User talk:Pomtarr82/List of cyclists nicknames
This page was nominated for deletion on 1 October 2021. The result of the discussion was keep. |
Flags
[edit]My reading of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Icons is that flags shouldn't be used for people not representing their nation. I'm not sure that cyclists such as Ray Booty (notable though he certainly was) ever represented the Youkay, or Britain, or England; and for most of the people you list, representing their nation (or territory or whatever) was something that only happened now and again (if even that). Also, the same MoS page says "The name of a flag's political entity should appear adjacent to the first use of the flag, as no reader is familiar with every flag, and many flags differ only in minor details." -- Hoary (talk) 05:02, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the input Hoary, I'll just remove the column with the flags then - the MoS is pretty clear on that. Pomtarr82 (talk) 11:59, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Unsourced entries
[edit]As discussed in the recent deletion review, this draft article is one that I've been working on for a long time, with long gaps in between (life got in the way). There are currently quite a lot of unsourced entries in the list, but they are all nicknames I have heard from somewhere (I'm a fan of cycling and have read widely on the subject). This means that sources will be available out there, but the research has not (yet) been done to find and format these. To clarify, any entries for which proper sources cannot be found will be deleted - it's of course not my intention to include them. I'm also aware that some of the references in there are now dead links. So that needs to be checked too and any unsourceables removed. Pomtarr82 (talk) 11:59, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Before you remove the references that have dead links, Pomtarr82, do be sure to check whether the Wayback Machine has usable scrapes. It often does. Incidentally, I'm now reading a chatty, non-academic, but seemingly sound book about cycling in Belgium that has a number of nicknames; and I'm jotting these down (with page numbers) as I encounter them. When I've finished the book, shall I add those that aren't currently in your list? -- Hoary (talk) 12:09, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Pomtarr82, if you either (A) ping me and express interest, or (B) move this to Draft:List of cyclists' nicknames, then I'll add the (mostly Belgian) nicknames. Without either (A) or (B), I'll do nothing. This page isn't on my watchlist. -- Hoary (talk) 23:45, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- . . . though I must say that some of your sources (blog entries, IMDb) look dodgy. -- Hoary (talk) 12:29, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Hypocoristics
[edit]Pomtarr82, you give "Tommy" as a nickname for Tom Simpson, but you don't give "Tom" as a nickname for Thomas Simpson, "Eddy" as a nickname for Édouard Merckx, etc. (And nor should you, I think.) I suggest stripping any conventional hypocoristics from the list, except perhaps those that are likely to mystify people unfamiliar with the relevant language. -- Hoary (talk) 08:40, 17 October 2021 (UTC)