion Jones

Zoe,

I got a message from you saying I vandalized a page. I want to justify what I put, and assert that there was a qualifier (alleged) in what I wrote. Marion Jones is one of the top 3 uncaught (until today) drug cheats in the world. Most peope invested in the sport will assert that the other two undetected, but much suspected athletes are Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds. The statement that I put in "Alleged drug cheat (1992, 2006, Balco 2003)" is relevant in light of the news of her failed drug test today (8/18/2006). The testing occurred last month in Indianapolis at the USATF championships. She failed a test, and will remain an alleged drug cheat until the B Sample comes back. If that test turns up positive; she will be a convicted drug cheat.

v/r

NEM

FUCK OFF. I AM NOT ATTACKING ANYONE. You need to really chill out.

asl?

Did you email me?

Are you the Zoe that responded to my unblock request and stated the following: "Dionyseus is an ongoing edit warrior and violator of NPA. And I would love to learn how a non-admin attempted to "protect" a page." ?

If so, I would like to point out that I am not an edit warrior, I have never violated the NPA, and I have never ever attempted to protect a page. If you have any evidence to the contrary, please do provide it. I'd also like to point out that I was unblocked almost immediately, and the unblocking administrator said Philwelch's block was highly inappropiate. [19]

I'd also like to point out that many editors have found Philwelch's actions to be clearly inappropiate and an abuse of his powers. Please review the AN/I report and his archived user talkpage. [20] [21]

However, if you are not the Zoe that emailed these unwarranted claims against me, please delete this section. Dionyseus 20:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I am indeed that Zoe, and I stand by what I said. User:Zoe|(talk) 20:59, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Please provide evidence that I am an "edit warrior", a violator of the NPA, and that I attempted to protect a page. Otherwise these are false accusations and I would like an apology. Dionyseus 21:02, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Evidence of your edit warring can be found at WP:ANI#The Inquirer and User:Dionyseus. Evidence of your violation of NPA can be found in the history of your User page, which was blanked because of the attacks on the page. And you yourself said in the email you made to the Unblock mailing list that you attempted to protect the page. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:10, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow, you know what? I made a mistake on the NPA, and I apologize for that. I had that part of the problem mixed up with someone else. But I stand by the rest of it. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I have corrected my misstatement about NPA on the mailing list. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

You also made a clear mistake on the "edit warring". Please read the AN/I report in its entirity, it was found to be completely illegitimate, as well as his 3RR report, Jgp himself removed the request. [22] [23] As for "protecting" the page, what I meant was that I was attempting to protect the page from blanking by reverting Philwelch's unwarranted redirect (he did not have concensus to redirect), I did not mean I placed a protect tag. I did one revert each on the Aaron Doral page and on the Brother Cavil page: [24] [25] As you can see, I did not place protect tags, I simply reverted his blanking. Dionyseus 21:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I received your email with your apology about your mistake about the NPA claim, and while I appreciate your apology for that unwarranted claim, you still have not responded to my statement that your "edit warrior" claim and "non-admin attempting to protect a page" claims were wrong as well, as can be clearly seen in the links I've provided in my previous post. Dionyseus 22:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I am still awaiting your response. Dionyseus 04:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

User talk:ΤЯölL ΡЕñìŞ

Could you get my edit back because you just blanked it from the previous contributor (it was not me), not reverted it? Thanks. --Bigtop 21:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

RAMA copyright

We rewrote the text. I am not sure if there is any copyright violation. Check it out.

Russian american medical association

May I ask then, which version were you mentioning? This is the one I tagged: [26] –- kungming·2 | ^(Talk·^Contact) 00:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay then, I've looked over the article and I believe the version that the contributor is working on this time is fine - no copyright problems, now. Thanks! –- kungming·2 | ^(Talk·^Contact) 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Images at {{WP:CP]]

Hi, I am a new admin and have found myself helping with the backlog at WP:CP. While I find most article text cases to be pretty clearcut, I am struggling with images. Yanksox suggested you might be able to toss some advice my way. If an image is copyrighted and there is no fair use rationale, does it usually get deleted? --Aguerriero (talk) 02:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom

Sorry for your being pulled into this, but you're named as an involved party. It'shere. rootology (T) 00:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Y'know, I have to take offense to this outside comment you left concerning me. I have over 6500 edits here. I've never once attempted to turn this into Encyclopedia Dramatica, nor would I ever want to. Furthermore, I hadn't seriously edited at ED for nearly 8 months prior to the MONGO blowup, nor have i harassed MONGO ever, nor since I got here (as I got here in February of 2005, less than 2 weeks after MONGO for the record). Just because I dare to call MONGO out on inappropriate actions concerning an article about a site that had a beef with him doesn't mean I ever dealt with him before or after the fact. In other words, I had nothing to do with it, and have not done any of what you allege. The statement is completely untrue, and I'd appreciate it if you adjusted it as such. --badlydrawnjeff talk 02:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused

I'm attempting to create a page for the podcast coasterradio.com. A very similar podcast, Inside the Magic, has a page. Could you please explain why it's been deleted?

Coastermom Coastermom 03:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Article Bertrand Russell for deletion

We have nearly 20 articles for deletion - So why is this different? Have you checked the links that I inserted for reference? --Hari Singh 04:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I will not let your threat decide what actions I take. Wikipedia is not my life - It may be yours. If it makes you happy - block me now. May be that gives you a kick! My world does not revolve around this site. I have lots of others things to do in life rather than waste it glued to Wikipedia! Your actions show how mature a person you are. Many thanks for your kind attention and please have a nice day on me. --Hari Singh 04:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

question

I asked Tony if this was alright (since I'd never done an ArbCom) and he said yes. In regard to your outside statement... if you review my history, I'd actually never even had any contact with him or ED stuff on Wikipedia until 7/18/06... and I'd been around since October 05. rootology (T) 04:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

No offence

But what the hell does Wiki Voter have to do with adminship..... RFA is not a place to express POINTS and RFA isn't political it's about proving someone won't screw up with a tool. Would you mind explaining your vote -- Tawker 04:16, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

But still, what does it have to do with adminship. It seems more that you are trying to make a POINT about vote counting in AfD (which Wiki Voter has a strong disclaimer about) rather than the actual RfA process of would the user screw up if given the tools -- Tawker 04:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

But isn't that assuming bad faith. Did you not consider the possibility that the application would be used for detecting duplicate arguments in RfA's etc. Isn't assuming that one will close AfD's based on a simple vote count a little off. Just because a tool is made and has the possibility to do something does not mean it will be used for that purpose. The US has WMD but does that mean that cities will be bombed on the whim of the President. After all, it's a learning curve and it might have it's use, you can't assume it would be used to harm the project -- Tawker 04:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I have no interest in this specifically, I only noticed what looked like assuming bad faith to me and I figured that someone who in good faith released a tool that might have some marginal benefit shouldn't have to take crap for trying to be useful -- Tawker 05:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I am quite curious as to whether you have used the program. I thought I'd take a look at WikiVoter due to the comments on Eagle's RfA, and I must say, I don't see anything that stifles the discussion aspect. I can guarantee you that there are plenty of AfD !voters who briefly scan over the page and don't do Google searches or anything like that, and end up just saying per nom or per above. With the big box available to enter a discussion comment, you can't possibly say per nom; it would just feel so wrong. The vote count really does not have anything to do with simple bean counting, but rather showing how discussion is going. I don't normally participate in landslide AfDs, so the program would allow me to skip over those and instead quickly get to the ones that are more closely contested. I'm not trying to get you to change your vote, but rather change your perception about (or look more closely at) WikiVoter; it's not as bad as you say it is. And by the way, that quick-revert should really only be vandalism. -- tariqabjotu 05:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I hope we can put this behind us, upon review my actions were likely not the best choice and I regret as such. I'm just letting DRV do whatever they want, I'm out of town next week so I'm not touching it in any way shape or form anyways (but that's besides the point). feel free to do whatever you feel is best there. In either case, I hope we can use that "shiny look into the eye mess your memory thing from Men in Black" to strip our memories and move on :) -- Tawker 17:58, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Admin Academy

I am going to propose a training academy for prospective admins. This will not change the RfA process. Your thoughts? Geo. 04:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I am just proposing it, I will not run it because my proposal will require a checkuser as coordinator . Geo. 04:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I would like to report your actions to a higher authority

I would like to report your actions to a higher authority. Could you please direct me to where this can be done. Many thanks. --Hari Singh 04:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Many Thanks --Hari Singh 04:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Zoe. Just take it easy and relax and don't worry too much about this. Back in March the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bhai Makhan Shah got defused pretty quickly after some improvements were made to the article. No need to talk blocks I feel. I'm confident the same can be achieved here. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 05:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

It'll be fine. I've told him I can help him quietly and not to do any POINT AfDs. Don't worry.Blnguyen | rant-line 05:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

deleting article without a good reason

Roberta Wenocur Why should this article be deleted? There are very few women in mathematics, statistics, and the science. Roberta Wenocur's work is cited worldwide in VC-theory and empirical processes. All her publications listed are verifiable. She is still currently doing research. Why the sudden problem with this article???

why delete on verifiable article?

Roberta Wenocur is a well-known mathematician and statistician who is now working in arts related to mathematics. Why the suggestion to delete? Please reply. We women in mathematics, statistics, and science are unsung, underpaid, and mistreated. Why remove bios from Wikipedia? Life is hard enough for us. Check Dr. Wenocur's publications, affiliations, etc., and you will find all verifiable. Please do not wipe out the few other living women in mathematics, either. Elaine Zanutto's bio was almost deleted, too, but so far is safe. We need more articles, not fewer. We have people like the president of Harvard claiming "women cannot do math and science". He is wrong. MathStatWoman 16:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Shower Curtain Avenger article

How is writting about a college legend / inside joke for over 500 people considered nonesense? I understand that it only applies to the small population of SUNY: New Paltz students, but it's rediculous that you took it off. It took me a really long time to write that. Can you please explain your actions?

Get a load of this...

I was going to post the following on the John Mark Karr talk page, but I changed my mind and thought to show it to you instead and get input from you. Is there any administrative action for this?
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Examine this carefully and you draw your own conclusion- don't make me say it. hehe
http://h1.ripway.com/mdoc/wiki-screenshot.mht

Mdoc7 10:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of admin noticeboard post

Hello Zoe, I am writing in response to your deletion of my admin noticeboard post. I would like to provide some clarification on why I posted there and why I believe it was appropriate. First, I'd like to establish that we are not spammers but an established research institution with a strong track record of high-quality publications, and we are conducting a survey on conflict in Wikipedia which many users (both admin and non-admin) have participated in and found to be valuable. We have already begun to contribute back to the community by posting preliminary results of our first study.

Our second survey targets admin users. Originally we started putting requests on a randomly selected group of admin talk pages, but While we had only positive responses to this in our first survey this approach was met with some concern by the admins. We were specifically told to instead post to the admin noticeboard, which is what I did. I understand you probably did not have this context when deleting what may have appeared to be a spam post, but I hope that you may change your mind about the appropriateness of the post given this information. Your help in resolving this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Parc wiki researcher 17:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

• Another issue you may not have been initially aware of, from the edit log on the admin noticeboard you can see that I did not re-post the notice to the board after your deletion; this was done by a fellow admin on their own.

Hey Zoe, I know you quoted No role accounts on that users talk page but surely in this case WP:IAR can apply. The user has made no article edits and is here in an attempt to do some valid research (I personally have found the results to be quite interesting). Maybe they should have approached the foundation first - but they didnt, however I only see well meaning and useful research that may evantually be useful. Of ocurse if they starting making substantial article edits that would of course be a different matter but so far... --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 08:50, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Smosh Cleanup

There's other articles that call the subject by their first name Kimbo_Slice, do they all need the cleanup stamp? --Ngard039 14:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Get a load of this...

No, I have not talked with him about it previously, but I let him know about it with a link to the screenshot on his talk page. And I won't report it formally. Thanks Mdoc7 18:07, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

MathStatWoman

As you noted on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roberta Wenocur page, User:MxM Peace was found to be a sock of User:Ksingh20. Ksingh20 also recreated Elaine Louise Zanutto with the text from previously-speedied Elaine Zanutto, which he presumably must have got from MathStatWoman, which (assuming they aren't just her bouncing off a London IP) is meatpuppetry or logrolling in any case. Ksingh20 is a new account as well, and presumably there is someone else behind or encouraging him. There is an interesting intersection point at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SGGS on Meat and a posting from an established user to MathStatWoman (here). Hopefully this will all go away once the various AfDs close, but if her behaviour continues like this admin action or an RfC may be needed. - David Oberst 00:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk page header

I deleted the Mr. Zoe section header on this talk page because for many users with default TOC settings, it means that they have to scroll down (a long way) to see the "leave a message" notice and the archives link. Revert if this is not to your taste, but I think it would be welcome to many users. (|-- UlTiMuS 02:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Justin_Bonomo

Hi,

You recently voted to 'speedy keep close' the Justin Bonomo citing a lack of verifiability and reliable sources. However, there has been much discussion on the deletion review of just how many reliable sources there are that would allow us to make a decent, verifiable article. Perhaps you should reread the review and consider modifying your vote, since your reasoning seems to suggest that you'd want to keep this particular article. Love, Coyote (t) 04:00, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Smosh cleanup

Listen, I can't find anywhere where it says I have to call them by their last names. I'm going to remove the cleanup stamp for now but if you can find the policies that say I have to change the names I'll put it back up. --Ngard039 12:45, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Zoe....I am building this page, starting with pictures first, then dialogue...It will be a valuable addition to the understanding of the Art of Korean Pottery. This is a collection belonging to my father, that has never appeared to the piblic at large before. Please give it a chance. Thank You,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Dr. Mark Colaianni

Colaianni Korean Pottery Collection

Zoe....I am building this page, starting with pictures first, then dialogue...It will be a valuable addition to the understanding of the Art of Korean Pottery. This is a collection belonging to my father, that has never appeared to the piblic at large before. Please give it a chance. Thank You,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Dr. Mark Colaianni

enough

Yes, my IP is 64.48.78.35, 64.464.48.78.358.78.35

My name is Edwin Peterson.

I live on Jerome Street in Medford Massachusetts. I AM IN NO WAY ANONYMOUS! Like you are.

Will you please get Wikipedia out of my face? I'm trying to do some REAL RESEARCH!

Wikipedia is DRIVING ME INSANE!

Yes, my IP is 64.48.78.35.

I work at MIT. I have a humble, underappreciated, underpaid job. I need to do RESEARCH. I can't go on typing in -wikipedia at every search on Google. Please get your wikipedia out of my face!

You're really going to have to tell me what it is that you're talking about. I hae no control over Google's listings. User:Zoe|(talk) 05:13, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:In Memoriam

Hello Zoe.

In Memoriam is now a disambiguation page, so I was trying to blank the page Talk:In Memoriam (without edit summary though, my mistake!) Should we still keep the redirect to Talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.? Thanks for your attention. Korg (talk) 05:27, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm trying to do research

You have no control over Google's listings.

Google has no control over your listings.

This is brilliant. A pass-the-buck arrangement with no responsibility.

The mission of Wikipedia, as I understand it, is to 'make the Internet suck less'.

Yet whenever I try to do a superficial research on any topic, I get Wikipedia articles. Unless I type -wikipedia at every query.

I can't stand it any more. I need to be able to get to real information, by real experts, not people who have copied their information from the real websites, from the real scholars. I do a query, and there is the Wikipedia article, followed, perhaps three pages later, by the page the information was copied from. Usually incorrectly. Invariably incorrectly.

I don't know what to tell you. My job is impossible. Because of Wikipedia. Wikipedia, which is supposed to make the Internet suck less, but is making the Internet unusable.

How can people think they are contributing, by volunteering for Wikipedia? Every town in the USA has a supper for the homeless, every town has a shelter for battered women, every town has a philanthropy for abused children. How can anyone be so soulless as to 'contribute' to Wikipedia? Look at the volunteer listings in your local paper. Wikopedia is just a self-indulgence. A destructive self-indulgence. Give it up, and really help the world. I volunteer at St. Francis, A REAL VOLUNTEER contribution, not Wikipedia destructiveness.

Edwin Peterson 23 Jerome Street Medford, MA

and yes, IP 64.48.78.35, world.std.com 64.48.78.35!!!!!

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/MONGO

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/MONGO. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/MONGO/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/MONGO/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 (talk) 12:27, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Blocked with no way of contact (what the heck is this?)

Upon logging onto WikimediaCom, I got this message, quote:

Your user name or IP address has been blocked by WarX. The reason given is this: blanking questions about copyrights

You may contact WarX or one of the other administrators to discuss the block.

Note that you may not use the "email this user" feature unless you have a valid email address registered in your user preferences.

Your IP address is xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx [I removed it]. Please include this address in any queries you make.

unquote.

I cannot write to warx or to administrator to tell them that if I read this correctly, the question referred to is the one posed to me earlier by warx, and I answered it on his user page. I realized now that it may be the wrong page; it probably should be on the discussion page. No rookie tryin' to learn the ways of WikimediaCom should be blocked by some admin who is that blind. Stupid judgement.

And anyway, i didn't blank any questions about copyrights, whatever that means.

Can you help to resolve this?

His question was stupid, too, but I answered it anyway, before the block happened. You can tell him that, too. Mdoc7 15:03, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Artcicle deletion: Planet Sound

Hello.

Thanks for your message. I was just wondering if you could clarify something.

I was under the impression that the printing of the Planet Sound complete Top 50 was OK since the publication isn't available in print or on the internet and is also free (due to the nature of Teletext). I was therefore wondering what the situation was regarding the Top 50 of 2005 which is printed on the 'Planet Sound' page and has been up for some time.

Thank you.

Blocking

Nope, it's real enough, because it's on wikimedia commons, not wikipedia. And the problem's compounded by not being able to figure out how to contact anyone. Even my writing is blocked, I can't start a message, can't contact warx; and according to block log, I'm blocked for a month. I'd have to somehow tell that dufus that his question's already answered on the his user page, not his talk page, which is my mistake. I also remember now that I'd deleted his message to me after I'd answereed it. Mdoc7 19:29, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Block Work-around

Nope, no work around except to try to get on another computer, create a new account, go to that admin noticeboard (you mentioned) on wikimedia commons (I found it), and explain- tersely. But I didn't know wikipedia has its own upload facility. That's the work-around I'll use and I'll dump wikimedia commons, including warx.

I've already uploaded one image under GFDL. The evidence for the permissions is at wikimedia commons- do i need to send one for wikipedia, too? (If so, sheesh.  :) Mdoc7 20:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Nick Virgilio

Hi, I wish you had waited before cutting the article I just wrote. Why the severe edits? Gladmax 23:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Nick Virgilio

Hi, Sorry I snapped at you. I was about to add a lot of other info when you added your tag. I am done working on this, so if you wish, it's now up for rview. I cited the three websites from which I got my information at the bottom of the article. Gladmax 00:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry

I'm very new, and adjusting to everything; don't really know what to do if I think I fixed something. Xoreox

Thanks

Oh, I understand now. I think I fixed it up. Xoreox

SGGS on Meat

Hi, you suggested a complete re-write of the above article. I would appreciate if you could make a slightly more detailed suggestion on what else can be done to the article to make it more acceptable. As you will see, the article is about what the Sikh holy books (SGGS) has to say about the killing and eating of meat. So the advice given by the SGGS is fixed and cannot be changed. So, how do you suggest I re-write the article but stay true to the message being conveyed? Any suggestion would be most welcome. --Hari Singh 20:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your rapid reply - I have done a bit of work on the first 2 hymns. Any chance of a quick check to see if this is what you mean? Or I have got this wrong? --Hari Singh 21:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

If the SGGS says those things then I would be distorting the meaning by changing those words, would I? I feel that my job here is like that of a reporter, reporting on what the SGGS says. If it says "God will send you to hell if you do xyz" then surely I cannot change that to suit my views. I am just reporting the text as mentioned in the holy book, aren't I? My views on what is being said are not as important as the words used in the original text. Isn't my job to just get the message of the SGGS across so the world know what it has to say about this issue. I feel I may be missing a step or two here in my thinking? I feel by discussing this I may be able to clear this kink in my thinking. many thanks so far - I appreciate your help and a different angle on this issue. --Hari Singh 22:01, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help - I think I see what you mean. I will another go at the article when I have some free time and hopefully it will look better after that. I hope you don't mind if I contact you then to see what you think. Thanks again. --Hari Singh 22:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

That's great!! - a little talk goes a long way - Thanks again and we will speak again soon. Better get some sleep - it nearly midnight, so Goodnight, Zoe and you have a great time in whatever you do! --Hari Singh 22:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow, you have a long talkpage...

Anyway, his userpage allows anyone to edit-or, in most cases, mess with-it. If you'll take a look at it, you'll see it's... well, anarchy. --172.191.173.240 22:08, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding this revert, that is. He has a message that says specifically anyone is allowed to edit (aka vandalize) the page. It's like one of those vandalizm boxes, only bigger. --172.191.173.240 22:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Whoops. I had new messages after I saved that. :) --172.191.173.240 22:13, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

why?

well if you were watching mtv right now they were talking about wikipedia and if waxing the puppy was on it!

How dare you!!!!

I was simply putting the word out there.

afd hezbollah manifesto

why afd this article? i'm just starting to work on it and the information is not covered elsewhere in wikipedia and hard to find in general. Elizmr 22:39, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I am going to make the page a subpage on my user page until it is more ready for prime time. Elizmr 23:51, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Please let me know if that is ok. Elizmr 23:51, 28 August 2006 (UTC) OK, I did it. I took the afd tag off. Should I put the tag back on when I get ready to move it back to the main space? Let me know. Elizmr 00:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Grapefruit Seed Extract - Factual Error

The article on grapefruit seed extract is a well written LIE. Check the history on GSE and read the previous version to help with the correct info. Please contact wikipedia to review both versions to find out which one is accurrate. I understand you are not familiar with the facts. Please HELP by reviewing the facts. Thank you for all your help.

"Grapefruit Seed Extract" >>> Vandalism<<<

Large portions of Grapefruit Seed Extract were reverting to the previous article. Why? Because the large portions of GSE are LIES. The studies confirmed GSE to have no significant microbial effect. Read your facts and references BEFORE you vandalize the GSE article again that I contributed my time to writing. Again, read the references before you revert back to large portions of LIES. Thanks in advance for your help in the future for setting the record straight with regard to Grapefruit Seed Extract. I have contacted Wikipedia about YOU!

Brick & Lace

Could you please take another look at the article Brick & Lace which you deleted recently? (You deleted two versions. I had made improvements on one, but I am not sure whether it was the first or second that you deleted.) I thought that I had added enough detail to the article to assert notability. I realize that many bands are not notable, but I thought that this one was. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 23:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

puking wikipedia messages at me

please do not vomit pre written messages at me. I am an individual and would like to be treated as such. Your message insulted me. I also am confused as often these messages do not directly address the issue. Also I am aware of the existance of sandbox and have been for some time.--Matt D 02:19, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Personal attacks?...???.. where? when? I think that things got uncivil when you started hurling threats at me--Matt D 02:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

request for immediate help

This is a request for immediate help from Kmaguir1 07:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC). If you have time, I'd like you to examine the Bell Hooks article and talk page. It's a scholarly article about a controversial writer, someone who drew the ire of a conservative commentator. They wanted me to go get the quote from her book, and I did that. But now, they're arguing it's not notable. As a fellow AfD frequenter, you will know that of all the meaningless academic trivia included on her page, that what they wanted to exclude was really ridiculous: that she says as an opening to her book, Killing Rage, "I am writing this essay sitting beside an anonymous white male that I long to murder". This may in itself be notable, but David Horowitz wrote about it in 100 Dangerous Professors, and it was written about on front page mag, and all the citations are given on the page. I would appreciate your help--I'm contending with some very difficult Marxists who are attached to her work.-Kmaguir1 07:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Here is information about Grapefruit Seed Extract ZOE does not want wikipedians to read!

Grapefruit seed extract (GSE), also known by grapefruit pulp extract, is a liquid derived from the seeds, pulp, and white membranes of grapefruit. This extract has been alleged by some practitioners of alternative medicine to possess antibacterial, antiviral, and anti-fungal properties. Indeed, it has been recommended by some nutritionists for the treatment of candidiasis, earache, throat infections, and diarrhea. An early proponent was Dr. Jacob Harich (1919–1996).

Anecdotal claims for an antimicrobial effect are supported by a small scientific literature which apparently demonstrate an antimicrobial effect in in vitro assays such as the agar diffusion test [1], [2], [3]. However, there is STRONG evidence that the anti-microbial activity associated with grapefruit seed extract is attributable to the contamination or adulteration of commercial GSE preparations with synthetic antimicrobials or preservatives. Independent studies have shown that commercial preparations contain the compound benzalkonium chloride, which is a synthetic antimicrobial commonly used in disinfectants and cleaning products, the related compound benzethonium chloride, the antibiotic triclosan, or the preservative methyl paraben [4], [5], [6]. Some samples were shown to contain up to 22% benzalkonium chloride by weight, despite the known allergenicity and toxicity of the compound at higher doses [7]. These chemicals were not present in grapefruit seed extracts prepared in the laboratory, and GSE preparations without the contaminants were found to possess no significant antimicrobial effect [8].

A study that examined the antiviral properties of GSE found that GSE had no efficacy as a disinfectant for feline calicivirus and feline parvovirus [9]

After careful analyzation, at this time, the efficacy of GSE as an antimicrobial is regarded as UNESTABLISHED.

Why YOU (ZOE) do not want wikipedians to know GSE is adulterated with synthetic antimicrobials??? Please explain miss!

What?

I use Wikipedia all the time, but I haven't vandalised any pages to my knowledge. Could you point me to what you're referring to and I'll check I didn't do anything I don't remember. Thanks

Grapefruit Seed Extract - Copyright Violations is Illegal!!!

Hello Agian Miss,

First of all you claimed I vandalized the article regarding GSE. WRONG! You VANDALIZED the article on GSE. I was REVERTING that article because it broke wikipedia's copyright rules. Go to yahoo search engine and type in Grapefruit Seed Extract and go to an article written by Judith Sims that is about # 16 on yahoo. This article was written back in 2001. The wikipedia user Devious pasted this information illegally onto wikipedia. And you (ZOE) reverted back to it once again, the copyrighted info. I have already proven the info is copyrighted. Check back in the history log of Grapefruit Seed Extract. It shows Devios is the one who broke the rules and you vandalized the article by reverting back to copyrighted info that does NOT belong on weikipedia's website. Now the copyrighted info is mixed on with the previous info. Since you are the one that vandalized the info which can be proven because YOU reverting back to the copyrighted information, you can go ahead and fix it. Large portions of the article were reverting by me because it is copyrighted. Please explain why you reverted to copyrighted info and accuse me of vandalism when you are the vandal which can be proven by the history log of the GSE article. Remember, you are the one who reverted to illegal copyrighted info. I consider that vandalism. You jumped to conclusions without understanding the facts. You ERASED the orginial content and replaced it with copyrighted illegal information.

Grapefruit seed extract Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine Written by Judith Sims http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g2603/is_0003/ai_2603000396

Compare the info form Judith Sims from the find articles website and compare the info Devios and Zoe revert to. The info Devios put on the website is copyrighted information. Putting or reverting to copyright info on wikipedia's website is VANDALISM!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grapefruit_seed_extract&oldid=72467578

>Compare Both<

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g2603/is_0003/ai_2603000396

I like to see you talk you way out of this one. I think not.

Notice how she will try to deflect attention away from herself!

The info Devios originally put in the Grapefruit Seed Extract article is copyright violation! Why?

Judith Sims wrote the article NOT Devios. I am sure you can take a look at the article and read the same sentences on wikipedia's website.

An open minded person learns and grows. A narrow minded person thinks, I already know.

Since you now the TRUTH about Devios and copyright rules, then you can right the wrong. Good Luck.

Drini and the CVU deletion

You, like so many other Wikipedians, seem to have felt that Drini's actions in the CVU deletion proccess were wholly inappropriate and did not follow policy. As a result, I'm forming an ad-hoc group of sorts composed of people interested in removing Drini. If you'd like to be involved, just drop me a note. ShortJason 20:33, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

That's a little unfair

To say that I'm not interested in a real discussion - I actually took the trouble in my reply to try to explain where I was coming from. Rentwa 02:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Empty stubs

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Confucius.

Mach 6

Every song is notable please see ozzmosis if you do not agree. Eventually extra information will be written by different editors. Andman8 02:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree that "every" song does not deserve an article but any song with wide notability does. Please do not persue a crusade to wipe out song stubs. There are thousands and it would be a big loss for wiki. I think the more knowledge the better. Besides, eventually as the song stub articles evolve someone will add a lyrics explanation/analysis or recording details, etc. Andman8 03:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I've justified myself the best I can. I can refer you to a similar situation with Kent-Meridian High School. It was an unimportant high school article with a few sentences explaining where it was/date founded/etc. An admin felt it wasn't important enough to be an article. A nomination for deletion was put up and after much deliberation it was decided all high schools are notable for just being high school. Your "speedy deletion" shouldn't happen until a nomination for deletion arguement has been completed.

You get my drift. Okay so finally. I like wiki, I contribute knowing there is no compensation and I really enjoy making obscure articles for things I am interested in. I can spend all night giving an analysis of the songs and various trivia but I would choose to spread that out over the course of a few months. Taking 5 AP classes I don't really have much time to contribute. So please leave my little articles alone. Andman8 03:12, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

"Speedy deletes" are hugely ufair RV back until a consensus is drawn. See Wikipedia:Proposed deletion Andman8 03:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll concede this one but that was still an hour and a half down the drain. Andman8 03:28, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Not an ad

Why can't you put Simple Freedom on there if you have Virgin, Sprint, Alltel, Ect.??

Un justified block

Please respond to my email.

I was warned and then I did nothing. YOu blocked me 5 hours later. Why?