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I just visited this page: Talk:Daniel De León — these are fascinating quotations, thanks.

And i find this interesting:


Instead of the CONSERVATIVE motto, 'A FAIR DAY'S WAGE FOR A FAIR DAY'S WORK!' they ought to inscribe on their banner the REVOLUTIONARY watchword, 'ABOLITION OF THE WAGES SYSTEM!'"
-- Karl Marx, from "Value, Price and Profit", 1865


There can be no harmony between organized capitalists and organized labor.
Ed Boyce in 1901, who two or three years earlier had brought Bill Haywood, into the WFM; Haywood chaired the IWW's founding convention


The working class and the employing class have nothing in common. There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions of the working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all the good things of life. [...] Instead of the conservative motto, 'A fair day's wage for a fair day's work', we must inscribe on our banner the revolutionary watchword, 'Abolition of the wage system.'
Preamble, Industrial Workers of the World, 1905


Is there any other phraseology in the IWW Preamble that is directly traceable to Marx, or that may come from him through others?

http://www.iww.org/culture/official/preamble.shtml


And, do you have a web page?


Thanks very much — Richard Myers 05:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Hi. I don't even know how to work this thing and answer you, so please tell me if you see my reply :-) The phrase in the IWW preamble was taken directly from Marx, but I'm not sure if there are other borrowings that are so direct. Mainly concepts and terminology were borrowed, rather than phrases. I'm certain that if Marx were alive he would consider the One Big Union model of workers' self-management to be closer to his own thinking than Leninism is. My socialist web page is http://www.deleonism.org/ . See that site's link to its discussion forum. Within that forum, see the link for special instructions on how to get one's user name authorized to post messages there, necessary due to the spam problem. That place also explains where email can be sent to me. My other web site is http://www.crimsonbird.com/ , a small one-guy business that I operate, where I write nonfiction book reviews, mostly history and science. Mike Lepore, Stanfordville, New York 10:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, you did just fine with the reply. Thank you very much for the information. I'll take a look at your website in the coming week. What i've received from you so far has been very interesting and informative. I appreciate it.
best wishes, Richard Myers 10:59, 5 March 2007 (UTC) (in Denver, Colorado)[reply]
Please do not link to your website in Wikipedia articles. This presents a Conflict of Interest. WP:COI. KP Botany 00:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]