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Please be careful

Hi, Zippy. We spoke a bit on the NPP discord server earlier today. It's great that you're enthusiastic about cleaning up copyright issues. But I was looking at the CCI case you've been working, and I'm worried that you're only putting the articles through earwig and accepting the results at face value. For example, you cleared the article Varmahlíð. However, the article contains copyright violations from the cited web source. I'll clear them up tomorrow, if I can. I don't have the right to ask you to stay away from copyright cleanup, and nor do I want to, but please move slowly. I gave you the link to WP:NOTEARWIG earlier, but I really need to know now that you've read it. And if you'd like an easier CCI, let me know. There's one I'm working on that basically seems to involve rewriting like 500 disambiguation pages. Stuff like that might be easier for you to start with. I'm one of the newer CCI editors, so I've been in your shoes- this area can take quite a lot of getting used to! Don't feel the need to rush things, especially when you're just starting out. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:56, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GreenLipstickLesbian - thanks for the message, could you direct me to the easier ones that would be a better starting point for me to learn the status quo's etc. I do intend to become a more active contributor in that area, but I'm not super confident with CCI atp so an easier starting point would be nice :) Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 08:30, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Learning the status quo is much less important than learning how to do the job, and learning how to do the job properly.

Right now, if you just wants a lot of experience, go to page 7 or 8 of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Werldwayd, look for edits they made to disambiguation pages, and then rewrite the disambiguation pages to be policy compliant. Werldwayd created disambiguation pages by copy pasting the first sentence from a subject's article into the entry, but without following the CWW rules. You can solve this in two ways: by WP:RIA, or by treating them as any other copyright violation and removing the text. Due to the fact that disambiguation pages are meant to list the bare minimum about of information needed to identify a subject, go for the latter.

I'd also advise not marking any diffs as clean for your first few months. It's what I did, and it worked well for me. In fact, I still don't mark articles as clean until I am intimately familiar with a given case. I just make a note, then ask for a second opinion or come back at the end of a case and re-evaluate. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 19:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Still reading through this but just noting that by status quo I meant the general procedure. Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 19:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Moneytrees/Money's guide to CCI Sennecaster (Chat) 13:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Utstein Abbey was also marked as okay, but contained copyvio from Store norske leksikon on a page that didn't have its free license. There is very very few CCIs that are doable through sending every page through a google search and I would not advise looking for them. I also presumptively deleted Hjelme when you marked it as fine, because the content did not even remotely resemble any of the citations. Same with Delaware Colony. We cannot actually verify if something is free of infringement when there is no mention of the added content in the sources provided or found, so content that blatantly fails verification is usually presumptively removed. I've overwritten your checks with my own actions due to these errors.

I jumped straight into copyright as a brand new user practically, and I would've been much worse off if I didn't ask questions and go slow. Please go slow, and ask questions. The process is much more involved than shoving things into the copyvio detector. We want contributions, but rechecking is time consuming. If you're brand new to copyright cleanup, I highly recommend doing meta:CopyPatrol because it is a very streamlined form of cleanup that is mostly straightforward internet copypasting. However, not all of it is, so reviewing there gives you practice on nuance. There are also more eyes on CopyPatrol in general. Sennecaster (Chat) 14:05, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Admin election advice

Hi Zippybonzo, while looking through the admin election candidates, I saw your name. Your work reverting vandalism, copy-edting, and patrolling new pages is truly appreciated, so I am inclined to support later this month. However, it is my understanding that you have never created a mainspace article besides reverting an undiscussed move and draftifying unready articles. Similarly, you have never edited a mainspace article at least 10 times and mostly focus on minor copyediting. While these are valued efforts, I agree with User:Ritchie333/Why admins should create content that all candidates should have first-hand experience with content creation. I am not a stickler to the idea that admins should have at least 10K edits, but without significant article writing, this issue may sink your candidacy.

You are probably a specialist in at least one area that could have new articles created or existing articles improved, but if you want topic ideas, consider WP:WikiProject Women in Red/Redlist index, which lists redlinks for women deserving of articles sorted by various characteristics. Given the time between now and the start of discussion/voting, I think you still have an opportunity to really strengthen your candidacy! ViridianPenguin 🐧 ( 💬 ) 18:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ViridianPenguin, thanks for the message, I'll take a look at the women in red list because I didn't know the index existed, and it's something that might help me find topics to write about. Thanks for the heads up :) Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 19:57, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Autoimmune support club (11:18, 13 October 2024)

Can I create my own page? --Autoimmune support club (talk) 11:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Autoimmune support club, you can create a page as detailed in Help:Your first article, but writing about yourself is discouraged, see Wikipedia:Autobiographies. Thanks :) Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 06:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]