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Happy editing! EggRoll97 ^(talk) 03:51, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@EggRoll97 Thanks🙏 Ramachbehera1 (talk) 16:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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_signed,Rosguill ^talk 15:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill Siyal and Chamar are two different caste. This proved on odisha Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Research and Training Institute (SCSTRTI), Ramachbehera1 (talk) 15:56, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chamar caste was lower caste of our Siyal caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 15:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide citations to reliable sources, and to stop edit warring. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:19, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

March 2024

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Siyal (caste). This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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@Rosguill I can't want edite war but this is wrong theory in this theory create social violence in our society. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 16:32, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This theory was right but only Change Chamar and Chamar related massage in this theory. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 16:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to either a) provide a reliable source that directly supports the claims you want to add to the article or b) coherently explain why the currently-used sources are not reliable, preferably with reference to reliable sources. You should also disclose whether you have previously edited using other accounts. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill ok I have chose option a Ramachbehera1 (talk) 18:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

the main two source proves siyal are not chamar (1) The Scheduled Caste Population in Odisha book (2) Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Research and Training Institute (SCSTRTI), Odisha Ramachbehera1 (talk) 18:14, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

this book are described siyal and chamar different caste (1)Singh, K.S.; Anthropological Survey of India (1992): People of India: Odisha (2 pts.)

(2)Orissa (India). Tribal Research Bureau (1969): Adibasi

(3)Phillips, H.A.D. (1886): Our Administration of India Ramachbehera1 (talk) 18:19, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide the page numbers for the information in question? This is necessary for a book citation. Do also note that #3 is a WP:RAJ source, which are not reliable for information about castes. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill The Scheduled Caste Population in Odisha book page number- 118 and 124 proved siyal and Chamar two different caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 03:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Research and Training Institute (SCSTRTI), Odisha proved siyal and chamar two different caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 04:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeing that on page 57 that source says The origin of the word Khajuria is interesting. It is an adoption from the original caste name of 'Chamara' or 'Siyal' who are to be taken as synonymous [1]. I'm not seeing any search results for Chamara or Siyal on the pages you've identified, could you clarify what text you're looking at that you believe supports your claims? _signed,Rosguill ^talk 13:31, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill which book page number 57 provide siyal and Chamar same caste? Ramachbehera1 (talk) 03:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

please prefer this book I can read this book Ramachbehera1 (talk) 03:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill Singh, K.S.: People of India: Odisha (2 pts.) (1992)- Page number 1408 and 1409 provide siyal and chamar two different caste Ramachbehera1 (talk) 03:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pati, R.N.: Family Planning, 2008 page number 93 provide chamar subcaste Chammar, Mochi, Muchi, satmuni Ramachbehera1 (talk) 06:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This book can't describe siyal caste Ramachbehera1 (talk) 06:16, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mishra, P.K.: Harijans in Hindu and Tribal Social Structures, 1992 page number describe chamar caste this book no point siyal. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 06:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

sorry page number 201 Ramachbehera1 (talk) 06:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mishra, P.K.: Harijans in Hindu and Tribal Social Structures, 1992 page number 78 describe Chamar caste can't be any information write siyal caste Ramachbehera1 (talk) 06:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

one point can't be wrote article. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 06:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am belong to siyal caste and my age is 34 .i am properly now siyal and chamar are two different caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 07:10, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please provide the actual quotes on these pages that support your assertion? Moreover, examples that refer to "Chamar" or "Siyal" individually are not strong evidence of your claims: to prove your point, I would hope to see a single source that directly addresses Siyal and Chamar separately, or else descriptions of the two across multiple RS that are clearly contradictory and thus must describe different groups. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 13:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill The Constitution ( Scheduled Caste) Order Of 1950 -Odisha state scheduled caste list page number 167 and 168 provide serial number 18- Chamar caste and serial number 86 - Siyal caste. this is provid and proved. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 14:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

please you read and Change this article. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 14:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Constitution ( Scheduled Caste) Order Of 1950:- Odisha state scheduled caste list page number 167 and 168 serial number - 18 - chamar caste and serial number 86 - siyal caste. Ramachbehera1 (talk) 02:22, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

please read this source and change this article? please replay me? Ramachbehera1 (talk) 03:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Constitution (Scheduled caste) Order of 1950 Book