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It's happening again....

Hi, RexxS - I'm not sure what's going on with Firefox - last time you helped me it was a font issue in preferences but I checked it and all is well in that department - at least as far as I can tell. The only change I've made is a recent upgrade on Mac to Catalina OS. I am not having this issue in Safari or Chrome. Any ideas?? ^Atsme _Talk 📧 13:33, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

@Atsme: Is it on purpose that you are operating at 50% zoom? --Izno (talk) 22:24, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Izno - ???? Not on purpose, no. Is that the problem? All I know is that after I updated to Catalina OS, Firefox started doing whatever it is it's doing. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 22:35, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Ooops!!!

How on earth??!!

I must've hit the right key combo at the wrong time and zoomed in. Thank you, Izno - it's fixed now, but I feel kinda....uhm.... 😜. 🍺🍻 cheers! ^Atsme _Talk 📧 22:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

It was my first guess based on the symptoms and the apparent fact it was set to 50%. No worries. --Izno (talk) 23:17, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Well spotted, Izno, and thank you for sorting the problem! --RexxS (talk) 01:09, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

and still today! You were mentioned as a possible arb cand, - what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Gerda – has it really been ten years? Thank you, Rlevse, still sorely missed – I think it's very flattering that anyone might consider me able to do such a demanding job, but I also think it's about the worst job on Wikipedia, so I have every intention of avoiding it. I see there are plenty of candidates now, and they certainly don't need a reluctant dinosaur to add to the list. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 15:22, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

I even found 11 to support! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Hmm. My first thought on reading Gerda's suggestion was that I agree entirely with RexxS. Yes, it is indeed "about the worst job on Wikipedia", and I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. My second thought, though, was that RexxS would be a useful voice of reason to balance against some of the utter fools who have been on ArbCom in recent times. My third thought was "No, he'd just waste his time trying to talk sense to them and getting nowhere". There are no doubt much more constructive tasks he could spend his time on. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 14:13, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Memorials

Hi, RexxS. I've just been looking at your user page, and I see your memorials to Geogre and Phaedriel. From time to time I come across old posts on some talk page or project page that reminds me of someone I remember as a good editor from back in my early days as an editor, or even someone who was active before I came along and whom I don't remember, but who I now discover was a valuable contributor. On such occasions I tend to feel a sadness, and perhaps nostalgia. I had never thought of making a user page memorial to any of them, as you have done, but it's a very nice idea. I also followed your link to the FfD discussion relating to Geogre. I thought the "keep" comments were, well let's just say ill-chosen, and leave it at that. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 14:39, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

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Tech question

Is there a way to combine the carousel's timed switching with a manual scroll-thru using forward-back arrows on either side of the image? ^Atsme _Talk 📧 21:21, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

@Atsme: Not using the current system, which is written in Lua. Lua code is executed on the server when the page is rendered, so isn't suitable for interactive functionality. You would need JavaScript running on the client, which means installing a script for every visitor to the page. I don't think that will be easy to get agreement for, sorry. --RexxS (talk) 22:05, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Oh, yikes. Ok, well...is there any way to know if all the pictures in the carousel are cycling properly? If my memory serves correctly, I believe you said there was no limit to how many images one can include? ^Atsme _Talk 📧 22:43, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

@Atsme: If you create a blank page in your userspace with just {{#invoke:carousel | main | name=Atsme | switchsecs = 5}} and preview it roughly every five seconds, it should work through the entire list of filenames and captions for you. There are actually some limits on the number of images you can include, but you'd probably have to have millions of filenames before you got anywhere near the limits that the software imposes. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 15:57, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! 🤗 ^Atsme _Talk 📧 15:59, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

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Lua performance

Hi! Lately, I was experimenting with the possibilities of data tables on Commons and using them to potentially “internationalise” templates. E.g., I would set variables for all language-depending parts of the code and load the localised values from Commons (via mw.ext.data.get). This method works fine, generally speaking, but apparently it causes heavy performance issues with multiple calls of the data, letting the Scribunto_LuaSandboxCallback::get time explode (most extreme example I could think of in my case: Testwiki). I then tried to switch to mw.dataLoad, which clearly reduced the time usage, but it seems still very high to me (same example on BETA); now the main causes are dataWrapper <mw.lua:661> and <mw.lua:683>. I have to admit that I am surprised by this result, the data stored on Commons is not a lot, after all (<50 entries per table). Do you know if this is really the most efficient method to load localised data from Commons? In that case there is no point in further following this path; luckily I don’t need to, since those particular templates have little potential to become globally requested, and I can continue to only focus on keeping the German version working, but lately there have been many talks about “global templates” and this looked like a promising way to me. Would be great to achieve something like this without killing the performance. Regards, XanonymusX (talk) 00:57, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

@XanonymusX: The implementation on Commons is relatively new, so I'm not surprised that it's not giving optimal results. I've always found mw.dataLoad to be more efficient, primarily because (as I understand it) it caches the load for a page and doesn't have to reload the data on each call for that page. I haven't tried the calls from Commons as you have, so you probably know more than I do about this problem. It looks to me that you've done as much as you can. Hopefully the code will be improved as more people use the calls and ask for better performance. That might take a while. --RexxS (talk) 23:24, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I’ve been looking into some of the Phabricator tasks about “global” templates and modules that all try to figure out better ways to achieve similar goals, so I guess the time is not yet ready for such an internationalisation initiative. I will keep my submodules and data tables in the testing area for now and focus on the local usage again, that’s working out well enough. Happy holidays! –XanonymusX (talk) 00:07, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

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Io Saturnalia!

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& Braces

Hi, would you mind if I added you to this list? Ϣere SpielChequers 23:59, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

@WereSpielChequers: please feel free to add my name, of course. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 01:40, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, done. Ϣere SpielChequers 21:34, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas RexxS
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Interaction with Colin

Rexx, I would ask you to consider striking any parts of this diff which comment on Colin as an editor rather than the substance being discussed. Should you have any questions about this feel free to ask me by pinging me here or leaving a message on my talk page. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:54, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: I'm happy to redact, and thank you for your intervention. I am, of course, perfectly aware of the problem of personalising debate, and I apologise that I had to make a point about it. I have done nothing more than replied to Colin in the same vein that he approached my contributions. If he is now prepared to keep a civil tongue in his head and restrict his comments to the issues and not the editors, he'll find me perfectly amenable. --RexxS (talk) 02:39, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

A big Merry Christmas (that wonderful link was kindly added to my talk). I'm not normally this sentimental but I just looked over the medicine RfC—thank you for your excellent contributions there. Johnuniq (talk) 04:33, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy new year!

Boom! Crash! Sparkle! Isn't my coding coming on nicely? Bishonen | talk 20:48, 31 December 2019 (UTC).
- Awesome --RexxS (talk) 23:38, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Column width for refs

Hi Rexxs,

Generic seasonal greetings, best wishes for the new year, etc. and have some good dives, they are good for the state of mind. (I even have a reference - Beneton, Frédéric; Michoud, Guillaume; Coulange, Mathieu; Laine, Nicolas; Ramdani, Céline; Borgnetta, Marc; Breton, Patricia; Guieu, Regis; Rostain, J. C.; Trousselard, Marion (18 December 2017). "Recreational Diving Practice for Stress Management: An Exploratory Trial". Frontiers in Psychology. 8: 2193. doi:10.3389/fpsyg.2017.02193. PMID 29326628.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link))

Just querying your edit summary Better to have the value when it's been specifically chosen, rather than just left to default, but I'll move it just past 30em to avoid this happening again regarding column width for ref lists. Why is a specified value better than default? Is the reason specific to the article?

Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 06:40, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Peter Happy New Year! I'm not doing much diving at the moment - my part of the globe is bloody cold right now.

I can't speak for other editors, but when I look at an article's references, I usually want to see a narrower column width if most of the cites are short, and a wider column width if most of them are long, as I think that's more readable and possibly more aesthetically pleasing. So on articles I've invested time in, I play around with 25em or 30em or 40em, etc, column widths until I find what I think is optimal for most screens, given the references currently in place. So if I've added a |colwidth= parameter, it's as a result of a conscious decision to use that width and that definitely includes using 30em. That contrasts with simply using the default, which indicates to me that no decision on column widths has been made. If someone removes the |colwidth=30em, thinking "Oh, it's the same as default; I might as well save a few bytes" and I don't notice, I'll quite likely end up at some point redoing the exercise of finding the optimal colwidth again, which ends up being a waste of my time. If other editors have adopted the same idea as I have, removing parameters will simply cause annoyance, especially when there's no improvement to the article as a result. it makes sense to me; hope it does for you, too. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 08:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Good enough. I am less fussy, so not a big deal either way for me. Could I suggest that you use a comment in the text? Then everyone will know that you have specifically chosen the colwidth, and will be less likely to change it. I could quite easily be editing the same article again another year and not remember, and waste both of our time again. For me it is a small matter, but I would prefer not to trouble you with such a small thing unnecessarily. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 19:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Good idea, Peter, I'll try to get into the habit of leaving a note like that. Although if it's a scuba-related article with |colwidth=30em, it's almost a guarantee that it's my edit and that I've set the value deliberately. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 21:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Journal help

G'day, RexxS. Could you lend your expertise to help me find information in a Cochrane review?

I cannot access PMID 23877886. I went to a medical library on Friday, and they can't get it either. I am able to see the content via "other means", but I cannot print and easily peruse the article because it is over 300 pages. Nor can I search within the text via ctrl-f. It turns up on a Tourette syndrome search, and I know the content is relevant to TS, but I cannot locate text in the article that pertains specifically to TS. Are you able to ctrl-f in there to find any TS text? Or to give me any ideas of what to do next? Thanks in advance, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:16, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sandy, I've just logged on to my Wiley Online Library account but the article at https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/ebch.1905 is still pay-to-view for me. Let me ping Jenny who does some work with Cochrane and might be able to get the information you want without having to spend $$ on it.

Jenny, can you see the full text in machine-readable format to help Sandy find the part that relates to Tourette syndrome? Cheers --RexxS (talk) 00:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so much, RexxS; Jenny, if it proves to be a lot of work (it's a huge article), please don't spend too much time on it. I have possibly located other sources that may cover the same territory. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:09, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Dear @RexxS and SandyGeorgia: Thank you for including me here. Sandy, I will check on your user page and try to send you an email following up. Or you can email me at jdawson (a) cochrane (dot) org . It may take me a day or so but I will do my best. Thank you again. JenOttawa (talk) 14:16, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

JenOttawa thanks so much, but don't put too much effort into it yet. I just found something that works in place of this review, and seems to say the same thing. I will follow up with you if I still need more. Thanks again! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:46, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

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Question

Hi, sweetie pie (can I say that from my heart without becoming a target of whatever, despite my honorable intentions?) If not, please strike it and accept my apologies even though my experiences with you in my mind justifies my position...with the latter aside, my question to you is (drum roll please), are the total "edits" of a user based only on an individual edit count rather than size of the prose in the individual edits? IOW, does an edit of +600 count the same as 1200+ ? What about reverts - does that count as one edit? I'm just trying to figure out what constitutes an edit in WP terms...^Atsme _Talk 📧 00:08, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Atsme: Heh, you can call me anything you want without becoming a target of anything!

The answers to your questions [drum roll] are: yes, yes and yes. It's simply a count of the number of times you've hit the [save] button (now labelled 'Publish changes') having made any change whatsoever to the page. HTH --RexxS (talk) 00:37, 18 January2020 (UTC)

Jiminy Cricket!! If only I had known...oh well, it probably would not have mattered.

^Atsme _Talk 📧 00:51, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

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Technical help

Evening RexxS - I hope you are well. I'm also hoping you can help with a technical mess I've got myself into or, if page moves aren't your bag, suggest someone who might be able to assist. I've done a Start class article on quite an important house, which you can see here, Draft:Mamhead House. It's a draft because I followed, or thought I'd followed, the instructions for converting an existing redirect page which is here, [1]. But now I seem to be stuck in some weird Catch-22. The draft won't let me move it to Mamhead House, because the redirect already occupies that space. But nor can I request a technical move, as I tried to do here, Draft talk:Mamhead House, apparently because it's a draft. So it sends me back here, Wikipedia:Requested moves, which just puts me back in the loop. I've raised a query at the Helpdesk, here, Wikipedia:Help desk#Draft:Mamhead House but am not getting any response. I suspect it needs some kind of admin override and I'd be really grateful for any guidance you could provide. Many thanks. KJP1 (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Rex - ignore all of my burblings. Somebody's fixed it. Hurrah! KJP1 (talk) 18:53, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi KJP1. I'm glad it's sorted; sometimes redirects have a bit too much history to allow another page to be moved to their title, and you need an admin to unjam it. Thanks Orangemike for fixing it. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 23:05, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

More technical help?

Hi there, RexxS! Remembering your mastery of breed infoboxes in past, I wondered if you could find a moment to see why the | otherstd = parameter of {{Infobox dog breed}} isn't working at Maltese (dog). I'm sure the answer will turn out to be, as usual, user error, but I can't see where that error lies. If you don't have time, NP, I'll take it to a help board. Many thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:27, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: I've sprinkled it with magic fixie-dust (as my old pal Jack would say). Actually it was a tiny typo: data152 should have been data52, but it's so easy to make that mistake when it's directly under the line starting label52: the lowercase 'L' looks so much like the digit '1'. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 23:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

OK, user error, but for once not mine – I'd never have found that, thank you so much! Bigger question: if I manage to get consensus for a rewrite of the infobox as a child of {{Infobox animal breed}}, (a) might that be possible and (b) might you be prepared to take it on? The horse breed one was a load of work, I know, so I hesitate to ask even in a general sort of way. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:09, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry I've been so busy lately, Justlettersandnumbers. I've managed to have a quick look and I think it should be possible. If I can make some time, I'll take a harder look at it soon. --RexxS (talk) 23:36, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hey

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles/RFC on pharmaceutical drug prices opened, but you haven't (re)posted your thoughts yet. It's fine if you want to ...and I suppose there's no real rush, either. This'll probably run at least the bot-default of 30 days. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:03, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hey WhatamIdoing, sorry I've had a busy few days since it opened, and although I've had a chance to look at it, I've not found time to make a contribution yet. I'm pleased that many of the issues that I wanted to discuss, like over-precision, and the place of subject-specific guidelines have already been raised by others, so I don't see any urgency to get into another unpleasant dialogue for now. --RexxS (talk) 14:55, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

There's no rush. So far, people are being really kind and generous about this RFC. It's one of those moments that makes me love our community even more. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:04, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Retrieving QID based on query in Wikipedia

Hi Rexx. Is there a way to do the inverse of module:WikidataIB, basically querying wikidata within wikipedia?

{{#invoke:WikidataIB |getValue |P496|qid=Q4273363|fetchwikidata=ALL|onlysourced=no}} → "0000-0002-4027-364X"
{{#invoke:QUERY |getQID |P496|value=0000-0002-4027-364X|fetchwikidata=ALL|onlysourced=no}} → "Q4273363"

Any ideas/advice appreciated! T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 08:48, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

@Thomas: Lua is unsuited to scanning through the Wikidata database to find a particular entry. For that you need a structured query language like that used in the Wikidata Query service (WDQS). Here's a short link to a query that does the job you want:

https://w.wiki/GMX

This is the actual query:

#Whose Orchid ID
SELECT ?item ?itemLabel 
WHERE 
{
  ?item wdt:P496 "0000-0002-4027-364X".
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
}

You can use Template:Wikidata list inside a Wikipedia page in your userspace to display the results of a WDQS query. The actual page updating is done by running User:ListeriaBot on the page. Have a look at the example in the template documentation for some ideas. Give me a ping if you run into any difficulties. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 21:15, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

@RexxS: Thanks - that makes sense. I've had a go with essentially that query via listeriabot (sandbox link). It seems to only format output as a table (usually useful, but I need just the raw QID). Do you know a way to extract the value from a specific table row (#invoke:string or something?). Otherwise I'll contact the user who made the bot to ask if the output can be provided as a list rather than table. Thanks again for all the help! 07:01, 30 January 2020 (UTC)