User talk:Veluhi

Hi Joy. I noticed you have replaced the previous map. With all due respect, this map does not accurately represent the Balkans. The map you appear to be endorsing is ambiguous in the sense that when one is interested in Macedonia, one is automatically given the impression that the only Macedonia that exists is that of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. I don't know how familiar you are with the region, but the greatest part of historical Macedonia lies within the Greek borders. It is where Philip, Alexander and their kin were born and where the former is burried. At no time in the history of the world has the capital of FYROM, Skopje been part of the historic kingdom we associate with Alexander the Great and the Hellenistic empire. It is therefore, by all standards, a distortion of history to monopolise and apply a name so important to a tiny area which was in fact inhabited by Paeonians. This is why I personally disagree with the map and it is why I thought it proper to be replaced by something that clearly implies the 'difference' to which I am referring. Having said that I must also make it clear that I am not denying the identity of the Macedonians who live in FYROM. In my opinion they are Macedonians, due to their proximity to the region and of course their historic ties. However they are in no way related to the historical Macedonians of Alexander as they are culturally, linguistically and historically disconnected from that era. They in fact arrived in the region in the 6th century AD and belong to the Slavic group of peoples. Therefore, not only is the unilateral use of the name an error, but it also constitutes a blatant appropriation of another nation's history. I don't know what your affinity is with the region, but please investigate what I have told you. I don't expect you to accept it - I am urging you however to look into it deeper. Certainly, history is subjective and is written from the perspective of each historian. However we have a duty to safeguard it against appropriations which threaten a culture's identity. Regards, Veluhi

Greece does not border the Republic of Macedonia - it borders the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia

We have a duty to safeguard history. It is unacceptable that historical distortions are perpetuated in such a blatant manner. It is common knowledge to all those who have knowledge on this issue, that Greece and the FYROM are locked in a disagreement on the name of this state (FYROM). As a result and according to the United Nations, the provisional name FYROM (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) is to be used until such time that the two parties agree on a name that is mutually acceptable. Wikipedia of course being as big as it is, unfortunately shows how little regard it has for historical integrity and historical veracity by allowing anybody to say anything. Most great historians on this issue are American, German and British - I won't include any of the eminent Greeks for fear of being called nationalistic and chauvinistic and everything else. These great historians would all disagree with what is published here in Wikipedia for the young generation to source. Wikipedia however and its legions of 'historians' are responsible for disseminating misinformation and of course contributing to the antagonisms in the world. I cannot understand why you so blatantly allow such things to be written in articles that our young generation use in school? If you don't tell the truth where are they going to get it from? Of course I can go on forever and ever. I hope you reconsider this appellation as it is erroneous and unfair. I'm not saying that these people don't have a claim to the name Macedonia and that they should not, in some form, use it. However I am against this rude monopoly and the way in which the so-called civilised world sits back and allows other people's heritage to be appropriated. Moreover, Wikipedia with all its influence. Veluhi

September 2013

Your recent editing history at Greek Civil War shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 05:02, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Macedonia naming dispute sanctions information

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please do not edit-war over the terminology used to refer to Macedonia, as you did at Greece. Wikipedia editors have developed a binding consensus guideline on how to refer to the country, outlined at WP:NCMAC. This is based on the policy of using the most common name generally used in English to refer a country, and/or the name that a country chooses to use for itself, no matter if these names are politically acceptable to third parties (see the naming-conflict guideline). The Arbitration Committee has decided that all edits affecting the Macedonia naming issue are subject to a one-revert restriction: no editor is allowed to undo another editor's action more than once within 24 hours. In cases covered by the binding guideline, editors restoring the consensus version are not subject to this restriction.

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In a 2007 arbitration case, administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user editing Balkans-related articles in a disruptive way. If you engage in further inappropriate behaviour in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article/topic ban. Thank you.--Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 05:08, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Costa. I sent you a polite notice asking you why you constantly insist on reversing the map to one that says 'MAC' i.e. Macedonia. Please take the time to explain why you are insisting or replacing it when the map that was previously there was reflecting the current situation in the Balkans. The previous map clearly states that the country to the north of Greece, in the region of Vardar Macedonia is currently and provisionally referred to as FYROM (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia). This is a fact. I can only assume that you are personally taking offense to this. However this is the provisional, UN name. To put anything else other than that, at the moment, is misleading. Regards, Veluhi