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hampsterx

yeah thnx alot for deleting my page.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hampsterx (talk • contribs) 00:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Metronomic

This is Rockettmeister, from the band Metronomic. I find it highly offensive that you deleted our page on the grounds the band does not assert 'significance'. We may not have a record deal, but we do have a fanbase and have worked extremely hard to make this band what it is.

I strongly request you reverse you decision. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockettmeister (talk • contribs) 13:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

RFC/Matthew

Wondering what happened to it? Majorly seems to purge it from existence. Spryde 15:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

If you want to recreate that RfC, I am willing to certify. Matthew needs to be made aware that the community is very concerned with his behaviour. Walton^One 14:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see why we'd need to write it all out again; subject to Majorly's agreement, we can undelete the deleted version and I'll add my certification. Alternatively, you could just copy your original dispute summary from the deleted version and paste it into a new RfC; some of the diffs from my outside view might also be helpful. Walton^One 12:08, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[[Andrew crawford]

Could you please close Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew crawford? Thanks. Corvus cornix 17:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Email

Pascal! You don't have email enabled :(. How can I contact you privately? ~ Wikihermit 22:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Replied. ~ Wikihermit 22:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi there

Monday or Tuesday, if you're still interested. Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 05:43, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure Willy would be a seen as a good nominator! ;) You were the first to offer with Riana a close second, so I you two could be co-nominators. But whatever you feel comfortable with. Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 06:02, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

That was quick! I won't be able to finish my bit until later Sunday or Monday, being the long weekend and all. I'll reset the date and time before I transclude. Cheers! Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 06:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I let her know. Thanks again! Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 06:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the nom. I'll get to my bit later. Night! Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 07:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

It's up. Thanks very much for the great nom! Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 03:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Another topic

Pascal, can you weigh in on this question at the Reference Desk? It's about terms for drugstores in Canada. Is there a maybe a coloquial term other than "la pharmacie" au Québec? And also, which term do Anglos use? -- Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 07:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Skunkpig

Hello my friend, i was about to delete this article my self as i couldn't find any evidence on the net for the skunk pig authenticity which is a human type (capitalist in fact) from the late 50' Russian comics.--Makoko 09:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

CuddlyAble3

Hi there. I'm not sure if there's something underhanded going on, but it looks as though there might be, so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. CuddlyAble3, immediately after the expiry of his latest block for disruptive and uncivil behaviour, seems to have deleted his user page while leaving his talk page up (such as it is; he continues to delete warnings and behavioural reminders). Is this kosher? It looks to me as if he's trying to conceal his behavioural problems, and the warnings he's received for them, from those who encounter his name in signed comments, etc. --Scheinwerfermann 14:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Public Radio Talent Quest

Mr. Pascal. Tesson, Hello, It has come to my attention that you deleted as spam my entry that I wrote about the Public Radio Talent Quest. Would you kindly take a moment to discuss this action with me, first by restoring the entry so that we can see where exactly the error of my ways actually exist.

I've placed a rebuttal to the deletion of my entry on the article talk page and in my own talk page I question the validity of a non-existant person that targeted my entry for deletion. I went to the supposed talk page of the IP editor who flaged my entry for deletion. As you see through (read) my conversations, and if you really research my 'links' that I provide and all of my thoughts about this entry, my request to have the entry restored is not because I love the material that I've cited, or the site that I've participated in. It is the citation that is important, the information provided is legitimate, at least in my mind it made a perfect encyclopedic entry by stating only the facts. In a world where everyone is selling everything, I understand how everything looks like an advertisement and we are all buyers and sellers. But this was an entry about information, and contributing to this community that information.

Please restore my entry, or share with me, why it needs to be completely rewritten. Thank you for your attention concerning this matter. Please consider the greater good.

TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Pascal.Tesson,

I've left you a reply on my talk page.

Thank You for your prompt response, as for the sense of frustration that you read, that happens when a person is violated and victimized one too many times... I could take you on a tour where I can prove the abuse actually exists. If you have never been abused you might not understand. I didn't deserve the scars that I carry. As a result stepping into the world of global communication and community participant has been a slow process. My paper on the Evolution of Religion is deliberately left opaque for two reasons, one is that the writing is original a violation of Wikipedia rules, second I'm just a lowly American who is the violated victim lacking constitutional rights; a completely foreign concept that goes against what I've been taught.

[Edit inclusion]Okay Proffessor Sir, Are you going to delete the entire Wikipedia Site? A lot of articles could be considered; spam, for promotion, and advertising. No matter how well worded, or if the entry encourages others to participate; we should be working together to build up the community. A good person helps people understand. The job of teachers, and professors, 'is' to share knowledge.

Since you’re such an intelligent person I have a few questions; "have you ever considered the value of the entire planet?" You'll probably give me some relative answer as the question can only be answered relative to 'a value' that is different for each individual. That begs the question, "what is the real value of money?" Now for the final thought or question, "If money really has no value, then why do we make people starve and fight?"

I sure do hope everyone sleeps well... Surrounded with Angels...

TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 03:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi i have question

I was editing bad blue boys on wikipedia i wonder why you deleted photos it is all under no protections... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjz (talk • contribs) 17:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For nothing specific, except that this is long overdue. Here's an Original Barnstar. --Sharkface217 09:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Howdy, tell me more

Howdy, saw your saying at the place where some talk about the e-pol thing, didn't catch a thing. I crossed swords with those e-pol guys in 2001 I think but I thought they were at the WTC when the 9/11 thing and never more have heard about them, tell me more, what is going on, what is the Universal Aid church ? Meteoguy 18:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Sex ratio

Hi, Pascal I think my message was lost in archive, so please let me know what you think.

What if we forget about the theories and hypotheses and start with the facts about sex ratio. For example, please look at the review http://www.geodakian.com/Articles/Articles%20in%20English/Translated%20from%20Russian/1985%20Feedback%20Eng%20transl.doc there are 4 tables that contain organized data to illustrate a relationship (which is in the title):

Table 1 Plants, animals and humans secondary SR (II SR) in relation to tertiary SR

Table 2 Dioecious plants secondary sex ratio (II SR) dependence on the amount of pollen

Table 3 Secondary SR dependence from the intensity of sexual activity (ISA) of males

Table 4 Secondary SR (II SR) dependence from the delayed fertilization of eggs

Each of these relationships can be a small section in the Sex Ratio article. You don't have to mention the interpretation and we can remove harems if you wish (however the data is a data). The Wiki article will look more complete and will provide structure for people to add more data.

P.S. I made 2 new pages: notability and main events. http://www.geodakian.com/en/04_Notability_Citations_en.htm http://www.geodakian.com/en/07_Chronology_&_Milestones_en.htmSashag 18:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I did get your message first time. The approach I proposed is completely different – it’s data-centric. I posted small paragraph under “Examples”. As you may see all the authors cited are well recognized plant biologists. Classical works of Correns can be found in many college text books. None of them are my relatives.Sashag 20:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey what are you deleting my talks for?

What are you doing? Deleting my talks in the pages of others? what's up ? Leave me in peace. I just got around and already picked up a troll? Meteoguy 18:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

	File:Hersfold.JPG	Thanks...
	Thank you for your participation in my recent RfA. Even though you didn't support my candidacy, I did greatly appreciate your comments, which I will certainly put to good use in improving myself as an editor. I do plan to make another request in a few months, once I have improved upon your concerns. Thank you again, and happy editing! Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Speedy deletion of templates

I assume you refer to my tagging of Template:Vietnamesename? I'll take it to WP:TfD, but chances are it will get speedied there anyway. It seems fairly obvious that it's a test and/or nonsense with no meaningful content, and it has no transclusions so that was never a concern. Regards. PC78 14:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Weird, no transclusions were showing up when I clicked on "What links here" (though they are now). No worries, it's already TfD'd. Regards. PC78 15:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Zlclark (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and seriousness of his edits

I noticed you blocked Zlclark (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) for a very serious incident on Roger Federer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). I gave him this warning based on this libelous edit. Did I underestimate the seriousness of this edit, or was there something else that I didn't know about? (I'm just looking for a yes/no answer, not a detailed explanation of his vandalism or a repeat of the libel.) I thought it was just a standard example of vandalism, but if that was something that should have been dealt with and blocked right away for, I should probably know the proper procedures for classifying WP:BLP violations. It's looking like I might become an admin soon, so I should know these things. Thanks. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 15:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Fellé Vega

Too bad this was deleted for a (c) violation, because he is actually a notable World Music performer. Bearian 19:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll have to do it next week ... no time to do concentrated research. Bearian 23:00, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Frank's Birth Year

Every website that on was on say's February 16th 1945 that's his real birthdate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.60.161.6 (talk) 02:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

"A crashing bore"

lol thanks, I got a giggle out of that. ^Ariel♥Gold 04:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

pov-pushing

I saw your concern left on the user in question's talk page and just wanted to let you know to keep an eye out since he is actually known for racial bias and pov-pushing. I filed a case on him here even[1] and before hand for wikistalking. Dangerous editor imo and if he continues, I definitely feel that arbitration is in order.Taharqa 06:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed that you think that an RfC against this user would do no good,[2] but I don't understand why you think this is the case. Alun 11:32, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Well I think an RfC would help for several reasons. It lets the community discuss his behaviour and it gives him a chance to respond. It also allows uninvolved parties to comment as well. But most importantly we need to have a RfC because he is so disruptive, is pushing his POV so much and is edit waring so much that we may at some point need to go to ArbCom, and we cannot do this without first having an RfC. I have seen editors blocked for POV ushing far less than MoritzB. He seems to get a way with a lot more than other editors. He is still POV pushing, disrupting wikipedia and edit warring. He was conciliatory on AN/I, but did not actually change his behaviour on either talk or article pages. I wonder just what he has to do for an admin to actually do something, if warns do not work do you just let the behaviour continue? Some editors seem to be able to get away with a lot more than other editors. If he is an old user that has come back with a new user name, then surely there is a chance he is evading a block. I'm tired and fed up with countering his nonsense. I've had enough of these disputes and the constant lies that come from this sort of editor, and I've had enough of these racist pov pushers being given free reign to disrupt this project and spread their lies and distortions. If the answer is not an RfC, then it must be to let him pollute Wikipedia with his pov, which undermines Wikipedia and makes it anything but neutral. When I talk to my friends about Wikipedia I always tell them that this is not the place to come for reliable information, and I tell them that I know this because I am an editor of Wikipedia and I know how much nonsense is allowed to go on here. Even in a anarchistic community like Wikipedia we do have the sanction of exclusion, but if no one is prepared to start a discussion about his behaviour then the community lacks a forum for this problem. I urge you to reconsider. Alun 06:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Cowboycaleb1

OK. I just wanted to add something to the comment I made. It's just a suggestion, if he follows it, fine. If he doesn't, I won't hold it against him. Davnel03 19:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, maybe I should. Anyway, he signed this post as Cowboycaleb instead of Cowboycaleb1. I think it's just co-incidence I don't think he managed to do it on purpose. Anyway, I'll just leave it alone. Davnel03 08:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		Thanks for deleting the pitch and putt articles so fast! Phoenix 15 22:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

BlazeMaster4R3AL

I understand but the accusations are true and taken from a newspaper article i've been reading i've known of the band for some time i will search online for the article and repost it with an external link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlazeMaster4R3AL (talk • contribs) 06:36, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Why was GG deleted

Hi, why was the article about the order GG deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Webguide (talk • contribs) 14:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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eToro Forex deletion------------------------------------

Hello, Why was the article on eToro forex deleted? eToro Forex is a software, much like other sofwares that exist on wikipedia- the article did not contain a link or a screenshot, nor advertisements of any kind. moreover it is listed as a stand-alone article and has nothing to do with the article about the etoro tribe.

I see no reason why this article should be deleted, if you think something specific was wrong with the article then I will gladly rewrite it so it fits the standarts needed on wikipedia, but deleting the item just because it refers to a company is not reasonable explanation, especially when accusing me of "spamming". please email your reply to etoro.trader@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by AssiToro (talk • contribs) 16:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I will review the links you referred me to and rewrite the article in order for it to comply with the wikipedia standarts. believe it or not but I do not benefit anything from publishing this article. I appreciate your help, if you have any other thoughts please let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AssiToro (talk • contribs) 19:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC) Thank you for your help, I rewrote the article and referred to the mentioned wikipedia links. again- no links, screenshots or ads of any kind.

I put the article in the address you specified. Your review will be highly appreciated, please feel free to mention anything that might seem like spam.

Again- thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by AssiToro (talk • contribs) 12:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello Pascal,

IdoTrad is my brother which knows a lot more about computers than me so he tried to help, I asked him not to edit any more articles and leave it to me because of what you wrote. The version you deleted was my 2nd and re-written version that I entered into the location you told me in order for you to specify what exactly was wrong with it. It cited and referred to another 4 wikipedia terms ( forex, day traders, trading rooms, day trading software ) and mentioned the etoro platform only on it's last line - without a link or screenshot. you can hardly call it advertisement or spam, nor say I haven't referred to the proper sources. Right now I have no idea where what I wrote is, it's not on my page but I'd appreciate if you explain to me why was that article deleted when it was posted on my personal page for your review as you requested. awaiting your reply, AssiToro —Preceding unsigned comment added by AssiToro (talk • contribs) 15:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Categories

Your message here

Commons images categories coming right up. Apols for the oversight. Regards, Anameofmyveryown 02:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Pascal, the crashing bore has ended successfully! Thanks again very much for suggesting that I should consider an RfA and then "gently" pressuring me to do it. Your nomination was greatly appreciated! Please let me know if you think I'm screwing something up, and I may come here for some help, too. Cheers! Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 13:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Wittgenstein

I put it up for speedy because it was re-created out of process, as has happened with so many other things regarding these CFDs. The cat was created initially out of process, it was recreated out of process and the Wittgenstein CFD was closed out of process, all by the same editor. So I don't really need to be chastised about it, thanks. Otto4711 15:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you for your feedback. Rest assured it has been given every bit of consideration it warrants. Otto4711 15:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Dance-pop

I agree the article doesn't deserve a "speedy deletion". I'm still new to Wikipedia, but I authored a previous EXTENSIVE explanation of the genre, yet someone (who obviously had nothing else to do) reverted it to one that quotes NO sources and is grammatically terrible. Are the administrators aware of this problem on Wiki? And -- if you can't have an extensive and concise explanation of what something is and quote sources, wouldn't it just be best to remove it altogether? Mirror Ball

You deleted Awesome Jerry

You deleted my awesome Jerry song, I put a lot of time and effort into that for a friend of mine and he never got to see it. Couldn't you just leave it up for a week or so for kicks and giggles? He's always wanted to be on Wikipedia.

In short: no. Pascal.Tesson 22:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

User:Cowboycaleb1

A week later and he hasn't stopped his disruption, now borderline harrassing me. Since you handled his behavior in the past according to his talk page and block log, I would like for you to review WP:AN/I to see his most recent disruption. As a side note, he has been blocked once since you last conversed with him for similar disruption. — Moe ε 09:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

User:Broer1957

Many thanks for sorting out this user. He/she was giving me the runaround last night and I bowed out at 4am with the intention of sorting it out this morning. You've saved me a job. Well spotted. Many thanks.--WebHamster 10:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Pascal.Tesson 10:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

J. Holiday

An editor has asked for a deletion review of J. Holiday. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Admc2006 19:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Netshops

You had deleted this page on Aug. 08, 2007 due to no "independent sources", however there were "independent sources" listed on the page, Inc. 500 and the Omaha Chamber. I would like to request that you undelete this page.sherrillh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sherrillh (talk • contribs) 21:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

J. Holiday

An editor has asked for a deletion review of J. Holiday. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ۝ ۞ ░ 20:50, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

RfA and debunked "doesn't need the tools"

Could you substantiate the statement that the argument has been debunked? Looking over the archives back through (only) June 2007, the archives are silent. This would be a great item to have substantial documentation for that others could easily read. Can you find several choice conversations? -- Yellowdesk 19:54, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you very much for your support at my RfA. Regards, Jogers (talk) 09:41, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Freeston

The Inspection report IS NOT copyrighted. It is free for all people by the Wakefield Metropolitan Distict Council. Also the IMAGE hasn't been deleted.OsirisV 10:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Mediation

Please either strike the bad faith comments here or let's go to mediation. I am sick and tired of you attacking me at every opportunity with no consensus or reason and therefore if you dont strike your bad faith comments mediation is the only option. Just because soemoen has been in fron of arbcom does not give anymone the right to troll them, a fact you appear to fail to understand in the context of me, SqueakBox 00:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I stick by my assessment. Pascal.Tesson 04:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

DominvsVobiscvm continues to place rejected material on Roman Catholic Sex Abuse Cases

I noticed that you blocked and unblocked this user: DominvsVobiscvm (talk · contribs) asking him to agree with the consensus of editors. Please note that after your warning he has continued to place his material on the page Roman Catholic Sex Abuse cases. It was again removed by another editor. Please block this user from continuing to exhaust all of our time and energy fighting his material. It is currently locked on the page Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Miami and has been for over a month. We little editors need your help. Please help! Thanks. NancyHeise 18:22, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Why did you deleted my page dedicated to the Virlanie Fondation ?

I really do not understand why you deleted my page dedicated to the Virlanie Fondation ? I really don't understand ! Please tell me. User: Virlanie

Bend Over Boyfriend

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Bend Over Boyfriend. Since you rejected the speedy deletion, commented at the AfD, and the article was speedy deleted anyway, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jreferee T/C 00:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Re:Danny Daniel

Which one is it? Pants^(T) 21:07, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Le monde est petit, même sur Wiki

Tomber sur prof du département dans un WP:TfD, Heheh -- Kl4m ^{Talk Contrib} 01:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Religious persecution by Muslims

I think you're pushing it calling that an "attack page". I think there is precedent for deletion (a similar page has been deleted in the past through AfD), but... by deleting it as an attack you seem to be saying that "persecution by X" pages are necessarily attacking. gren グレン 06:00, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah, the page was Historical persecution by Muslims and the reasoning was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Historical persecution by Muslims (2nd nomination). gren グレン 06:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Jantober 301

Hello im the guy who created Jantober301. no i dont relate to Eskimoinsane2. I was only mucking around dont take it seriously anyway symbiosis is real and it happens. Jantober301 is a newspaper thingy that some how relates to science ALWAYS. from Runescape h8er. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Runescape h8er (talk • contribs) 17:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Edokter RfA

Dear Pascal.Tesson, Thank you for your participation in my Request for Adminship, which ended succesfully with 26 supports, 3 opposes and 1 neutral. A special thanks goes to Rlevse for nominating me. I appreciate all the support and constructive criticism offered in my RfA. Please do not hesitate to point out any errors I will make (unintentionally of course), so I won't make them again. Please contact me if you need anything done, that's what I'm here for! — Edokter • Talk • 12:42, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

RE R's RfA

Yes, you're probably right - I'll try and tone it down a little. To be fair, I can understand (and, to some extent, agree with) the argument that RfA candidates should have some substantial content contributions. Certainly the ideal candidate should have participated actively in article-writing. However, I just feel really sorry for R; he's done so much good work for the encyclopedia, and even if he wouldn't be the perfect admin, he's shown numerous times that he's ready for the tools and would know what to do with them. It looks to me like this RfA, like his previous ones, has become something of a wikipolitical battleground, and I just really wish the community would see sense and give him adminship. Walton^One 12:59, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

My RFA

Thank you for your support in my Request for Adminship, which passed with 50 supports, 1 neutral, and 1 oppose. My goal is to keep earning your trust every time I grab the "mop". (And I'm always open to constructive criticism and advice!) Again, thanks. --Fabrictramp 14:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Ronnotel's RfA

I'm limiting thank you spam to just those contributors who made an extra effort on my behalf. I am truly grateful for your support and I hope to live up to your expectations. Ronnotel 13:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Davnel03

Davnel03 is once again at it. first he or she filed a check user case aginst see here. after that and Davnel03 didn't get his or her way he or she then file a sockpuppet case against me see here. it is obvious that he or she will not leave me alone and make constuctive edits to wikipedia. Cowboycaleb 16:32, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I won't be surprised though, if I see a unblock request very soon. Davnel03 21:21, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

If I find any IP vandalism on my talkpage, I'll come here and provide you with diffs, so the correct course of action can be taken. Thanks, Davnel03 21:31, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Unblock request didn't take long. Davnel03 21:32, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

He's requested to be unblocked for the third time. If he asks a fourth time, should his talkpage be locked, as it's clear that he's doing request after request after request. Davnel03 15:21, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. Talkpage protected due to unblock abuse. Davnel03 17:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

request for comment on Hugh Hefner

Please take the time to go to Hugh Hefner's talkpage [3] and respond to the request for comment on what jerrygraf is trying to add that does not belong on Hugh Hefner's page, but belongs on PEI's, as well as the part I deleted is ment as a "controversial comment on the biography of a living person"Rogue Gremlin 04:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)