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Hi, many thanks for adding references to support the information you add to articles, but would you please add date formats to match the rest of the article rather than always using ISO date formats. Use either day first or month first for articles which are predominantly in that format and avoid ISO unless all of the reference dates are in ISO format. Templates {{use dmy dates}} and {{use mdy dates}} in articles can be used to help selecting which of the formats to chose. Regards. Keith D (talk) 13:10, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
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Do you actually know the place? I've been waiting for a couple of years to tell somebody something about the Island? It wont improve the encyclopaedia though. -Roxy the dog™woof20:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Can you expand on that? Is the phrase 'Do you actually know the place' derogatory? Also; if you've been waiting to tell someone - tell them what? And at the end, 'it won't improve the encyclopaedia though all seem like very negative statements. It they are not, then I'm sorry. But I'm not finished as of yet and if you have something to share then please do. Have a good day (evening). And yes; I do know the place. The joy of all things (talk) 20:54, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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Hi there, thanks for sending me a message. If you look at practically any discography on Wikipedia, you will see that it is done exactly as you describe. Albums and EPs are written with italics, whereas songs and singles and written in "speech marks", so yes it is the standard way of doing things. Here's an example: Radiohead discography but any discography on Wikipedia will be set out in the same manner. Thanks, good work in creating a page for The Domino State - I remember enjoying their debut album at the time when it first came out! Officially Mr X (talk) 20:35, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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Please don't make edits like this. The link goes to the front page of the website for the magazine, it is not useful as a reference source. The |url= should be to a web page where the actual text of the reference may be seen; see Template:Cite magazine#URL. Similarly, there is no point in giving the URL of a WorldCat catalogue entry, since it does not carry the supporting text. In any case, comprehensive catalogue entries (including WorldCat) may be found by clicking the linked ISBN. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:46, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
Okay (apologies again.) The citations were bare and on Wikiproject Yorkshire clean up page as needing URL's. The actual text cannot be found (as it was in a particular print of a magazine.) So how do I get around it? I have the reference for Beeching opening Tinsley Yard in the book Yorkshire Railways - but if I don't put a URL in, it will appear in next weeks clean up page saying it needs one. What's the get around for this?
Fully appreciate what you are saying, and I can see your point, so my apologies again. By the way; Alne railway station, you say the issue was not addressed. Not enough citations? I thought that there were enough to cover it, but if you don't, okay - I'll bow to your experience as you have been doing this longer than me and I'm still a newbie. Apologies again and I hope all is well otherwise. The joy of all things (talk) 19:35, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
What is this "Wikiproject Yorkshire clean up page" of which you speak?
Regarding Alne, yes there are some inline citations, but that's not the problem. The problem is that there is nothing to relate the unnumbered references to whatever parts of the text that they support. Have a look at the revision which added that notice - the only paragraph that is supported by an inline ref is the one about a boiler explosion, added by Mjroots (talk·contribs) in the same edit. What we need is for those four refs (one by Butt, two by Jowett, and one by Scott-Morgan) to be placed inside <ref>...</ref> tags at the proper places; and some page numbers too. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:20, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
Wikiproject Yorkshire Clean-up page is here https://tools.wmflabs.org/bambots/cwb/bycat/Yorkshire.html#In-text and is updated every Tuesday by a bot. It is fed from the main Wikiproject Yorkshire page at the bottom of Improving Articles located in this text 'A clean-up listing is available here which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention'. If you scroll down to References and Citations with no access date and url, you'll see that Tinsley and 261 others are in there. See what you mean about Alne, though. Thank you. The joy of all things (talk) 21:38, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
OK, I see that there are three entries for Tinsley Marshalling Yard: under the heading "Citation with accessdate and no URL (262)" it says "In-text citations lacking (April 2009), Unsourced statements (February 2013)"; under the heading "In-text citations lacking (187)" it says "... (April 2009), Unsourced statements (February 2013), Citation with accessdate and no URL"; and under the heading "Unsourced statements (1237)" it says "In-text citations lacking (April 2009), ... (February 2013), Citation with accessdate and no URL".
"Citation with accessdate and no URL" doesn't mean that a URL needs to be added - it normally means that there is a redundant |accessdate= parameter (or similar). Access dates are never useful for printed matter like books or magazines, since their content is static. Contrast them with web sources, which may be transient - they can change with time, so knowing when the web page was checked is useful.
If you look at the references section of this version you may see that refs 1, 3 and 4 each end with a red error message - if you don't see such messages on the article, you may like to carry out the instructions at Help:CS1 errors#Controlling error message display. The messages are all the same: |access-date= requires |url= (help) notice the blue link, that will tell you what can be done about it. But basically: whenever you see a message like that, and it's a printed source, just remove the |accessdate= parameter. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:31, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Roger that - I know that it is a pain for you, but I am learning! I have accessed the blue help links before, but I must admit to never having exploited that one. Thank you again. The joy of all things (talk) 00:46, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
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Hi there. Apologies for my lack of edit summary when reverting your entry at Leeds Bradford Airport. The established criteria for inclusion of accidents / incidents on airport pages is stated at WP:AIRCRASH. Laser pen incidents, while rising and a challenge to the industry, do not qualify for inclusion per the criteria and there is no real lasting encyclopaedic notability that LBA suffers the third-highest rate of such incidents in my opinion. Please feel free to raise the topic at project level talk (WP:AIRPORTS) or the article talk page if you think it still should be there, other editors may well have different views. Thanks. SempreVolando (talk) 08:24, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
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