User talk:Shirik/Archives/2010/July

One of your range blocks...

See User talk:188.28.64.254. No idea if this is collateral damage, or the intended recipient trying to pull a fast one. Just thought I'd let you deal with it. --Jayron32 04:03, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. I have to converse with some others before I can do much about it but will address it. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 04:10, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done, thanks Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 05:40, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

User:TreatyMan986

Hi. Would you mind indicating the name of the puppetmaster when issuing blocks like you did for User:TreatyMan986? Thanks!   — Jeff G. ツ 06:03, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I always tag their user page, I just haven't gotten to it yet as I'm discussing this with checkusers, etc. The user in question is Channel 6. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 06:05, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Cool, thanks, sorry for rushing you. :)   — Jeff G. ツ 06:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Geir Smith

I was of two minds about the SPI, but is there no way to add a Puppet Master tag? What will probably happen, again, is that Geir Smith's user and talk pages will be deleted after a month. Maybe it doesn't matter, but I suspect he'll be back. Maybe a category? I'm not sure how this works. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 17:00, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done All accounts are now tagged. I thought they were already, sorry. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 17:34, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talk • contribs) 17:59, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Copyedit request for Strip club article

Hello. The strip club article has just undergone peer review. I am interested in a FAC submission, but would like an objective set of eyes to do a sanity check before I put it forward. As you can see from the peer review, I do respond to feedback. Since I've slammed so much content into the article lately, it would be great to know if it makes sense to someone other than me. Thanks in advance if you have time to look over the article. -Wallanon (talk) 04:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I've been a little busy lately but I'll get to it when I can. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 14:36, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Great. I'm hoping it's just a few places where the bad typing tripped things up rather than wholesale bad form. - Wallanon (talk) 19:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Filter strikes again

Hi Shirik! In February I have asked you for help with {{Japan football clubs map 2010}} template because of the "position: absolute" problem. You have pushed my changes through and on the next day I was able to add some clubs to the template but when I tried to edit it today, I've seen the filter block again.

Since this template (and many similar as {{J. League Div 1 map 2010}}, {{J. League Div 2 map 2010}} and so on) will be edited constantly in the future, could you please create an image-positioning template with a code like that:
<includeonly><div style="position: absolute; left: {{{l}}}px; top: {{t}}px">[[Image:{{{flag}}}|{{{size}}}px|link={{{tan}}}|alt={{#if:{{{t|}}}|{{{t}}|{{{tan}}}}}|{{#if:{{{t|}}}|{{{t}}}}}]]</div></includeonly>
When I will use this template on my maps, there will be no "position: absolute" in the edit so it will pass the filter. —WiJG? 11:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can't do that; this seems like a very bad idea. This template could be very easily abused and would be difficult to track. Let me give it some thought on a safer alternative. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 14:36, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I just have taken and reworked the code from much wider used {{Location map marker}}. There were no intentions to abuse anything. —WiJG? 07:16, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

I'd rather not say why I think it's vulnerable, it just is. Surely there's a way to fix it, I just need to come up with it. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 14:26, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Iranian peoples

Hi Shirik. Sorry to bother you again, but your help is needed. With this edit, User:Scythian77 is accusing me of "vandalism", "trolling", and "using more than one account" (see his comment here). Interestingly, he is also claiming that he has "not removed anything", while in fact he has removed a whole bunch of the article and a few wikilinks. All I did was restoring the section that was deleted without any explanation, as well as adding 2 more wikilinks to the article. For that, he is accusing me of "vandalism" and "trolling". Thank you for your help. Tajik (talk) 10:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

• Oh, please. You removed two pictures that I re-added, after an editor with a single edit removed them last month. You then accuse me of removing sourced content, which is nonsense. I only reverted your edits, to get back to my own. This admin "Shrik" didn't even bother to look through the edit history to see what took place. Now, you tell me. Removing two pictures without explanation is somehow not vandalism? You Tajik have been proven to operate sock puppets on Wikiepdia for years, and are an agenda driven editor. I welcome a "case." The Scythian 18:26, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

  That's called edit warring, and is a blockable offense. If you wanted it back, you didn't have to revert, period. Again, I strongly advise that you do not use personal attacks, especially on my talk page. There won't be another warning. If you think there are sockpuppets involved, then start a case, otherwise stop with the baseless accusations. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 00:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Settima

Thanks, can't believe I forgot to revoke talkpage right off....--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

No worries. This is why I keep my friendly bots around watching pages and alerting me when something's wrong :) --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 14:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism warning

Ok, you just gave me a warning for vandalising a page that doesn't exist yet: Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2010-07-05/In the news. So the question is: what are you on about? Or maybe just: what are you on (and are you sharing?) Lampman (talk) 15:31, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

To answer your question, Lampman, the deleted page consists of one edit from your account timed at 03:36 UTC 7 July 2010, with an obscene reference to Katy Perry; it has since been deleted as vandalism. Does this jog your memory? Bencherlite^Talk 16:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Whoops, Wikirape. Lampman (talk) 16:32, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

User:Jamiemichelle

As you may or may not know, from your previous encounter with me, I had a problem with this problem user. You can look through the SPI case if you like, which details a history of abuse of other editors by Jamiemichelle, who has repeatedly used his or her IP addresses or account to destroy several people working on the Omega Point (Tipler) article. The history of the contributions of both the IPs and the account, the revision history of the article's page, and the talk page of the article also shows that Jamiemichelle has repeatedly accused others of violating this WP policy and that WP policy, or else making "illiterate, incompetent or antifactual" edits to the article, especially with Headbomb and Jeffro77. All the while he/she has at the same time violated WP:Assume Good Faith#Accusing others of bad faith as well as WP:AAGF. Its right there, the whole shebang. He/she has also recently taken the habit of calling me an "ideologically motivated antitheist" with "an Atheism Bias" multiple times throughout the SPI case whilst defending himself/herself as well as during replies to the Wikiquette board, to which I've repeatedly warned on his/her talkpage... agh! I'll spare you at least some of the details.

I want to ask for your help. How do I restrict Jamiemichelle's editing on the articles and so forth, to prevent his/her repeated personal attacks, while at the same allow him/her to defend himself/herself on the SPI case? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 19:04, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

As he/she appears to be less disruptive, I think I'll retract my comments. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 23:07, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Prepare to get Barnstarized!

		The Black hole Award for Vandalism
		For your recent assistance in sucking all of the vandalism to your talk page, I award you this black hole! Q T C 04:14, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Stale sock puppets

Hi Shirik, you recently declined as stale an SPI case I had opened, and I was wondering if you could explain to me what that meant. The master account, Dajudem, is indef blocked; Tundrabuggy, who was already blocked as a sock puppet of Dajudem, is also indef blocked. Of course those accounts would not have edited in months, as they are both indef blocked, but I wasn't looking for any sort of confirmation that those two are the same editor, as that's already been proven. The third account, Stellarkid, is very much an active editor. If Stellarkid is proven to be a sock puppet of the banned editor, then how is the case stale? ← George ^talk 16:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi George. Checkuser data is discarded from the server after 3 months. Any editor that has not edited within 3 months will have no data on file to check. As a result, there is no way a checkuser could be able to confirm that those accounts are related. We will have to go on behavioral evidence alone. Hope that helps, Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 00:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah, that makes total sense - thanks for explaining. Do you happen to know if Dajudem/Tundrabuggy's checkuser data might have been stored somewhere? When Tundrabuggy was discovered to be Dajudem, Future Perfect at Sunrise had suggested storing their IP data, but I'm not sure if that was done. Thanks again. ← George ^talk 00:38, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I was unaware of that actually. If that's the case, it may be available in logs. I will contact a seasoned CU to see if he can't track it down. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 00:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks. And thanks also for trying to help keep that SPI case civil. Cheers. ← George ^talk 00:51, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

• Shirik -- I've been chatting with George about us collaborating on a checkuser proposal, so my question relates to that. Are you positive its three months? I've seen three different number used now: one year, four months, and three months. (And of course your answer on logs will be of interest, for the same purpose). I would just like to have the proposal conform to the facts. Also, let me know if you have interest in the very early outlines of the proposal, as no doubt your input would be helpful. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:57, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes I'm sure it's 3 months for any yet uncollected data -- however any data that has already been collected is retained in the logs, so that will be of interest. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 22:52, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Another question for you Shirik - I have off-Wiki evidence that links Dajudem/Tundrabuggy with specific cities in Arizona and Maine. I cannot share that evidence here without violating WP:OUTING, but it might help prove or disprove whether or not Stellarkid is related to Dajudem/Tundrabuggy (if Stellarkid's IP address is from those cities). What is the best way to go about that? Should I just post the cities the banned editors are associated with, without giving specific addresses, and without providing how I came up with that information? Should I privately contact an administrator to relay the private information I've gathered? What do you suggest? ← George ^talk 23:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to email me or contact the checkuser list directly at checkuser-l@lists.wikimedia.org, but please don't post it on-wiki. Thanks, Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 23:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try to organize my notes and pass them along this weekend. Cheers. ← George ^talk 00:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Shirik, I've found a way to link Stellarkid and Dajudem to Maine and Arizona without revealing any personal data (My understanding is that IP addresses are not considered personal data covered by WP:OUTING). If I find it necessary, I'll email the other off-Wiki sources (that contain personal data), but I don't expect it to be necessary. ← George ^talk 19:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Fraberj

He's begun vandalizing self-replicating machine again. Can you please re-activate it, and apply it to the article page as well?— Dædαlus ^Contribs 04:06, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Mo Saheed

Did you actually look at those links for his "companies"? One is a build-it-yourself website template with no content yet created, the other is a site with the name of the company and "Coming Soon". Perhaps db-spam would be more applicable? Yworo (talk) 18:49, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

If you noticed my AFD nomination, you will certainly see that I did in fact look at the links. However, the article is not about his company. If they bother you that much, remove the links, but that doesn't justify deleting the article. (The other issues, however, do.) --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 18:49, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

If you say so. Being a CEO is easy, pay your money and register a corporation. I'm a CEO, but that doesn't make me notable! Yworo (talk) 20:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I advise that you re-read WP:CSD#A7. A7 does not ask whether or not a subject is notable. It asks for an assertion of notability. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 20:19, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Moursal Amini

y did u do dat!! i fully read it in a magazine!!! i waz tryin 2 find da pictre and wat did u do!!!!!!:( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazzy404 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

The article you created had no content, and then you blanked it. You are welcome to recreate it with content. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 20:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

how do i put a upload da picture and thanx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazzy404 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

You cannot upload pictures here until you have become autoconfirmed. However, you can upload it to Commons. Any files uploaded to Commons will work here as well. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 21:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

==Help needed==

Hiiyaa! I am CrazyMartini. I have some concerns about the latest edits of Sulmues that follows me always around (in Napoleon Zervas lately) and posts not appropriate messages against my edits. [1] , [2].I took the initiate and sent a polite comment in his discussion page, but no response.CrazyMartini (talk) 21:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

WP:RFPP, Spain national football team

Hi! There was a request for PC1 at RFPP for this article. From the looks of things it was semi'd for a week, and you changed the semi to PC1 (no argument from me). However... you set PC1 for just a day, hence, I presume, the new request at RFPP.

I'm assuming you intended PC1 to last as long as the semi it replaced? I've re-applied PC1 for a week; however, if I've misunderstood or I'm unaware of something do please feel free to change/fix/rectify.

TFOWR 00:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I actually never saw the request at WP:RFPP. I have no problems with the time being bumped up. The reasons I protected were all internal discussion. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 03:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah, got it - makes sense! TFOWR 09:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Redaction

Is there any way to remove abuse filter edits from public view? Otherwise, there's little point in redaction if it was tagged because a user could easily find their way around it.

Of course, if it's just at the history/contributions where only an insignificantly small minority go around to the EF, then never mind. mechamind90 05:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

It looks like the long-standing bug has been fixed now, though whether it's active yet on the English Wikipedia I can't say. Shirik might have more info. —Soap— 10:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

No it's not active, and there's no way to remove abuse filter logs right now except through developer intervention. This is one of the reasons why there are a lot of things that are, to this day, unfiltered. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 15:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Dear Owner...Sorry For Writing That Stuff but whats the point of having an edit button if you dont want people like me coming along just block it cause that just gives me and others the freedom to write what ever we want its not like i hacked into the website to write it the edit button was available for any persom to use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.139.208 (talk) 18:51, 13 July 2010 (UTC) \

Epinephrine Mediation

Hi Shirik,

Thanks for your note. I agree that page protection is unnecessary at this point. We are at a point in the mediation where the writing is on the wall and the participants are attempting to adjust to that. Unsettling, perhaps, but not unusual. If it should heat up further and someone were to attempt a page move, I would support reverting and page protection, but I don't think that will happen. Sunray (talk) 19:24, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Copyedit request

Hi, I was wondering if you could use your copyedit powers on the article. Thanks :) d'oh! _talk 08:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I was out on a cruise all last week. If you still need my help, feel free to let me know. Regards, Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 15:52, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Yep, that will be great if you could help out, as it is very hard to find a copy editor on Wiki. d'oh! _talk 15:57, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Filter question

I don't understand how "added_lines" works. Why did the added_lines for this filter hit include the entire article?—Kww(talk) 03:55, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Uh... it's not supposed to. You may wish to report that as a bug. The added_lines variable should basically just do a diff between the two revisions and return anything that is either added or changed. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 14:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Current event

Any reason to include {{Current event}} in Airblue Flight 202? The aircraft has crashed, they have already found out everyone has died, so what is currently "current" at the time? /HeyMid (contributions) 15:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

It's a top news item, it's still being investigated, and information is still forthcoming. There's more to a crash than "the airplane crashed and people died". As it's investigated, information will surely be coming in. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 15:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Erika Celeste

Could you please undelete this article? We have received OTRS permission for it which I can add as soon as it is restored. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done I've marked the talk page with {{OTRS pending}} until you get a chance to put it up. Thanks, Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 04:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

It's now tagged with permission. Thanks! VernoWhitney (talk) 12:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Gradually decreasing numbered sock.

I notice that the "Spider's Web" sock keeps on decreasing the number for each account. Perhaps a new disallow filter may be necessary, and should also trigger Mr.Z-bot if approved. mechamind90 02:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm not familiar with this sock. Do you have any more information for me? A case page or so? Thanks, Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 04:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, given the logs that appear, it's continuously Bambifan101. It wouldn't really require knowledge of the user, but perhaps which typing characters the sock could use (the accented ones are always or almost always vowels).mechamind90 04:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'm aware of Bambifan. I will take a look into this. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 04:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)