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Abhishek0831996 (talk) 04:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Abhishek0831996 let this count for both you and PinkSlippers EvergreenFir (talk) 04:55, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Your edit to Bonanza (season 1) has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. ButlerBlog (talk) 14:42, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please also refer to MOS:TVPLOT: Material copied verbatim from other sources can risk a breach of US copyright law, and a plot summary may not be copied from elsewhere unless its license is compatible with Wikipedia use. ButlerBlog (talk) 14:44, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Even after the above warning, you're persisting with edit summaries that are copyvio: [1]. Per WP:COPYPASTE, Superficial change of copyright-protected text is not enough. I would highly recommend that you cease with editing episode summaries until you are more familiar with the above Wikipedia policies, most importantly Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources and MOS:TVPLOT. ButlerBlog (talk) 15:11, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have not used the same text. Can you point me to the text you think violates copyright? IMDB cannot be used as a source as long as the text is different? Thanks PinkSlippers (talk) 15:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked at several examples. Here's one. Your text in this edit [2]:

Meanwhile, Hoss learns that the bull has been taken by a young child who believes the Cartwrights intend to kill and consume his large bovine friend

Compared to imdb:

while Hoss discovers that the bull has been spirited away by a little boy who is convinced that the Cartwrights plan to kill and eat his big bovine friend

You're just changing words in the same phrase - a superficial change of existing (copyrighted) text.

Honestly, in reviewing your edits, it looks like the existing summaries are problematic to begin with, but that's not a reason to essentially do the same thing. That just takes an existing problem and makes it worse. I'm actually about to pull all of the episode summaries as copyvio, since a large number of them seem to have been simply copied from imdb. ButlerBlog (talk) 15:34, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are many edits on wiki which are the same content as content in books, other websites but rephrased and thus not considered copyrighted. When it comes to episode summaries, why can't IDBM be used as source as long as the actual text is not the same? PinkSlippers (talk) 15:41, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are many edits on wiki which are the same content as content in books, other websites but rephrased and thus not considered copyrighted.

That depends. When it's rephrased as shown in your edit above, it absolutely is a copyright violation. I've given you links to the guidelines and policies. Are you reading them? Please do. You cannot use what exists on wiki now as a justification of putting in something that clearly violates policy. If you're using a policy violation to justify additional policy violations, that's a fallacy of relative privation. If you can't write an original episode summary, then just don't write one at all. ButlerBlog (talk) 15:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why cant IMDB be used as a reliable source for episode summeries? PinkSlippers (talk) 15:56, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First, imdb is user generated content, which makes it not reliable (see WP:IMDB and WP:CITEIMDB). But that's not really the issue here. It's not that you're using it as a source, but that you're copying the plot summary and making minimal word changes to it, which, as already pointed out, is a copyvio problem. Plot summaries must be worded in your own words - not restated from another source, per MOS:TVPLOT: A plot summary may not be copied from elsewhere unless its license is compatible with Wikipedia use. Also see WP:COPYPASTE (which I've previously noted): Superficial change of copyright-protected text is not enough. Wikipedia articles must be written in the author's own words. I find that I'm simply restating here what I've already pointed out, so read the linked policies and make sure you understand them because they very clearly answer your question. ButlerBlog (talk) 16:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The two sentences you brought up as examples do not only have minimal differences. They are clearly not the same sentence, the content is the same. If the content is factual and indeed part of the episode, why couldn't it be included here? PinkSlippers (talk) 17:43, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They are clearly not the same sentence - Oh, yes, they clearly are. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:53, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

T PinkSlippers (talk) 17:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They are the same content. But you can't objectively say they are the same words. Pharaphrasing sentences in articles and book is widely accepted editing method on wikipedia, I don't see why it would be different for episode summaries. PinkSlippers (talk) 18:00, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yours is not a paraphrase - it is a superficial change. And it's just one example of several that were essentially the same issue. If you're unable to see the copyright violations in it, then I would recommend that you avoid such editing until you are sure you understand the policy. ButlerBlog (talk) 18:39, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I advise you to check the definition of paraphrase.

"express the meaning of (something written or spoken) using different words".

In the meantime, Hoss finds out that a young child took the bull because he believed the Cartwrights wanted to eat him

would that be the same to you as

Meanwhile, Hoss learns that the bull was been taken by a young child who believes the Cartwrights intend to kill and consume his large bovine friend. PinkSlippers (talk) 19:54, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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