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Hi Utcursch! The information you mention in Rastogi page is wrong! Perhaps you must contact the person yourself and try to get information about citizenship! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.164.227.31 (talk) 13:33, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Ok I understand not to add my opinion :) but everyone must think the same as me innit? :)

Hello utcursh ji, I am follower of sant Rampalji maharaj.

Gitesh Das — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gitesh83 (talk • contribs) 08:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello utcursh bhai

I am one of the followers know sant Rampalji. 1 questions for you : Do you know them nearly? ?

If you are Hindu you must read Geeta 1st

Then compare with knowledge of sant Rampalji

You are not knowing them

Bhai duniya buri he is karana vecase me fase he .; unka ashram us jagah par he jaha par charo or unke virodhi he

Jab 2013 me ak din arya samaj valo ne karotha ashram par hamala kiya tab police ne firing ki or 3 ki death huvi jo paper me bhi aya tha

Uska arop sant Rampalji par dala gaya jo barwala me the naki karotha me

Tab me bahot dar gaya tha bahot yani bahot dar gaya tha ki ab unhe jail me dal diya jay ga

Par us rat vo mere dream me aye or ak avaj sunay di " Tumhare Guru Purna Bhrahma Kabirdev He Unhe Kuchh Nahi Hoga"

Or bahot log he jinhe Kabir saheb ke rup me darshan diye he

Bhai jo bhi likho soch samaj kar likhana

Or sachchay ku chanbin kar lena — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sat3171 (talk • contribs) 13:53, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Spammer you reverted

At [1] - taken to ANI before I saw this, thanks for spotting it. Adding copyvio from English language sources and then patrika.com as a fake source (as often doesn't contain all the details). Clear COI although outing is bad. Dougweller (talk) 14:13, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

OTRS permission templates

Hi, Utcursch. :) Thanks for handling the permission for Richard W. Suscha. I noticed when processing the listing at WP:CP, however, that you used the template for media ({{OTRS permission}}). The one for text is different - {{ConfirmationOTRS}}. It makes a pretty big difference because the image permission tag assumes that the source and the license are identified on the file page. :) With text, we have to identify both. I've corrected it, but wanted to point out the difference for future reference! Thanks again. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it! utcursch | talk 13:39, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

OTRS permission templates on Commons

Utcursch, You have added several c:template:Permission OTRS to images on Commons. However instead of adding permission to the page you replaced the content of the page and license with OTRS template, see this example edit. I will clean it up, but please be careful since many files without license are being deleted from Commons with little time spent on research related to the causes. --Jarekt (talk) 12:16, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

File:Highhazelsband2014.jpg

Thanks for helping out on OTRS. Could you make sure that when you accept permissions, you ensure that the image has a valid copyright tag? Thanks, Microchip08 (talk) 06:26, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

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A REQUEST

bhumihar brahmin articles please added then also add sir bhagwan ke liye

Bhumihars have been the traditional priests in Prayag, at Vishnupad Mandir in Gaya as Gayawar Pandas and in the adjoining districts like Hazaribagh. (with refernce it is true please please please add this if it is not added then bhumihars will never know the fact that they are also priests brahmins in some places) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Satyaprakash ji (talk • contribs) 11:19, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Is there a verifiable, reliable source for this? If yes, you can add it yourself. utcursch | talk 01:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Hey bro you have not included concerning British census which clearly mentioned about the enumeration of babhans (old name of bhumihar) as martial race in 1891 and there are enough book suggesting that they were enumerated as priestly brahmins after that census. British census have never mentioned babhans as sudras. Babhan was the name used for this very bhumihar brahmin community during British era. Even you can find out the Mr. herbert risley statement which misunderstood babhan to be offshoot of rajput which has been explained in the book by pandit yogendranath bhattacharya. He(yogendra nath) has mentioned all the rumours and jealousy comments of some people regarding bhumihar brahmin(babhan). Please go through it. book which you have mentioned i.e.(Democracy against Development: Lower-Caste Politics and Political Modernity ...

By Jeffrey Witsoe) has mentioned babhan were enumerated as shudra in british census is a totally false and fictitious claim. Please mention British census claiming this thing before writing this fact. These days i am reading many fictions stories made by many persons regarding babhan (bhumihar) community without any historical account. It is totally insane. https://archive.org/stream/hinducastesands00bhatgoog#page/n136/mode/2up, https://archive.org/stream/hinducastesands00bhatgoog#page/n132/mode/2up, http://books.google.co.in/books?id=HbAjKR_iHogC&pg=PA203&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=bhumihar&f=false, It is unfortunate that what ever rumour and fictitious claim you encounter consider as truth and paste it on most reliable website and Historic evidences you do not accept and consider it to be caste-glorifying. Britishers have considered babhans to be martial class (i.e. military and aristocratic class) till 1891 and thereafter enumerated them as mere priestly brahmin. Bhumihar is a new name definitely popularised by some big zamindar because bhumihar (landlord-ship ) name suited them. please mention something sensible and credible account rather that core assumptive assertion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpandey89 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

The article doesn't say that they were enlisted as Shudras, but that they were included in same category as some of the Shudra castes -- that's what the ref says. utcursch | talk 01:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi bro do you think that military and aristocratic community are shudra. No its not. This particular statement (i.e. babhan/bhumihar were enumerated as shudra in british census report) in jeffrey witsoe book is wrong which is evident from the book i am citing below. If you find any British census report backing the aforesaid statement then i will willingly accept that. (Census of India 1891 by British Indian govt url== https://archive.org/stream/cu31924023177268#page/n195/mode/2up) (Peasants and Monks in British India by William R. Pinch UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA PRESS url==http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft22900465;brand=ucpress & url==http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft22900465&chunk.id=s1.3.13&toc.depth=1&toc.id=ch3&brand=ucpress;query=#1) I feel that British census report statement or claim can be verified from the same census report not from mere supposition of an individual.

Nomination for deletion of Template:Sikh Gurus

Template:Sikh Gurus has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 10:35, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Gangwar

Ds gangwar has learned nothing.[2] He also edited comments of others,[3] I have warned him too. Bladesmulti (talk) 11:31, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Assam attacks

Have created this; would appreciate if you could add more: 2014 Assam attacks. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:23, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Delhi Election 2015 - opinion polls

Hello there, you seem to have made some edits in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi_Legislative_Assembly_election,_2015. Why are you mangling with the dates? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jineshkj (talk • contribs) 05:54, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I am not 'mangling' with dates. I'm fixing them according to what the references state. utcursch | talk 06:03, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

We usually use the dates when surveys are published because that's the only thing common among most surveys. When you change it for two entries in the table, it creates a disparity between different entries. Your actions could also create unnecessary edits wars. I would recommend you to use the release dates of surveys since that's what is provided by most of them. Thanks. User:Jineshkj — Preceding undated comment added 06:07, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Who is "we"? The standard practice is to use the dates when the survey was conducted - Opinion polling for the Indian general election, 2014, Opinion polling for the 2015 United Kingdom general election, Opinion polling for the New Zealand general election, 2014 etc. Survey results are useless without the time frame. utcursch | talk 06:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for blocking Its a Kip! Danielj2705 (talk) 21:01, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Second Battle of Anandpur

Sir there is a mistake in an article named Second Battle of Anandpur. please visit the talk page of the above article Shah439 (talk) 06:56, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

sorry

sorry please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puma Rameses (talk • contribs) 04:08, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Edit request for Bhumihar Brahmin

sir please edit in bhumihar brahmin page that they called as babhan in magadh region of Bihar and also called bhuinhar brahmin in eastern uttarpradesh.

pls also remove bhumihar community origin from rajput men and brahmin women. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adding founding (talk • contribs) 01:56, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Need some tips

Hi Utcursch,

Can you please teach me few things? I see you fixed some of my edits. Thank you! You removed the reference name. I thought it is useful, no? Katyaan (talk) 17:01, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

@Katyaan: Named references are useful when you're reusing the same reference at multiple places in the article. If it's being used just once, you need not name it. utcursch | talk 17:15, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Second battle of Anandpur

The "Imperial troops were repulsed at Anandpur" was the First Battle of Anandpur, not the second. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:09, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

@Kansas Bear: The source cited by you doesn't agree. Page 49 lists both "Anandpur (1st)" and "Anandpur (2nd)", and says "Imperial troops were repulsed" under the latter. utcursch | talk 20:12, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Actually, it states, "Imperial troops were repulsed in northern Punjab at Basoli and Anandpur...". Basoli being a previous battle and Anandpur being the previous battle listed above on page 49(ie. 1st Anandpur), where the imperial troops were repulsed. Then it states, "Emperor Aurangzeb sent Generals Wazir Khan and Zaberdast Khan to besiege Sikh Guru Gobind Singh in his stronghold at Anandpur..". Now unless Jacques writes non-chronologically, then what is stated in the first sentence applies to previous battles(Basoli & First Anandpur), thus the Second battle consisted of Wazir Khan and Zaberdast. Whereas the First Anandpur consisted of General Saiyad Khan, later replaced by Ramjan Khan.

"Anandpur (1st) 1704, Mughal-Sikh Wars: 1704, Mughal-Sikh Wars:

In renewed war against Sikh Guru Gobind Singh after a costly repulse at Chamkaur earlier in the year, Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb sent a fresh force into the northern Punjab under General Saiyad Khan, later replaced by Ramjan Khan. Ramjan was mortally wounded in further very heavy fighting around the Sikh stronghold at Anandpur, northeast of Ludhiana, and his force again withdrew. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:09, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

: @Kansas Bear: You're right. Apologies. utcursch | talk 21:12, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Villages

Hi, I'm patrolling new pages and I'm seeing you are creating new village articles with nice pace. I'm also interested in villages, I have created articles on villages. But how to make fast village articles like you are making? Any advice? Thanks. --Human3015^{Send WikiLove}  22:54, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015: Good to see someone else interested in this. There are many articles on American/European counties with <10 population, but Indian villages with hundreds of people don't have any articles. I'm using the 2011 census data for population. For coordinates and elevation, I'm using this website, which uses Google Maps. For some articles I also add additional content and images, based on existing Wikipedia articles (such as Likir Monastery for Likir). The fast-pace is because I've created the articles offline, and now I'm just adding them to Wikipedia. I also thought of creating a bot, but decided against it because a lot villages have existing articles under slightly different names (e.g. Hamis in census records is Hemis on Wikipedia). utcursch | talk 23:04, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for advice. If you can create bot for this then I will be in favour of such bot. If some articles overlap then you can delete those articles. There are more than half million (nearly 600,000) villages in India. And as you said that US/EU counties having less than 10 population has article then nearly all these half million villages deserves article. Still it is quite obvious that we will not make half million articles but at least we can use that bot for making articles on major villages. Each district has average 10 tehsils, each tehsil has 4-5 major villages(population more than 5,000), so each district deserves at least 50 village articles (though district has 800-1500 villages). So we need bot for it. Such bots can be useful for other SAARC countries too. --Human3015^{Send WikiLove}  23:22, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

@Human3015: Actually, User:Ganeshbot has already created thousands of articles based on census 2001 data (see User:Ganeshbot/Villages). Plus, thousands of other articles on villages have been created manually by several users. So, articles on most villages already exist.

What I'm doing is this:

• I take one district (or tehsil) at a time, and make a list of all the villages in that district (e.g. Template:Leh district).
• Then, I look at all the blue links to ensure that they're about the village; if not, I disambiguate the link (e.g. Bineka already existed, but it was about a village in Mandla district. So, I created Bineka, Bhopal and moved the original article to Bineka, Mandla). Several villages in India have same name (e.g. in Bhopal district alone, there are multiple Kolu Khedis, Bandikhedis, Manikhedis, Jhagariya Khurds -- some of these in same tehsil.) It'll be hard for a bot to understand which one is the existing article about.
• If there's a red link, I look at the district/tehsil category or article to ensure that an article on the village doesn't exist by another name. Unfortunately, Indian village names can be transliterated in several ways (e.g. Barkhera or Barkheda), so again a bot creation would be complex.
• If an article on the village already exists, I update it to include the latest census figures (I'm adding a census code to the infobox, so in future, a bot can update the article using this code).

utcursch | talk 23:38, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't think that most of villages has articles. For example, I have created this template Template:Parbhani district villages, my criteria for selection of village was population more than 2000, I got list from district website. But you can see even after being so selective there are so many villages in one district having more than 2000 population. If we consider 200 as baseline then there are 1000 villages in Parbhani district. I know it is very difficult to create articles on all of those. I have created 4-5 of them. I prefer to create article on major villages having "Primary health centre", "police station". I would like to thank you for your work in this village area. You are really doing great work. Thanks. --Human3015^{Send WikiLove}  00:02, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

response to you

I am not wasting anybody's time. If you have better things to do, get off from the topic and let other interested folk respond. As to your post, who asked you to correlate the two topics. You don't need to jump into an independent new discussion and divert it.

This is an independent issue I have raised to ask how Wikipedia strives to ensures fairness to minorities. Get off your high horse and think logically about what I have explained there.

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Suggested move of Religious conflicts in India

Greetings. I noticed you proposed this move by tagging Religious conflicts in India, but did not tag the other page, or start a talk discussion. I would do this myself, except since you proposed the merger I would like to see your rationale for it. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:51, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: I left a note in the dummy parameter (reason). utcursch | talk 03:06, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Proper references have been given on every piece of advocacy. This is not a personal opinion but a display of fact. The content that was deleted is also controversial and moreover it does not fit in the section.Let us be real than being biased.--Bhaina4u (talk) 21:44, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

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A cup of tea for you!

Good to see you DBigXray 19:41, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Rasgulla

Hello,

None of the term - Khiramohana or Bengali Rasgulla - have verifiable sources to establish them in the article, therefore removal of citation needed tags were inappropriate. Please provide verifiable sources before deleting the citation needed tags from the article. You are free to discuss the matter on article's talk page concerning item no 16 and 17 of the page.

Snthakur ( সৌমেন্দ্র নাথ ঠাকুর ) (talk) 21:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Single purpose account

Hello Utcursh, you may've seen the !vote made by User:Arjya2002. This account was created yesterday (14th) and the first thing they did is !vote on Talk:Rasgulla, all within 2 hours (WP:SPA). Also, they correctly added their signature. Looks suspicious and I suspect Socking. Do you have any idea who the master might be? 'cause I'm not aware of this article's history. Regards—☮JAaron95 ^Talk 03:39, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

@Jaaron95: No idea. Going by the comment, this is most probably someone from Odisha. There are some users from Odisha, who actively added the pro-Odisha POV to the article until a week back or so, but have been conspicuously missing in the recent discussions. I don't understand why any of them would want to create a sock though (since they haven't voted yet). Could be a lurker too. utcursch | talk 04:22, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

CorenBot Warnings

Hi Utcursch! If you'd like I can whitelist your account so you don't get those warnings in future. Crow^Caw 17:26, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

@Crow: Thanks, that would be great. I'm creating articles on Indian villages, and many villages (even those in same subdivision) have similar names. That makes the articles look similar. utcursch | talk 19:44, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

• Done! Crow^Caw 19:57, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List_of_most_populous_cities_in_India#Requested_move_16_August_2015

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The Syrupy Sweets in a nutshell.

• Khiramohana or, Kheer Mohan is a creamish sweet popular & invented in Odisha since the Jagannath Temple, Puri came into existence. The sweet, offered to the goddess Lakshmi during the Rath Yatra of the temple. Now, the sweet is though made of chhena and cooked in sugar syrup but there is no concrete evidence that chhena, which we know today, existed at the time of the sweet's invention. It is very unlikely of its existence then.
• NB: Kheer in Kheer Mohan, suggests a condensed milk pudding, is not chhena.

• Pahala Rasgulla, the descendant and an alternative name of Khiramohana , is a yellowish brown, crumbly, syrupy sweet popular & available only in Pahala region of Odisha.

• Rosogolla is a light spongy white ball of chhana stewed in sugar syrup (rasa). The form of Rosogolla that we know today is different from Khiramohana of Odisha in various aspects. Evidenly, Nobin Chandra Das of Kolkata, West Bengal, discovered the sweet. Its alternative names are Rossogolla, Rasagolla & Roshogolla, and its variations are Kamala Bhog, Raj Bhog, Roso Malai etc. The name of the sweet is anglicize to Rasgulla, after many non-Bengali speaking Indians started calling it by this name.

Snthakur ( সৌমেন্দ্র নাথ ঠাকুর ) (talk) 22:09, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Pal clan, you may be blocked from editing. Bongan^® →TalkToMe← 14:26, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

@Bongan: Pal clan is not a disambiguation page. Since its first version, it has been an article about the Punjabi group.

There is a separate article on the Bengali surname: Pal (surname).

The two pages are about different groups of people, and are linked from the disambiguation page Pal#People.

If someone adds completely irrelevant (but referenced) content to a page (e.g. content about Salem, Tamil Nadu to Salem, Massachusetts), it's removal is not disruptive editing. utcursch | talk 15:50, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

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Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indian_cities#Tourism.2Flandmarks.2Fplaces_of_interest

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Talk:List_of_cities_in_India_by_population#Census_reference

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