User talk:Magnolia677/Archive 27

Cobra Maneuver Edit Revision

Hello, your reasoning for reverting my edit makes no sense, as long as it is a source that shows proof, it doesn't matter regardless of website. If a GIF that shows proof of the Saab 35 doing the maneuver, then a link to a YouTube video is also equally as much as a source as well. Along with being a Source for proof of the F-16 VISTA doing the maneuver also a YouTube link that you didn't delete. Duderocks5539 (talk) 03:20, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Duderocks5539: Does the source say this is the maneuver? Magnolia677 (talk) 10:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: If you bothered to even click the links and watch the videos and look at the title, that should answer your question. Yes, it says and shows the maneuver being done. Duderocks5539 (talk) 18:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Duderocks5539: What is the name of the source cited? Was the video filmed by a reliable source, or by some guy who knows a lot about airplanes and then uploaded their video after going to an airshow? Magnolia677 (talk) 19:02, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: The source is YouTube, it is a reliable source. And it doesn't matter even if it was filmed by a professional or consumer, as long as it shows video evidence that is in real life, of which both videos do, it counts as a source. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize and figure all this out...Duderocks5539 (talk) 19:44, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Duderocks5539: It is for this very reason that a consensus of editors have agreed that YouTube videos like the one we are discussing are generally unreliable as sources for Wikipedia content, per WP:RSPYT. Some guy who really knows a lot about airplanes goes to an airshow and records some plane doing some maneuver, and the guy filming says, "oh that's an F-46 doing the Kamasutra maneuver", so they upload it to YouTube, where some other person watches it and uses it as a source for Wikipedia. Know what happens to Wikipedia if this happens enough? People won't be able to trust Wikipedia, because all the stuff on it is sourced by "some guy". Please take a moment to see what I mean. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:20, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: From what I can see, you are just blind. That " some airplane" in both videos is clearly distinguishable and identifiable as an F-22, and "some maneuver" is also clearly a cobra. The source of the F-16 VISTA doing the maneuver is from YouTube and you didn't roll back that edit, how is 2 separate videos also on YouTube of an F-22 clearly doing the maneuver not "evidence" or a "source" whereas the F-16 VISTA video also on YouTube a reliable "source" of reference then? Please, what is your definition of a "source" then? I'm not reading the page you referenced to because I want to hear your definition of a "credible source", How is a GIF of a Saab 35 doing the maneuver a more credible source? Your logic does not hold any weight, people like you shouldn't be editing a rolling back others edits' then... Duderocks5539 (talk) 05:37, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Verifiability Policy

Hi @Magnolia677:, I am new to Wikipedia and would love to improve my edits and contributions. You removed parts of my edit due to the verifiability policy. I am unsure what parts of the contribution were not verifiable. The sources are in Dutch as the University of Groningen is a Dutch institution and finding comparable sources in English is nearly impossible. Could you point me to where I went wrong so I can improve and add some value?

Thank you in advance! (JoshStev (talk) 01:05, 1 December 2021 (UTC))

@JoshStev: You added text plus a source to support your text. When I looked at the source, it did not support your text, so I deleted your edits. Please see WP:CITEWEB: "Please link to the URL of the specific web page where the referenced content can be found". Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

I would also like you to stop deleting my factual posts. If you find them in question, please look them up to verify. Thanks.

@Magnolia677 Each of my sources are factual. Please do not remove information based on your own conservative values. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pensadora956 (talk • contribs) 01:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC) I agree with this poster. @Magnolia677 removes content without performing their due diligence to make sure that deletions are justified. I am new to this community but this individual would be a first I would flag for unconstructive contributions if this pattern of behaviour continues.

Allen Texas Election History Edit Reversion

Hi. You reverted an edit I made to the page of the city of Allen Texas, citing that the edit had "unsourced content" and a "dead link;" however, I could not find any dead links in any part of my edit that you reverted. I followed the same citation conventions for city election results that pages for cities like Dallas, Richardson, and Plano use in simply linking to County election result archive pages. All of the data I used to calculate the election result totals could be found in the documents available on that page. Did I format my citation incorrectly? I would like more details regarding why my edits were reverted due to the amount of time it took to gather and analyze the information I used for it. OutlawRun (talk) 22:12, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@OutlawRun: You sourced your edit with this link. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:26, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Yes I did. The link works perfectly fine for me and takes me to the right place. Was the issue that the citation was a link in and of itself and not formatted like a regular citation? OutlawRun (talk) 22:31, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@OutlawRun: The link doesn't work. I tried it on two browsers, and an anonymous proxy based in the US. All bring back the message: "This page can't be displayed. Contact support for additional information. The Occurance Number is: N/A." Magnolia677 (talk) 23:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: I don't know what is going wrong with the link or why it is not working for you. I went ahead and copied over the citation from Dallas' page onto this one. The links both citations use are exactly the same, but maybe this one will work better because it is formatted in the same way as a page that uses the same citation for the same purpose. OutlawRun (talk) 23:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@OutlawRun: Does the link https://www.collincountytx.gov/elections/election_results/Pages/result_archive.aspx work for you? Magnolia677 (talk) 23:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Yes. It does. OutlawRun (talk) 23:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

If you would like, here are some links you can use if you want to verify yourself that my data is legit.

Document with 2020 Election Results in Collin County: https://www.collincountytx.gov/elections/election_results/Archive/2020/11032020/November%203,%202020%20Combined%20Statement%20of%20Votes%20Cast.pdf

My own spreadsheet where I tabulated all of this data together: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jv1w0r8gqlBEYKYaaRz4_w1EEQa0QX14KFgFSXYK8_M/edit?usp=sharing

A precinct map for Collin County where you can verify which precincts are in the City of Allen: https://gis.collincountytx.gov/ccmap_mainvp/main.html

I hope these are helpful in resolving this issue. OutlawRun (talk) 23:34, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@OutlawRun: I have left a message at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Website showing as dead. They are a wonderful group of volunteers. Perhaps someone there can help figure out why the website works for you, but brings back errors for me. Thank you for your forbearance. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:44, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Longview, TX Revision

Thanks for monitoring the Longview, TX page so closely. It's a big help.

I undid your revision removing the listing of directors. It's totally a judgement call, but without that information the entire section is lacking.

Thanks again. Your edits make the City of Longview's presence on Wikipedia better!

Icewolf1990 (talk) 20:13, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Icewolf1990: A consensus of editors at WP:USCITIES#Government have agreed that the level of detail you added is unnecessary. Please discuss on the article's talk page before reverting again. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:05, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Quincy University

I went back to the list at Quincy University and should have added back the dates (after having ENSURED that the source is fully verifiable WITHIN the LEAD of the article being pulled from). Please take another look if you'd like. Also, I didn't notice a prior edit from you on Quincy University, what brought you to that page? Thanks for the feedback regardless, I am getting the hang of this whole process you were asking for finally, it may add several steps, but I think it is best in the end... ♥Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk)♥ 23:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Ski Cross Image Deletion

Hi. You deleted an image from the page Ski Cross mentioning that it has no improvements. I have got that picture from a member already working with their team. Kindly undelete that picture. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt Pascal (talk • contribs) 18:20, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@Matt Pascal: Two editors, myself and User:Ohnoitsjamie, have deleted your photos. Please take a moment to read MOS:IMAGES. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

--Matt Pascal (talk) 11:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC) Appreciated. I just want to know if it was the picture quality issue or any other reason. Kindly help. --Matt Pascal (talk) 11:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

@Matt Pascal: I did not see how the image improved the article, per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Basically that image showed ski cross racers in front of their club house. The image seemed relevant to the page and one of the key racers of that group sent me that image to upload it on that page. Is there any possibility that you can re upload that image?Matt Pascal (talk) 13:05, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Your licensing claim for that photo was dubious at best. It's clearly a scan from a magazine or print, yet you claim it as your own work. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 13:37, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Edit

I'm new to using Wikipedia, I'm not sure how to directly message, but I was hoping to discuss what I did wrong with my citations on my owyhee county addition. Billy the kid12 (talk) 18:30, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Billy the kid12: Thank you for writing. You made a long edit, and then added your sources in the edit summary, but they should have been added to the body of the text. I left a message on your talk page with a link which will help you. If you get stuck let me know. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:40, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Owyhee county

I watched a YouTube video and I think I added the citations correctly this time, does it look good now? Billy the kid12 (talk) 18:43, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Billy the kid12: Thanks for adding that. It passes the test for a reference, but it could be a bit more detailed. Have a look at the link I left you. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 21:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Just wanted to bring this to your attention..

I just wanted to bring [1] this to your attention. Wasn't sure if it was appropriate for this user to take your warranted warnings off his talk page, especially since they clearly have a problem being civil, looking through their edit summary. Spf121188 (talk) 20:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Spf121188: Thanks for that. They can remove the warning if they like (it means they read it). Cheers!

Fair enough! Just wanted to make sure :) Happy editing and cheers! Spf121188 (talk) 21:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Spf121188: It's all in WP:UP#CMT. Whenever I message an editor about a problem, I always check their talk page history first to see what's been deleted. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:25, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

FYI

Hi Magnolia,

I just wanted to make you aware of this appeal. I've also included a request for a 1-way IBAN in the event the user is unblocked. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:06, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

@Nosebagbear: Thanks for the info. I still have their talk page on my watchlist, and have been keeping an eye on recent events. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 12:20, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

@Nosebagbear: Are my pings turned off? Do you know how I can turn them back on? Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 12:22, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I took that judgement because Nick said they were switched off during that discussion, I may be wrong!. Let's test - if @Magnolia677: works, you should have multiple notifications appear when I write on your talk page Nosebagbear (talk) 12:27, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

@Nosebagbear: Just one notification. I'll dig around in my preferences and see if I turned them off. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 12:29, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I love all animal, but cat is one of my favorite

Robert Mac Denise (talk) 18:49, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy new year!

	Have a happy New Year filled with light and magic!
	Hi Magnolia677, Best wishes that the new year brings peace, prosperity, health and happiness. Thank you for everything you do for the encyclopedia and this community. Image: New Year's Eve Foxfires at the Changing Tree, Oji, Utagawa Hiroshige, woodcut, 1857 Netherzone (talk) 00:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Netherzone (talk) 00:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

@Netherzone: Thank you very much. All the best for a great 2022! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:30, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Deleting information about school

Hello, I have written about a district program that is at the prince of wales secondary school. I have read the guidelines and there is no promotional material. It is the most highly sought after program in the school district and should not be effectively erased from Wikipedia. The program is at risk of being taken away and having it repeatedly removed from Wikipedia is not making the situation any better. Why should the existence of such a program be removed from Wikipedia? The same standards are not being applied to the rest of the article. Gratefulsloth (talk) 18:41, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

@Gratefulsloth: You added a paragraph about a district-wide program called "Prince of Wales Mini School", which is located inside Prince of Wales Secondary School. The only source you cited was the school website. I went looking online for a secondary source to support the notability (not existence) of "Prince of Wales Mini School", and found nothing. A consensus of editors who created WP:WPSCH/AG frown upon relying on school websites to support edits, and while WP:PRIMARY does not forbid the use of primary sources, you have done so to support text for a non-notable program. This makes your edit promotional. Please find a reliable secondary source to support your edit. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:19, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Please have the same standards for the rest of the programs offered on the page- every other program cites only the school website. I would consider a program such as the Mini School with 140 students more notable than the program with 8 students (GOLD, on the same page, left untouched by you). Nevertheless, I have added multiple sources. Gratefulsloth (talk) 23:39, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Nina Hartley is very notable for her feminism. She published several articles, spoke at universities and is a founding member for a feminist porn foundation. The fact that you can't wrap your head around that or are willing to do research your self is your own issue but not that of the worlds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.183.232.66 (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Henderson

I'm new so I don't know alot about this but Indians should probably be changed to native americans to avoid confusion, how should links be done for refrence and is the flag not good?AidenCasteel (talk) 01:36, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Dermot Seymour, List of Northern Irish artists

Hi. Can you please explain the reasoning for removing this artist from the NI list when he is clearly notable? Suburbanabstrakt (talk) 14:53, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Suburbanabstrakt: My edit summary was clear as a mud-free river. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:28, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello again. Indeed it was. Very clearly you are mistaken in this instance: "Not Notable" -Aosdana is the premier cultural institution in Ireland, the elite of the elite if you like. Inclusion is from election by one's peers only, and membership is strictly limited to 250 members. RUA is one the leading artist organisations in Ireland, of which Seymour has also been elected to it's second tier through a rigorous election and election process. Seymour has shown internationally virtually every year since 1981 in New York, Berlin and Ireland. Highly notable. "Wikipedia article was deleted" -the Wikipedia article was deleted due to plagiarism, not on grounds of notability. Amen. Suburbanabstrakt (talk) 17:36, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Suburbanabstrakt: I challenge that this person meets WP:ARTIST. Please seek consensus on talk page. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:11, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Venice, FL

Hello ! I saw that you reverted my edit for Venice, Florida where I added more detail about the Higel family. They were one of the earliest pioneers to the area. I believe adding more details about their lives and what they did in Venice contributes to that history and helps provide some context for who settled the area. Can you explain why you think it's out of scope for the article? Thanks! Amscheip (talk) 18:58, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@Amscheip: Hi, you wrote:

"In 1892, Frank Higel killed himself during a domestic dispute, but his family remained in Florida. The 1897 Manatee County directory listed only 16 residents in the Venice area, including at least half of Frank's children. Frank Jr. became a school teacher in Venice while Ralph and George remained to work the family's farm. George also became the Venice correspondent for the Sarasota Times, using the pen-name "Nemo" after his father's schooner."

What's this got to do with an article about a city in Florida? None of these people are notable. How does this fit with WP:USCITIES and WP:BALASP? Magnolia677 (talk) 19:10, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: I understand that by most standards they aren't famous, but they are notable for being early pioneers. And they were notable enough to have their lives recorded by a county government historical report. Most towns are founded by non-notable people. It fits with WP:USCITIES because it is a "Brief note about historical roots/founding." As far as WP:BALASP is concerned, a description of the family is part of describing the town's history. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any local history that doesn't cover the lives of otherwise non-notable people. Would it help if I added even more description to give some weight as to how Higel and his family impacted the town? They bought and developed several dozen acres of land (a lot for a small town like Venice) and Frank helped get a post office established. I am trying to work in good faith here but I also think that removing facts about the area's early history doesn't help anyone. Amscheip (talk) 19:39, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@Amscheip: You are welcome to revert. I'll start a discussion on the talk page. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:20, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Denton County Overzealous Deletions and Assertions of Ownership

I went through and added sources to the notable people that you repeatedly deleted that I had added. I also used your standards to delete other unsourced "notable people" for Denton County -- some of which like Gordon McClendon, Sly Stone and Texas Watson I had added personally under another name in the past -- as they did not meet your standards but had somehow escaped your watchful eye. I would recommend their restoration of course. I was born and raised in Denton and am baffled by your selective and un-constructive deletion efforts which are arbitrary (as I demonstrate) and lack due diligence (which I also demonstrate). I appreciate the dedication of volunteers who add information and hope you can be a more constructive member of this community in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XhainXpert (talk • contribs) 20:31, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

I have made citations requested. Please review the definition of Overzealous Deletion WP:OVERZEALOUS, specifically WP:POORLY which is called an "invalid reason to delete". Let me cite in its entirety here for your benefit:

  "Many newbies will write often short articles that show poor grammar, text, and overall writing and wiki skills. Even the initial creation of a page from a veteran editor (following additional 
  edits to improve it) may not have the tidiest appearance. This does not mean the subject is not worthy of an article.

   Articles about subjects that are probably notable, are poorly written, or even those that lack references (unless they are biographies) can be tagged to let others know of the deficiency. This    
   will let others who read the pages in the future know of these problems and potentially be able to fix them."

Also please look at the subcategories for "asserting ownership" of a page and threatening "no edit orders contrary to policy" as forms of WP:BULLY. The Denton, County page and other pages about North Texas are open for everyone to edit.

Struggles with Valid Reason for Deletion Policy

You seem continue to be struggling with the "invalid reason for deletion" policy. I have made a good faith effort to address your concerns. I am delighted to see that you have stopped your repeatedly deleting the additions I made to the Denton County. Unfortunately, you continue to do so under the Shady Shores entry. As mentioned in the restoration on the Shady Shores page, an appropriate course of action would be to flag "citation needed" and mention it on my page. I would again refer you to the "Overzealous Deletion" and sub-definitions on "asserting ownership" under Wikipedia's Bullying Policy above. A review of these policies could help you to de-escalate. I wish you the best of luck in your further Wiki endeavours.

Deletions in Town of Caledon page section about culture.

I am knowledgeable about culture in the Town of Caledon, being a long-time volunteer board member of the non-profit organization Headwaters Arts (HA) and co-founder of the Alton Mill Arts Centre (AMAC). I added some additional information about culture in the Town of Caledon, Ontario, Canada, including about HA and the AMAC, properly referenced to reputable websites. You deleted some of my additions and most of what had been posted by previous editors, with the note "trim promo". But curiously you didn't delete references to HA or AMAC altogether (as you shouldn't as they are the principal cultural agencies in the Town). What you did trim was not promotional and your change turned a factual statement into an incorrect one. Specifically, Caledon is part of the Region of Peel. The Town of Caledon has a dearth of directly municipally-owned cultural facilities (aside from its libraries) but its records are held in, and stories told by the the Regionally-run, Peel Art Gallery Museum and Archives(PAMA), which happens to be located in the abutting municipality of Brampton (also part of Peel Region). So the previous editor had rightly said Caledon's records are held and stories told by PAMA in neighbouring Brampton. Your edit now incorrectly states that PAMA is an art gallery in Caledon, which it isn't and eliminated the context. I had also added that PAMA curated an exhibit about the industrial heritage of Alton (a village in Caledon) at the AMAC, which is true and was footnoted back to the PAMA website. Jordan (talk) 00:03, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

@Jordan Grant: You are in a conflict of interest, adding promo material to articles about organizations you are associated with. I will leave more information on your talk page. Please note that Wikipedia is not your Facebook page. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:13, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

I understand. I have expanded the section to include more cultural facilities and make it more accurate and more complete. I did refrain from restoring the reference to who collaborated to create the Alton Mill Arts Centre, as that is the only thing that I could think of that might have led to your comment about "promo". If there is anything else you think is promotional or inappropriate, please edit more judiciously or better yet, reply to this comment with your specific objections and I will make the edit.

I see your comment on my talk page. I'm fairly new to the back end. Is there another method for me to "reply"? I am not being paid. I am doing this as a volunteer. I did disclose my relationship to Headwaters Arts and the Alton Mill on my user page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jordan Grant (talk • contribs) 01:17, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Why did you delete all the article's information? Also I thought I added an article to Chaedria Labouvier https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/06/157304/aunt-raising-kids-mothers-against-police-violence — Preceding unsigned comment added by DustyLosAngeles (talk • contribs) 18:06, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

@DustyLosAngeles: Which article? Magnolia677 (talk) 14:44, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Edit warring warning

I'm sure you know leaving an edit summary like "Please seek a consensus to remove this on the talk page, and stop edit warring." as you continue your edit war is grounds for an WP:EW block. If you didn't, you do now. Toddst1 (talk) 23:42, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

@Toddst1: I guess this user hasn't really learned: They're currently edit warring with me instead of individually removing content they disagree with, then threatening me with a block. Seems hypocritical. SilentRevisions (talk) 13:55, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Centreville, Mississippi Notable people

If you look at the source I cited:

http://www.nasonline.org/publications/biographical-memoirs/memoir-pdfs/thurstone-louis.pdf

You'll see that page 3 of the sources says that Louis Leon Thurstone was educated in Centreville, Mississippi. 216.14.157.170 (talk) 20:22, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

I missed that. Still, going to school someplace doesn't make you notable there, per WP:USCITIES#Notable people. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:34, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Haverhill, Massachusetts Revision

Thank you very much for reverting the work I made to Haverhill, Massachusetts. I also applaud you for leaving crap on my talk page stating i was adding uncited information when I was literally only moving around the information already provided in the article. The article is a complete mess, is never touched, and has the worst grammar one can read, however when one idiot (me) decides to waste 2 hours to try and fix it, I am slapped with a revision deleting all of my work. Thanks but no thanks. SilentRevisions (talk) 23:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@SilentRevisions: I didn't caution you about unsourced content; I cautioned you about making test edits. Why did you add so much bolding to this edit? What's Wikipedia's policy about bolding? Also, you wrote that the Riverside" area has "residential developments, Holy Family Hospital, Trinity Stadium, and the Riverside Plaza Shopping Center". Really? How do you know? Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with editing, and feel free to add your information back when it is corrected and sourced. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:20, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Well I guess the bolding can be removed, I just thought it looked better, however the other edits I wrote about the Riverside area are because I literally live in this city. SilentRevisions (talk)

@SilentRevisions: Thank you for responding. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not accept original research. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:31, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: Thank you for responding. Unfortunately, you just reverted all of the edits I made last night, which included sourced content from the Eagle Tribune, an official news source in Massachusetts. Due to this, I will be reverting the version of the article to it's previous state. If you do not agree with "Original research" please remove that individually, rather than simply deleting all of the edits I have made. Continuously removing my edits is bullying and also Edit warring. Thanks. SilentRevisions (talk) 13:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Cary, North Carolina

Can we talk? You just reverted about 5 hours of my work because you say that I used a blog as a source. I have a masters in library science and a masters in history. I assure you that I did not use a blog. What I did was correct factual errors, found and added citations to unsourced statements, and added a significant amount of content to the history section-all new content was correctly cited using a UNC Press book, a variety of newspaper articles. NCpedia (published by the NC History Museum), an article from the Cary Heritage Museum, etc. I also used CaryFood which is NOT a blog. It is part of CaryCitizen.news which is the enewspaper/ezine that was established with the print newspaper Cary News went out of business. This is an actual e-newspaper with editors and sales/ad staff. If you are truly against that source, I will find another--but please do not remove hours of work, including the bulk of information that has no relationship to FoodCary. Thanks for your consideration. Rublamb (talk) 21:18, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

@Rublamb: This source is written by a group of local volunteers. One of the strengths of Wikipedia is that it insists on reliable sources. Please take a moment to read Help:Referencing for beginners. Also, it is very difficult for other editors to tease out poorly sourced text from a very large edit. Thanks for your understanding. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:01, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

@Rublamb: Please add back your text that was reliably sourced. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:33, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: This source is credible as it is from a history museum: The Cary Cultural Center and the Page Walker Arts & History Center. I understand that it can be confusing when a corporation is DBA something other than their legal name (Friends of the Page Walker) and then uses the legal name on their website. However, this organization has published several (and the only current) books on the history of Cary. They conduct research and create the museum's exhibits. They conducted oral history interviews that are now part of the collection of Wilson Library at UNC Chapel Hill. They provide guided history tours of Cary and work with teachers. This info is all from their website. I also learned from articles in the News and Observer newspaper that this group has involved scholars, librarians, and researchers from the beginning. Why do I know all of this--because I researched the credibility of this source before I used it. Furthermore, whether or not a author is a volunteer or paid is not the sole determining factor in its credibility, as we must also consider the publisher and the quality of the writing itself. When I was the director of an nonprofit historical society with a staff of two, we had a PhD in history write a book for us to publish as a fundraiser. He wasn't paid. We weren't big and did business as the museum, rather than our legal name. Yet, I think you would agree the resulting book was credible. And, remember, you too are just a volunteer.

I know I added a lot of content, but the guidelines are to discuss rather than delete, unless the content is vandalism or defaming or the like. Even if this source was sketchy, we both know it was over the top for you to remove all edits rather than the one associated with the citation you didn't like. Such aggressive deletion is also against Wikipedia's guidelines--and we have already agreed that you initially deleted the totality of my content in error because you thought a source was a blog. The bottom line is that it is much easier for you to simply undo your delete than for me to reinsert all of that content. I again respectfully ask that you reverse your deletion. I am totally willing to revisit where I use the citation you dislike to see if it can be replaced or removed entirely. I stand by it, but know there are many other sources out there, including something you will agree to. Oh, and am I a beginner? I started in 2016, just never set up my user page until recently.... Rublamb (talk) 02:27, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

@Rublamb: My apology for judging this source unreliable. Although user generated, it passes the threshold for reliability. Please add your edit back. Sorry for the confusion. Magnolia677 (talk)

10:15, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Magnolia677 As you have seen, I am trying to rebuild the intro for Cary. The other day, I took updated population stats and took out a dated fact since I couldn't fine an update. Then the other person moved stuff and cut until it was too basic. Happy to have your help as it is difficult to know where to start==and I know you have more experience with city pages. I was trying to follow the guidelines. You probably saw that I moved the metro area back to the top with a source. (maybe the other person will leave it there now that there is a source?) I am afraid someone will cut my history in the intro thinking it doesn't belong there. We shall see. Also wanted to let you know that I am fine with your edits to my text. I much prefer an edit or a note that a citation is needed than a delete. So thanks for that approach! A few FYI items. 1) Cary does touch RTP--looks like this is why they annexed into Chatham County. See this map [[2]]. 2) With the notable businesses, all I did was add two names (with sources and updates to their Wikipedia pages) and turn the list into a paragraph with some text edits. I thought it looked weird having two lists with different formats in the same sections. I actually like it without the corporate descriptions. That was a great edit on your part==I wasn't gusty enough to cut that that existing text. Also, I did not check the existing companies, again trusting the prior content provider. Apparently the companies you removed were fine until I made an edit to that section? Or maybe you had not looked at that section. Hope it was the latter. LOL. I will see if there is anything in the newspapers and update articles if it makes sense. 3) I figured someone would hate a public art list. The list looked awful, so I tried an table. It looked awful too. So I get it, just talk to me first, please. Rublamb (talk) 13:26, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Rublamb: My map didn't show the research park next to the city, but your map is probably more accurate. A good resource is WP:USCITIES. I only have a few more layout edits. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:30, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677: I am so confused by your post on my page. You indicate that I am removing your sourced text. I have not removed anything. All I have done is reedit the text that I wrote with the sources that I added. On the other hand, you have removed a bunch of sourced text that lots of people worked on. You want me to respect the edits you make to my text, but seem to lack that same respect for others. Maybe because you have gotten into the groove of editing rather than creating content, you forget how much time and effort is put into finding sources and writing text. But from my perspective, I am the content creator who work is being edited by you, not the other way around. If you want to talk or seek arbitration, I am willing. There has to be better way.... Thanks, Rublamb (talk) 04:21, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@Magnolia677:I am adding the section on the Green Level Historic District back as, this area in in Cary as can clearly been seen in the maps provided here [[3]] and on the the town website here [[4]]. You must be looking at sources that are really old.Rublamb (talk) 12:13, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Ohio Sanborn maps

Hello Magnolia 677. As requested, I have added my affiliation to my user account (Higher ed- we are not profiting off add our Wikimedia images to the articles). Please advise if you have suggestions for adding the Sanborns into the town/city pages. These historical maps are fantastic resources for people doing research on historical home renovation, architecture, geography, public history and genealogy. I am a digital librarian hoping to connect our open access free digital collections to interested researchers. We went through a lot of work last year to have this digital collection harvested into the digital public library of America (DPLA), who then in turn pushed our out of copyright images into Wikimedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdressle (talk • contribs) 22:06, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

@Vdressle: I am glad you are adding these maps to the Commons, where they are a valuable addition. My concern is when you spam them to multiple Wikipedia articles, where they are of little benefit. I believe you are a paid editor, so I would caution you again not to continue adding these maps. Thanks for your understating. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

I am adding these on my own time (outside my regular job) and am not getting compensated for adding these. Just hoping these will be of interest or value to these communities. I tend work on these in small stretches of time as I am available. I do not personally benefit from this- just simply hoping to make these maps more discoverable and findable. Vdressle (talk) 23:06, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

City pronunciations

Hi Magnolia677. Hope things are going well. I have a question for you: I recently created an article called Sipe Springs, Comanche County, Texas. I want to add a pronunciation tag to it because in the History section of the article, you can see that it is pronounced as "seep". The sentence "It was named for the nearby springs that appeared to "seep" out of rock formations" can give you an idea. I want to do what was done in articles such as Gnadenhutten, Ohio and Delhi, Texas regarding the pronunciation, if you know what I am talking about. How do I go about doing that? Or should I not add it since it is already mentioned in the article? Thank you for reading, and I hope to get a response from you soon. Colman2000 (talk) 06:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Colman2000: I often see pronunciations added to the first sentence, but I'm not familiar with how to create them. I know there are a few editors who are very good with these. Try WP:HD. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:34, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! I actually don't need to do that anymore, as I looked at the article of Serbia for help. How does my article of Sipe Springs look now? Colman2000 (talk) 16:48, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Citrus Heights, California

I noticed you had reverted an edit from a former IP address in regards to the controversy section. I know WP is not a news section but it is notable due to the amount of reports done on the news for this area: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stones_Gambling_Hall_Cheating_Scandal_(aka_Postlegate)

If there is a way it can be added to the section let me know. 2601:642:4400:9F00:147E:6065:D29:A6AC (talk) 02:54, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@2601:642:4400:9F00:147E:6065:D29:A6AC: Thanks for writing. I added it to the "see also" section. You may want to add a sentence-long description so readers know what the link is about. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 08:55, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Removing sourced content

Please do not remove cited content without a WP policy-backed reason, as you did on Cate Blanchet. You searched up one word on the article and indiscriminately removed all mention of it, despite it being cited. WP:VERIFY. Lapadite (talk) 06:40, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

@Lapadite: Thank you for writing. The content was over-the-top puffery. Do you feel it improved the article? Magnolia677 (talk) 08:53, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Replying on the talk page. --Lapadite (talk) 21:25, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Removing sourced content

Regarding A-ha discography. Source added. Now, let it be ! Mortyman (talk) 00:32, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

February 2022 - Lake Kenosia

Hello. Although the plaque may not be considered a reputable source, the postcard from Western Connecticut State University's Digital Archives does serve as historical evidence that "Kenosha" was an alternative spelling for the lake. With that said, when looking at the Wiktionary page for "Kenosha," it is defined as "pike" / "pickerel" in two Indigenous languages. This definition matches the plaque that was cited exactly. It is my belief that including the etymology would be very beneficial for the article. How many additional sources will be needed to serve as evidence of the alternative spelling "Kenosha" for that detail to be reverted back? Thank you. CLJ (talk). — Preceding undated comment added 23:37, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

@CityLimitsJunction: Thank you for writing. I removed the information from the plaque because it does not appear a reliable source. One part of the plaque actually mentions the specific source it used, James M. Bailey. But for the origins of Lake Kenosia, the plaque gives a vague "said to originate from a Native American word meaning pike or pickerel". Said by who? Wiktionary is also not a reliable source, per WP:CIRC. This article gives a detailed history of the region, but says nothing of the lake's Native American name. I have also been unable to find any source to support what is written on the plaque. For these reasons, I am reluctant to add something with such vague sourcing. You are welcome to start a discussion on the talk page. Other editors may have a source to support your edit.

As for the lake's variant names, there is no need to find additional sources; the origin source you added to the article already list them. My question is, why do you want to list all the variant names? I added "Mill Plain Pond" because there was some unique history to that name. All the others look like typos along the way. If you look at various lakes listed in GNIS, some of them have 10 or more variant names, though rarely are all the typos and non-notable variants listed in the Wikipedia article about the lake. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Stop Asian Hate

I'm not sure if you're editing because of Steven Crowder's nonsense but your edits are SYNTH at best. EvergreenFir (talk) 01:03, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Let me correct my edit summary: the data are from NCVS, not NIBRS. In NCVS the unknown is about 1 out of 10 and all race categories of offenders are based on the perception of the victim. NCVS is a self-report survey with a nationally representative (weighted) sample. EvergreenFir (talk) 01:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: Thank you for writing. Yesterday I read an article about the increase in violent crime against Asians. This led me to seek out reliable information about these terrible crimes, and after about one minute of searching I came across a summary of criminal victimization data, published annually by the US Department of Justice. On page 13, Table 14, you will find the data I added to three articles about crimes against Asian Americans. It seemed relevant to each article to include reliable data about the number of violent offenses committed against Asian Americans, as well as information about the offenders. It would be difficult to find a more neutral and reliable source.

You reverted one of my edits with the edit summary "rubbish", and now you claim that DOJ data--obtained from a single table--is a "synth". Moreover, you have inferred that I was inspired by a podcaster I've never watched or even heard of, whose Wikipedia article describes him as a "conservative political commentator" with a history of "racist and homophobic slurs". I'm not sure if this is all some sort of intimidation tactic, but your response to my good faith edits is both upsetting and unwelcome. May I ask you to please strike out your reference above to Steven Crowder? Please also take a moment to read WP:GF. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:38, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

I apologize for the "rubbish" comment as I find myself emotional about this topic and the external campaign by Crowder and his followers to paint a racist narrative around anti-Asian hate crimes (I am not saying you are one of those people). I will strike the comment. I will respond to the substance of the edits on Talk:Stop_Asian_Hate#Bureau_of_Justice_Statistics_Figure. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:01, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Mill Plain, Danbury, Connecticut

Hello. Please feel free to make revisions on Draft:Mill Plain, Danbury, Connecticut to prepare it for the mainspace. Thank you. CLJ (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@CityLimitsJunction: Thanks for asking. I made a few copyedits, but a few others I'll leave with you:

• The link to Mill Plain (disambiguation) is red.
• Neither of the external links are necessary.
• I would keep two images at the most, per WP:IG.
• Get rid of the infobox flag.
• Is it a district, village, hamlet, or unincorporated area? Pick one and stick to it. If it's an unincorporated area, these are typically called "unicorporated communities" on US city articles, and you can also call them "the settlement" and "the community" to add some variety. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 19:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Refference on Qa Qc removed

Hai Magnolia677, I added a reference blog to the qa qc section for it to be more informative. My blog covers a lot of areas and I thought it would be very informative! Would love to see that reference being kept back. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nifan Nifu (talk • contribs) 11:45, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Re: March 2022

Hello Magnolia677. I am replying to your message to confirm that I am not receiving any compensation for my edits and am only adding the edits to update relevant information regarding the article. Anonymouse2021 (talk) 19:09, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Chicago Fire Department, and others

The same person who has been blocked with the other ip address that he was using is back and at it again. I'm no angel but this guy is doing disruptive editing. Wugapodes and Oshwah were of help last time I contacted them and they had him blocked. Doriden (talk) 00:09, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Doriden: Thanks for that. I'll have a look tomorrow. Feel free to report them to WP:AIV if they cross the line. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Chicago Fire Department and others

Forgot to sign it. Sorry Doriden (talk) 00:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Doriden: That IP and others have since been blocked. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Sir Doriden (talk) 09:27, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

However, the one up address 172.58.172.231 is only blocked for 31 hours. Thanks again, Doriden (talk) 09:33, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Doriden: I'll keen an eye on it. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:54, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks again, the on up address that he was using is blocked for 6 months by Drmies that was 172.58.188.128. However this other ip address 172.58.188.231 is only blocked for 31 hours. Then he will be back doing the same BS again. Another ip address that he was using about 5 or 6 months ago has been blocked for 18 months if I remember correctly. Thanks again, Doriden (talk) 11:05, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Doriden: If you see it continuing, you may want to ask for a range block of this IP address. In the past I have found User:Oshwah very helpful with range blocks. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:58, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

OK thanks Doriden (talk) 12:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Moose Jaw

Why did you undo my edit on the Moose Jaw page? Whitebro (talk) 03:26, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

@Whitebro: This was your edit. You added three links to the 2011 census, and gave each a different name. You also added population data without adding a source. With so many errors in such a short edit, it looked like a "test edit" by a new editor. Magnolia677 (talk) 08:08, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

About the Third Opinion request: The request made at Third Opinion has been removed (i.e. declined). Like all other moderated content dispute resolution venues at Wikipedia, Third Opinion requires thorough talk page discussion before seeking assistance. If an editor will not discuss, consider the recommendations which are made here. But a couple of notes: First, Magnolia677 has the right to remove material from this, their user talk page. That right is one of the reasons that discussion about a dispute with an article should take place at the article talk page where no such right exists. On the other hand, removal of material from a user talk page is an acknowledgment that the page's owner has read the material. Second, I express no opinion as to whether Magnolia677's reasoning for removal is sound, but I would note that Whitebro's objection (in the material removed from this talk page) that if his addition is to be removed due to being unsourced then all of the unsourced material should be removed is specious. The existence of improper material is never a justification to add additional improper material. Perhaps the rest of the material should be removed (or not, I express no opinion about that), but if it should, it is not Magnolia677's obligation to do it in order to remove additional improper material. To conclude, I'd recommend that Whitebro make a proposal for changing the page on the article talk page and if no one objects, then implement it; if someone objects then discuss it and attempt to achieve consensus. — TransporterMan (TALK) 19:32, 21 March 2022 (UTC) (Not watching this page)

Suffern, New York

Why did you revert my addition of Peter Daszak as a notable resident of Suffern, New Work. You added a comment 'not notable'. Then why does Peter Daszak have a Wikipedia page? dmode (talk) 07:57, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

@Boul22435: Thank you for writing. I removed his name because there was no source supporting that he ever lived in Suffern. Because you didn't leave a source, I looked on his Wikipedia article, and there was no mention there of Suffern. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:28, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

March 2022

A ridiculous cat

Please excuse my erroneous edit, likely a mistaken rollback or revert caused by my fat fingers, hypnagogia, or one of my ridiculous cats. I have likely self reverted or noticed the mistake after you corrected it. Again, my apologies. Thank you. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:31, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: Not a problem! Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 17:14, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

User:CatDog2020

Hi Magnolia677. This editor has responded to your post at c:COM:VPC#New Flickr account and is asking for assistance. Another editor has already them information that helps explains what they need to do, but Commons doesn’t really care about WP:COI and the creating of articles on any of the various Wikipedias. Advising them of such things is probably best done on their Wikipedia user talk page. Since you’ve already posted something, perhaps you should also be the one to explain to them about COI editing and what things are going to be expected of them. If you’re not sure how to do so, then try taking a look at WP:COI#How to handle conflicts of interest. An important thing to remember is that more leeway is usually given to COI editors working in the draft namespace than in the article namespace, and things should be OK as long as they submit drafts via AfC. They should be made aware, however, that the situation does change once a draft is approved and they will then be expected to more closely follow established policies and guidelines. If you already know all of what I’m posting about above, then my apologies for assuming otherwise. — Marchjuly (talk) 22:26, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Seems to be a single purpose editor, but I'm not sure they are COI, otherwise they'd be taking their own pictures of Greg Cox. Thanks for your help. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:18, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

They posted I have exclusive rights to the photos here I know the photographer and artist im writing about personally at COM:VPC which seems to be admitting a connection to Cox. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:36, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Indeed. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:14, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Pointers, New Jersey

The article Pointers, New Jersey has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Named intersection, not a notable community: Ref 4 only says "The second commercial district

primarily encompasses land owned by Salem Hospital and around the Pointers

intersection." and Ref 3 says "King's Highway rejoins the route at the Pointers, 26.6 m. The latter name comes from the junction of three old roads pointing here toward Salem." Can't find any newpapers.com sources establishing notability.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Reywas92^Talk 03:09, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Pointers, New Jersey for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pointers, New Jersey is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pointers, New Jersey until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Reywas92^Talk 22:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism

This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.

Chesapeake77 (talk) 11:44, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

@Chesapeake77: I've just spent an hour cleaning up the mess you left at Waldorf, Maryland, now you're reverting it and tagging my talk page. Deleting an out-of-scope image gallery, with the edit summary, "per WP:IG", is not vandalism. User:Bbb23 left a message on your talk page: "If you persist in disrupting the project, you risk being blocked". You really need to take some time and familiarize yourself with Wikipedia. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:48, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

It's not out of scope. There are many pictures on Wikipedia articles about cities and their inhabitants, culture, etc...so these photos are particularly relevant.

Do photos of Native American people bother you? Are you singling me / the content out because of this?

Using the word "mess" towards me is indicative of your rudeness, already shown by your second revert-- where you ignored my note asking for a few more minutes so I could add citations.

Your very inconsiderate following revert caused an "Edit conflict" and erased all the citations that I had just carefully assembled and added in.

Running to get a friend (Bbb23) after you have been warned about vandalism does not impress me. It is you who are disruptively editing. I have not exceeded enough reverts to be "edit warring".

Chesapeake77 (talk) 12:03, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

You are now removing recent "unsourced edits" without instead adding a "Citation needed" mini-template inline, or alternately posting a "citations needed" banner.

You are just skipping ahead to wholesale deletion instead of being constructive.

You are also harming the quality of the article in the process.

Chesapeake77 (talk) 12:23, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

@Chesapeake77: Accusing editors of vandalism because of a content dispute is considered a personal attack. You have done so, not only in warnings, but in edit summaries. Such attacks are blockable. In addition, there is no requirement that an editor tag an unsourced statement instead of removing it. If you wish to add information to an article, you must support it with a reliable source. That is your burden, and if you don't, the material you added may be properly removed. This is not the first time you have been disruptive. Consider my comments yet another warning and probably a final one.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:15, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Please provide specific and exact proof that my vandalism posts were unfounded.

Chesapeake77 (talk) 16:21, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid it doesn't work that way. Using WP:VANDAL, you have to justify how Magnolia677's edits constitute vandalism. Bear in mind that Magnolia is an experienced editor (over 105K edits) who has never been blocked. Your comment is preposterous.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:28, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Do not vandalize or edit Chico, CA due to your lack of information or cited sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:200:4500:5240:25CE:87A9:9318:975D (talk) 13:14, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

He is back

Hi, that persistent disruptive editing person who is blocked under multiple different ip addresses is back and doing the same nonsense. 172.58.172.5. can you please check it out. Thank you, Doriden (talk) 16:51, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Help with Article

I was reading some articles on the upcoming governor election in Minnesota. The Scott Jensen (Minnesota politician) article seemed very sorrowful looking and I think could use some work especially in the lead. I am not experienced and wouldn’t know how to even start cleaning it. I usually read articles and don’t edit much myself. Could you clean up this article?Tda773 (talk) 16:51, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

@Tda773: Looks like a fine fellow, and he's a Republican. I'll have a look. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Helping sockpuppets

Why are you restoring puffery (e.g. cherry-picked poll crap about popularity, medical freedom advocate) and fringe claims about COVID added by new accounts on a page (Scott Jensen (Minnesota politician)) rife with sockpuppetry?[5] Snooganssnoogans (talk) 20:30, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

@Snooganssnoogans: Yes, but I'm not a sockpuppet. I made copyedits to sourced content. My edits were an improvement. If you don't like what's in the article, then remove it AND LEAVE AN EDIT SUMMARY, but don't revert me to fix a previous problem. I'm cautioning you friend, don't edit war with me. Do it the right way. Thanks for your understanding. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:34, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Please use your own words

It's ridiculous to post a template intended for new editors on an experienced editor such as Snooganssnoogans, as you did here. Please pay other editors the respect of using your own words, and don't recommend experienced editors to 'familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines' or to look up the Welcome page to learn about contributing constructively to the encyclopedia. Bishonen | tålk 20:43, 29 March 2022 (UTC).

For an essay on what Bishonen describes, see WP:DTTR EvergreenFir (talk) 20:50, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For your persistent diligence in always being there to help suggest improvements to my work. I swear that you and I will be friends one day. Thats one of my goals on the encyclopedia (to befriend Magnolia677) ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 17:21, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

British Columbia

Has there been a decision regarding the discussion on British Columbia [6] that was started on Feb. 21? Just noticing this happening elsewhere (Morro Bay, California, Carpinteria, California, Dominguez Channel), but British Columbia seemed the only place asking for comment. Yours, Phatblackmama (talk) 21:07, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

@Phatblackmama: Thanks for showing me those. As for the RfC at British Columbia, typically an editor will request that a non-involved editor close the discussion, and summarize the consensus. The last time I looked, the RfC seemed pretty even both ways, so it may not be worth anyone's time to close the discussion. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Census citation on Sunflower, Mississippi and others

Hi Magnolia677, Regarding your reverts. I was replacing this https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial-census.html with https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial-census/decade.html The latter is more precise since it gives tabs by year to obtain all the data back to 1790; the former is just a generic census page. Ideally we would link each year to the relevant pdf. Patapsco913 (talk) 20:29, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Citations

The added parts on the North Little Rock, Cabot, and Maumelle pages have citations relevant to the page and talk about those dates. Read the content please. Asims6801 (talk) 22:58, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

@Asims6801: What was the source supporting your edits? Magnolia677 (talk) 23:04, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

The Encyclopedia of Arkansas pages cited on the External Links part at the bottom of each page. You deleted two of them that had sufficient relevancy to the content. Asims6801 (talk) 23:19, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

You deleted the Dogtown entry and the town incorporation entry that is on the Encyclopedia of Arkansas. You also did that to the Maumelle and Cabot pages. Asims6801 (talk) 23:22, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

You also removed an external link citation about AML that is in the same format as the other ones. Asims6801 (talk) 23:24, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

@Asims6801: References cannot be inserted as external links. Please take a moment to read Help:Referencing for beginners. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:25, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Email

Could I have your email please? Or is it private? Just wanted to avoid writing on - wiki. Itcouldbepossible^Talk 10:58, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

@Itcouldbepossible: Thanks for writing. I don't use my email on here, but looking at your edit history, I think I know what it's about. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:10, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Well there you go. I know you are really intelligent, seeing you solve problems out here. You might already be knowing about what I am talking about. But still wanted to let you know something. If you don't want to share your email, you are ok with it, for I quite guess that you know what I want to talk or say about. Cheers! Itcouldbepossible^Talk 11:14, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

I would also want you to watchlist my user page if you don't mind adding 1 page extra to your watchlist. The reason behind me saying this is for you to understand. Itcouldbepossible^Talk 11:15, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

@Itcouldbepossible: I'll keep an eye on it. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:21, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

♥ Itcouldbepossible^Talk 11:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Carson City

FYI, the debate about should the official name of Carson City be included in the lead sentence has already been had, and already is on the talk page. If you read the discussion that was had on the talk page, the sentence, "Carson City, officially the Consolidated...." was added to be consistent with the examples of San Francisco and Rhode Island. Other examples would be Virginia and Washington, D.C.. Dave (talk) 02:26, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Longview, TX

I understand where some of your edits are coming from to make the page more concise and less cumbersome, however most of them are unnecessary and seem self-serving in that you would just rather not see the information or pictures provided. At the very least do a better job of explaining or justifying these removals since you are unwilling or unable to actually contribute anything of value to the the page. As an area government representative I know how many people look at this page before making decisions about visiting or moving here, and they deserve to see the whole picture, not just your point of view. PineyWoods1870 (talk) 21:59, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@PineyWoods1870: Thank you for writing. Please discuss your specific concerns on the article talk page. Also, a Wikipedia article is not the same as a Facebook page, or a city website. However, to allay your concerns, please realize that by cleaning up the article as I did, it is now better than ever! Most visitors to the area would be tempted to head to Shreveport, but one look at your new and improved high-caliber Wikipedia article and they'll be heading west for sure! Regarding your position as a government representative, I recall a discussion I had with a government rep from Texas at a recent meeting of the Mega Society, and gosh did we talk! Magnolia677 (talk) 22:50, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

City product exports

Hello, the exports images Alex Sterck added were actually quite useful. Can you explain your rationale to remove them? I can only understand the low-quality aspect - it's hard to read on the file page - but - these are SVGs, meaning they render to an infinite size. Essentially they are the highest-quality images possible. If you click to view the full image you can read every word. ɱ (talk) 23:40, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Ɱ: Thanks for writing. I randomly picked this one and even in the highest resolution nearly all the smaller labels and data are cut off. I've viewed it in two web browsers, and in Media Viewer, but nothing expands to show the missing data. This is how these are intended to work. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Fair enough, I see what you mean. Not sure what can be done about it. ɱ (talk) 12:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. BilledMammal (talk) 03:23, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

You just can't help yourself, can you

Wow, look at that: an EDIT WARRING warning issued to the great Magnolia677. Why am I not surprised? I betcha a nickel you are erasing the Wikipedia pages for both Shane Cook and Robert Silverman. Do you get off on being a jerk, or does it just come naturally to you? Good-bye. This is my last message to you because you are so beneath contempt as to warrant my attention no longer.There can be only one...TheKurgan (talk) 18:06, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

@TheKurgan: Your edits are abusive and harassing. Please stop. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:58, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Evansville, Indiana page. Picture removed 10:30, 2 May 2022‎ Magnolia677

I see that my photo of a Graham Brothers truck was removed from the Evansville, Indiana page. Perhaps there was a misunderstanding on your part. This truck is on display at a museum in Iowa, but the vehicle was built by Graham Brothers of Evansville. As I wrote on the Evansville page, Graham Brothers started building trucks in Evansville. That's why I believe my photo is relevant. BTW, I drove to the Truck Museum in Iowa specifically to take the photo which you removed. I took the photo myself so that there wouldn't be a copyright issue with it. It is discouraging to spend the time and effort to contribute to the Wikipedia project, only to have one's work deleted. I would hope that my photo could be added back to the Evansville page. Thank you. Realist1948 (talk) 15:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

@Realist1948: Thank you for writing. Your picture was decorative and out-of-scope, per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE. The photo was added to Evansville, Indiana, but the photo was taken at a museum in Walcott, Iowa, over 300 miles away. Not sure how this enhances reader's understanding of Evansville. Please have a look at the Evansville article; today I uploaded a photo of the truck plant. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:25, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for giving your reasoning for deleting the photo I took the trouble to contribute. Which is not to say that I agree with your actions. Can you explain why the photo of the Graham Brothers truck is "decorative" while the picture of the P-47 Thunderbolt is not "decorative"? Both the truck

and the airplane were made by Evansville companies. The fact that the photo of the truck was taken in Iowa has little relevance, IMHO -- the truck came from an Evansville company. It has some similarity to the vehicles being assembled in the picture of the factory that you added. By the way

the P-47 pictured on the Evansville pages has tail number 226671.

It is at the Imperial War Museum in Duxford, England. That is certainly

more than 300 miles from Evansville (if you're concerned about the

distance). Thanks. Realist1948 (talk) 01:57, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me that.

Made sure to place the note about Hispanics/Latinos in my race table at the top of the page in a few recent edits. And that's what i'm gonna do from now on...thankfully, i keep a template Notepad file on my computer (which explains why i was able to update so many towns and cities as fast as i used to). You may have also noticed that my racial tables have seen a couple of updates over time, and credit to Patapsco913 for the one that i use currently.

As for making the Hispanics/Latinos note a footnote...well, i didn't really grab it off of any particular website. I saw Patapsco doing that with some of his tables, and i decided to follow suit. So i don't really know if that would count as a source, but i want to get that figured out, as there's still plenty of places in Florida and Texas i do want to update the racial data of. CarolinaLuxray (talk) 17:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Added footnotes on more than a few recent edits, and it was actually much easier than i thought it'd be in regards to finding a link. Once again, the table explanation isn't worded the same, but i feel like the reference is pretty useful. I'll find another link that's easier to understand if need be, though. CarolinaLuxray (talk) 17:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Hts

You warriors really have a grasp on this! Don't worry, I don't see a point in "vandalizing" the page anymore. You are correct. You guys really use the term "vandalize" loosely don't you. Take satisfaction in your existence editing Wikipedia pages with no knowledge on the subject. I'm sure you have gone far in life? Maybe if you were of age you could get admitted to one of these schools, (but of course I don't want to make assumptions, it's against your rules!) Enjoy the upcoming weekend and maybe spend some time with family and friends? If possible, :) Flaminfarthippo (talk) 11:39, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Memphis update

Thanks for the update on the Memphis Tennessee Temple. While I knew the geographical aspect of the recent addition was OK, it didn't seem to be included from a NPOV, that was the "not relevant" part. Thanks for improving/including the information. ChristensenMJ (talk) 23:51, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

@ChristensenMJ: My apology. I should have just added in the address, rather than reverting, which unnecessarily added back the pov test. Thanks for writing. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:26, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of content and contributions to my talk page

Hello, hope you are well. Please stop deleting content without seeking to find references, particularly in regard to references already on the page. Also, please stop posting messages threatening to block me on my talk page, it is rather rude. Even if you didn't want to look for references, you could at least have put the citation needed tag on the page, which I would happily put a suitable reference in. Barney1995 (talk) 22:43, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

May/June 2022

Hi Magnolia677, I found that you removed my edits on Orland Park, Illinois. The edit description said that you were bringing back the edits that was created by DemocraticLuntz. Have any questions? Feel free to send me a message on my talk page. Bye. 2601:244:4080:430:1518:4FF4:ABB3:2ABF (talk) 23:48, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

St. George, Utah

Hi there - I have a hard time with your comment that St. George is a "long way" from the Mojave Desert. Generally, the Mojave is defined as "anywhere a Joshua tree grows," which includes the St. George area. Webb et. al in 2003 include St. George in the definition. The World Wildlife Fund defines the Mojave Desert ecoregion as extending well into the city limits. Can you articulate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MojaveNC (talk • contribs) 22:58, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@MojaveNC: Thanks for writing. The Mojave Desert's boundaries depend on what map you look at, but many do include St. George. Feel free to revert. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 08:14, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Paul Pelosi

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Thanks!

Thanks for reverting a mistake I made on Durant, Oklahoma! Dinoz1 (chat?) 22:42, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Chico, CA

You need to have justification and cite sources before you can edit. In addition, movies and films routinely are filmed in areas around cities in rural regions, do not remove that fact or vandalize articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:200:4500:5240:25CE:87A9:9318:975D (talk) 13:12, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

RE: Deletion of image gallery for Fulton, Texas

I am surprised that you removed the entire photo gallery. For an article about a city that used to be a center for butchering cattle and is a fishing port, at least the photos related to those industries seem very relevant to the article. Also, the public fishing pier is a main landmark, often with hundreds of people a day fishing from it. I think a gallery of photos, possibly a reduced set of them, is helpful in understanding this city. Irenically, Pete unseth (talk) 23:32, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

@Pete unseth: I'm not sure why you added such low quality photos: a night shot, several pictures of signs, a photo with a frame around it, a picture of a post office. The only one worth adding back is this one. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Though we may disagree, I'll not edit war.Pete unseth (talk) 00:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Washington is not a city in the present day

Hey, I know you like the word "Washington" and a lot of people hear it on the news all the time, but there is no City of Washington. Have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_Organic_Act_of_1871 , when the city charter was revoked, leaving only a District of Columbia.

Using "Washington" as a metonym for "The District" makes the page confusing, especially in segments that cover history and the transition from the City to the District.

The DC code does refer to a City of Washington, stating that it is the area within the bounds of the original city. I expect this is partly because they didn't want to rewrite the Code, and they want historic niceties in that area. For example, there's a law that specifies no above-ground wires anywhere in the City, but allows them elsewhere in the District. So using "Washington" to mean "The District" is in opposition to what DC itself specifies, and again, using the two names interchangeably creates confusion.

But maybe you still really think "Washington" and "The District" are 100% interchangeable. Then...why care when people use "The District"? If they're equivalent, why bother changing "The District" to what you seem to be defining as equivalent? Let what is arguably the more accurate term stet.

PS: I don't know where you are, but I live here in DC (And the City of Washington, where the power line to the house is buried), and I want to assure you that the great majority of people here in DC know the difference. In DC, "Washington" means the federal government, and "DC" means the 700,000 people who live here (I know you can find counterexamples; no need to cite them). Part of what bothers me about this topic is that Wikipedia insists that the people who make up the District are all wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by B k (talk • contribs) 18:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@B k: Please see [7]. Unless you can gain a consensus to change the name, it would be wise not to revert others. Thanks for your understanding. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations on finding somebody who uses the word "Washington". Notice that you're referring to a page that lists many entities, including "Census Designated Places (CDP)". Census Designated Places are a convenience for the Bureau (where I used to work, by the way), and are in no way law. B k (talk) 19:10, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Also, please note that the same applies to yourself: 'Unless you can gain a consensus to change the name, it would be wise not to revert others." Using "The District" is correct, both technically and in common street parlance. Please give a positive reason for why you reverted my edit. B k (talk) 19:11, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Finally, if you believe the charter of the City of Washington was not revoked, I invite you to edit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_Organic_Act_of_1871 to say so. Otherwise, you are asserting a position inconsistent with Wikipedia itself. B k (talk) 19:14, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

This is more humor than anything else, but please enjoy this article about what happened when DC stopped using "Washington" on its driver's licenses. https://wamu.org/story/17/04/18/district-confusion-washington-d-c-replace-district-columbia-new-drivers-licenses/

To give away the ending, they had to add "Washington" back because so many people had no idea what the District of Columbia was. If you follow the links, I think you'll find airport security agents who mistook it for Colombia and demanded passports, and other such mistakes. There's some humor to the real-life implications of people not knowing that DC is a place.

Why did they take off "Washington"? Because, according to the DC Mayor's office, "it’s the city’s official name. “We are just realigning ourselves with what is the historical name of the District,” he said, pointing out the “District of Columbia” is listed in the Home Rule Charter and is used by city agencies." It's another example of the constant conflict between the truth and what people think is true.

Back to the matter at hand, I've given you a host of content, and your only engagement so far was to find an unofficial source. I'll wait a reasonable period, and if you don't have a rebuttal to the Mayor of DC, the Organic Act page, or at least a reason why The District is unacceptable, I'll take this as resolved and go back to using the word "District" instead of the word "Washington". — Preceding unsigned comment added by B k (talk • contribs) 23:21, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Mentioning James Anderton in Barrie's history section

Hey, I have noticed your removal of the mentioning of James Anderton, owner of Anderton Brewery (and many smaller breweries). Seeing as he was not only a pioneer of the brewery industry in Barrie and the cities largest employer for decades (facts mentioned on numerous easily accessible sources- see 'Brewed in Canada: The Untold Story of Canada's 300-Year-Old Brewing History,' or articles on him found in Barrie Today, or even the plaque dedicated to him and his family found at Victoria Street and Lakeshore Drive in Barrie itself!!), I find this quite irregular. The fact that you mark him as "not notable" perhaps speaks to your unfamiliarity with this history. Unfortunately, as I am sure you are aware, Canadian history is sadly under-documented and lacks the robust system of record keeping as our friends to the south. James Anderton's death (his death is the main reason I even seek to add him to the article, though he is an important figure in his own right) is a crucial event to understanding the toppling of the largest brewery and employer in Barrie, making way for the Molson buyouts and forever transforming the working landscape of the city. Adding these fine details helps sketch a picture of a rapidly transforming city in such an interesting period- I hope you agree!

I have linked a particularly interesting article on his death which may help illuminate! https://www.barrietoday.com/columns/remember-this/the-mysterious-death-of-james-anderton-part-1-4-photos-1015628

Edwardmayfield (talk) 03:14, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

@Edwardmayfield: The link says, "James Anderton, a prominent local businessman who had for years operated a large family-owned brewery at the head of Kempenfelt Bay". Being a prominent businessman in a small city does not guarantee inclusion in an article. Please start a discussion on the article's talk page. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 04:01, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Nova Scotia

Hello! I undid your reverting of my edits of the Nova Scotia page. There were several edits I made, most of which were cited (I did not cite some of the Peace and Friendship Treaty history as I just took it from the linked Wiki pages themselves, and I was being lazy). As such, I humbly ask that you make your edits accordingly. For example, the inclusion of Mi'kmawi'simk as the First Language of Nova Scotia should either remain as it or with a note that it goes from a bill to a law come royal assent on Treaty Day this year (1 Oct). Another is the necessity of maintaining the inclusion of Mi'kmaw history on equal terms with French and British histories in the introduction. Anything short of that is writing the Mi'kmaq and their country† out of history. If the Treaty of Paris (1763) is named, the Peace and Friendship Treaties (1725–1779) ought to be as well. So, again, please please make edits where necessary rather than blanket reverting all the work done.

(Mid-script note †: The use of the term "country" is both apparent on the Mi'kma'ki page and on the country page, and it is akin to Basque Country or Catalan Countries, just for information)

I freely admit I was lazy with some, and perhaps (part of) the Mi'kmaw creation history ought be better versed. For this, I apologize. For my case, I will say that a) much of the unsourced materials can be found elsewhere on Wikipedia, and, especially in the intro, I kept the sourcing to the same levels of citations for Mi'kmaw history as done with Acadian history; and b) that I believe at the very least mentioning Mi'kmaw law (like Common law or Civil code) warrants a space on this page, and an important way to frame it is to introduce the roots on it in Kluskap's learnings and teachings on interbeing. Otherwise, please correct and edit where necessary, but please be mindful of the tendency for Indigenous histories, contributions, and roles to be written out of North American histories (and especially pages on Wikipedia). Cheers! Danachos (talk) 06:56, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

I completely agree- it is crucial to ensure Mi'kmaw history is being properly represented. I find this blanket reverting troublesome as well. Just ensure your sources are properly cited and neatly written. Edwardmayfield (talk) 16:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Moxy has just reverted the Wabanaki edits again... unfortunately Danachos (talk) 01:45, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Paul Pelosi

You need to sign a comment you left at Talk:Paul Pelosi. Happy editing! Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 00:25, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

@Iamreallygoodatcheckers: I was so full of steam trying to get my edit written, I forgot to sign it. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 00:29, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

New section

all of the information I get when I put government in County's is from the website that's in the info box — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8001:2902:64F4:A9D0:6216:97D2:6C24 (talk) 04:22, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

SERIOUSLY GO AWAY FROM MY ARTICLES!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoeart23 (talk • contribs) 11:37, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Margaret Kerry

Figured I'd ask if I can change Margaret Kerry's birthplace. She said in an interview that she was actually born in Springfield, Illinois, not Los Angeles, California (here's my source: https://www.ww2online.org/view/margaret-kerry#prewar-life)

EncyloThesaurus (talk) 02:13, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

@EncyloThesaurus: Thanks for sharing that. I removed some unsourced test, and updated her birthplace. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 07:49, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Happy July 4th!

Colman2000 (talk) is wishing you a Happy 4th of July! On this day, we recognize our independence from Great Britain with the adoption of the Declaration of Independence, which ultimately paved the way to our freedom. Celebrate this day in many different ways, such as hosting a barbecue, watching baseball games, or even attending a fireworks show! Happy Independence Day, fellow American!  
 

Share this message by adding {{subst:Independence Day}} to a fellow American's talk page.

Colman2000 (talk) 05:05, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Please stop leaving messages on talk page

Please engage on the article talk pages and refrain from leaving messages on my talk page. Ushistorygeek (talk) 22:23, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

@Ushistorygeek: All I've done is added warnings in the hope you will stop adding unsourced content and edit warring. These cautions are a friendly way of telling editors they are being disruptive. Most smart editors pay attention to them. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:27, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

The content I added was sourced. It is telling that your edit removed the modifiers while leaving the content you claimed was unsourced. Ushistorygeek (talk) 23:12, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!

The access gates table on Ballona Creek Bike Path looks so cool. TY so much. jengod (talk) 21:24, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

@Jengod: You put a lot of work into that article. These type of "list associated photos" always look neater in a table, see List of National Historic Landmarks in California. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:29, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

I’m trying to get the bike path articles in passable condition before the 2028 Olympics come to LA. I just imagine German tourists being completely confounded by our non-system LOL jengod (talk) 21:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

A1A Reference in Popular Culture

You keep removing my popular culture reference that mentions A1A in its song. Not sure why you are removing it as I cited it and it’s is factual information. Can’t think of a reason why it would have to be removed besides you implying you’re personally not happy with it being there as it is a fact. I’m going to add it again with citation as it is a factual reference of song that actually mentions A1A. Don’t remove it again. 2600:1700:4110:C980:40:5C25:208C:19A3 (talk) 19:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

The song you added isn't about A1A; it's a trivial mention about A1A in a non-notable song. Please take a moment to read WP:IPC. You can keep adding it, but as sure as the sun rises, it will be deleted within hours by one editor or another. I suggest your start a discussion on the article talk page. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:52, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Caswell County Works Cited

Hello, you reverted an edit about Caswell County High School in addition to contextual information in the other texts that were not necessarily in any abstract (where one may of existed, for in the case of a book, they do not). I cannot log into my account. Yet each text served an important purpose to put together the history of the county. Again, you'd have to read the whole text to find what I found. I actually put the time in. It took countless hours. The point of a works cited section is to put that information there so the reader can quickly get to it and see the texts up-close. I don't wish to debate it. But I would at least put back the other Walker article you removed. Thanks. 38.140.49.92 (talk) 22:32, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

• Also you removed a historical text exactly about Caswell County by the author Sartin, Ruby Pearl. When I log into my account, I will put it back unless you can get to it first. Appreciate it, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.140.49.92 (talk) 22:44, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

There is no article for Caswell County High School. The edit I made to Caswell County, North Carolina was to remove random book links added to a "works cited" section. I looked at some of the links and most didn't even mention Caswell County. Moreover, references should be add as inline citations, and should reference specific sections in the text. You may wish to add relevant external links to a "further reading" section. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:50, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Maps

Regarding the map additions that you recently reverted: The map appears "incomplete" because the areas that are not depicted are not defined as neighbourhoods. That's how the maps are shown on the official websites: Ajax and Pickering. I'll try adding the town/city border to make it look "complete". utcursch | talk 23:05, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

@Utcursch: Ajax, Ontario makes no mention of "neighbourhoods" in the article. So adding a map showing something not mentioned anywhere in the article makes that image purely decorative, per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:12, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

The section "Communities of Ajax" just lists what the town officially calls "neighbourhoods" (including in the source cited for the section). utcursch | talk 23:14, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

@Utcursch: Can you tweak the wording in the article? My concern is images that don't correspond to the article text. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:20, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Report moved to ANI

Hi Magnolia677, I have moved your report to WP:ANI to allow others to discuss the issue with the user – or at least to allow them to attempt to do so before another indefinite block for a lack of communication is implemented. That one would likely be permanent. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 11:11, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

@ToBeFree: Thanks for that. I'll add a bit more detail there. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 11:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Ah perfect, thank you ~ ToBeFree (talk) 11:18, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Redmond Reporter

None of the newspapers listed in this article have citations or references, so I don't see what's the problem here. The Redmond Reporter has been in-print for 21 years and is also listed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Press#Washington. Please put it back in. Adamn1971 (talk) 00:38, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

@Adamn1971: Please take a moment to read WP:V. If you are able to source some of the other content it would certainly improve the article. Thank you for writing. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:19, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Can You Say "Some California County Pages Are Already Perfect!"?

I want someone to say the quote I made! Romanpierson421 (talk) 20:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Failure to follow WP:BRD on Vinton, Iowa

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Vinton, Iowa, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines, including WP:BRD. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Please seek a consensus. Secarctangent (talk) 02:07, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia

Stop reverting my edits idc about Wikipedia so idc if u block me but stop reverting my edits what u think ur doing is wrong it’s harassment and ur removing information that is important. For example the superintendent, if something’s unsourced that’s not a reason to revert it, that’s a reason for you to go source it ur self stop being lazy RubyLu05 (talk) 17:01, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@RubyLu05 No, the WP:BURDEN is on you to provide sources. EvergreenFir (talk) 17:06, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Idc get off the talk page RubyLu05 (talk) 17:09, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@RubyLu05 No, you cannot tell others to "get off" another user's talk page. Either provide sources for your edits or you will be blocked. EvergreenFir (talk) 17:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

bro yall sound goofy get a mf life RubyLu05 (talk) 17:15, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Reverted your edits, just read what I have to say before you get angry.

Hi, I can see that you reverted my edits from the previous night as you deemed them not accurate due to a lack of inline citations. Well, I followed up on it this morning and I have now "half" reverted your edits. I'll let the "50th year" thing slide, as you were probably right about that, but the rest of my edits were completely accurate, and were supported by a media packet published by the organization that runs the Street Fair. Not really sure how that could be seen as inaccurate, but from my experience, it isn't. Thanks for your help editing the article, and all your effort. I can see other people have had many other similar issues so I imagine you might think the last sentence comes from a place of passive-aggression, I can assure you it does not. Enjoy the rest of your day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharlieM1021 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

No personal attacks

Hello Magnolia677. I see here that you have a habit of removing relevant, neutrally-phrased, reliably-sourced material from pages, rarely give understandable edit summaries, and many users have asked you to stop. Certainly at no time is it acceptable to refuse to discuss your edits and engage in personal attacks as you did here. Invasive Spices (talk) 10 August 2022 (UTC)

• You have made no effort to respond on talk pages. You have instead responded with WP:FOLLOWING and WP:EDITWARRING in this edit. Stop your disruptive editing immediately. If you continue you may be blocked. Invasive Spices (talk) 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Ok

Ok. Understood. Sorry. MurrayGreshler (talk) 00:58, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

"Biased" source at Coquitlam

It is widely acknowledged that a great deal of Canada, particularly in the west, operates on unceded First Nations territory. It's fine to object to the Kwikwetlem Nation source as being primary, but it's downright offensive to call it "biased" just because it's a website belonging to a First Nation. I have restored the content and the source, and added a backing citation to the Coquitlam Heritage group (which you could easily have found yourself instead of outright removing the content). ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:03, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

"Improvements"

They're getting autoconfirmed--so now we just wait on the spam article. Drmies (talk) 22:09, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Ryerson CFD

Hello, Magnolia677,

I thought I'd let you know that Horatio Bumblebee was blocked as a sockpuppet. I don't know how this will affect the CFD discussion. He also neglected to post a CFD discussion tag on most of the categories being proposed to be renamed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:06, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

@Liz: Thanks for letting me know. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 22:26, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Yanceyville Parks and Recreation edits

First, thank you for taking an interest in the page. I noticed you have over 100,000 edits, which is amazing. Obviously you have been an editor for many years. I have as well, though have just 3,000 plus edits. Anyway, the revert you just did neglected to see the sources I painstakingly put there above referencing what Yanceyville has to offer. When we say Yanceyville, it should include areas that have a Yanceyville address. I feel it would be ok to say there what is available in Yanceyville and the immediate area (considered Yanceyville) as an intro than just Yanceyville, so this battle of semantics need not be. The fact is human beings do recreation in their areas where they live and have access to the immediate area that is still considered essentially what they call home. In Yanceyville's case, it all has been assigned a Yanceyville address by USPS. I put the sources there and please read them carefully, thanks.

Peabodyb (talk) 01:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

@Peabodyb: Thank you for writing. ZIP code boundaries are established based on what is most efficient for mail delivery, with little concern for municipal boundaries. The city listed on a mailing address is often well outside the city's borders. For example, this lodge has an Ely, Minnesota mailing address, but is located in a wooded area 13.5 miles outside the city. School boards frequently do the same thing, and include communities well outside the school board city. A detailed explanation can be found here. As for adding Farmer Lake, it's a half-mile outside Yanceyville, but the source clearly states that although it is "located in Caswell County", it was none-the-less built for the people of nearby Yanceyville, so sure, add it with an explanation, as this will definitely be of benefit to readers. As for the golf club and Boy Scout camp, these were quite a way out of town (but may have a Yanceyville mailing address). Feel free to open a discussion on the talk page for more input. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. That's absurd that the post office does that because it is very confusing. But no surprises since it is USPS after all. Anyway, I went ahead and added that. I thank you for your input on how to present the information, which I incorporated. Please feel free to review it if you wish to add more input. Cheers :) Peabodyb (talk) 14:24, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	I am a native English speaker, I'm finishing my PhD, I think I'm smart. I am not. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for pointing out my mistake with State vs state. I want to recognize your professionalism and kindness in the face of my ~2000 edits worth of errors. Wikipedia is better because of people like you and again, thank you. Dr vulpes (💬 • 📝) 07:07, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

@Dr vulpes: Thank you so much! Magnolia677 (talk) 08:26, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

WP:CALC

All four of those edits were WP math not synth.B137 (talk) 20:41, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

The Black Arrow (film)

I've noticed the plot to this film is only one sentence. May I be allowed to add the plot summary?

EncyloThesaurus (talk) 17:21, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Conduct with newcomers

I am contacting you about a revert you did to changes done by user Morganraider72 on Chisholm, Minnesota. Two of their edits to the page were fine and helped the page. However it appears they made an unattended third change. They added a comma to the word Native American (Na,tive American). While reverting is well within guidelines it appears to be heavy-handed and the typo could have just been removed instead of all the work being reverted (see list item #3). Additionally your response on the editor's talk page could have been handled more neutrally and less threatening. How it is currently written might be seen as browbeating newbies. (see list items #1 and #2)

Please keep in mind three principles of Wikipedia

1. Wikipedia:Assume good faith: "It is important to be patient with newcomers, who will be unfamiliar with Wikipedia's culture and rules, but may nonetheless turn out to be valuable contributors." WP:GOODFAITH
2. Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers: "If you feel that you must say something to a newcomer about a mistake, please do so in a constructive and respectful manner. Begin by introducing yourself with a greeting on the user's talk page to let them know that they are welcomed here, and present your corrections calmly and as a peer. If possible, point out something they've done correctly or especially well."WP:NOBITING
3. Wikipedia's Editing Policy: "Improve pages wherever you can, and do not worry about leaving them imperfect. Preserve the value that others add, even if they "did it wrong" (try to fix it rather than delete it)." WP:EDITING

I have been leading a series of Wikipedia Edit-a-tions on Local History. The user in question was someone that was signed up for the Northland Minnesota History Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon. I am trying to encourage more people from rural areas and small towns in Minnesota to contribute to Wikipedia. As it stands Wikipedia articles are heavily focused on urban topics and Wikipedia editors are mainly from larger cities or communities that have large universities. It is important that we do better in how give feedback to each other in particular those new to Wikipedia. Myotus (talk) 22:12, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

@Myotus: Let me see if understand...you are "trying to encourage more people from rural areas and small towns in Minnesota to contribute to Wikipedia". Could you please share the demographic data you are working from, in particular, the current home city of most editors to Minnesota articles? Could you also please also show me the data or consensus suggesting that editors from small towns in a state should be encouraged to edit local articles? My experience has been that local editors are most likely to add puffery and original research, a problem addressed at WP:USCITIES#Arts and culture: "It is arguably the most tempting section for original research and unsourced material". I created an articles about Love, Arizona, but in all honestly, I've never even set foot in Arizona (I don't have a lot of love either). Would the article have improved if I lived in a trailer in some small town in Arizona? Thank you for writing. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:09, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Back to the issue I contacted you about, please be more constructive and respectful when working with newcomers and if you see a typo (or other correctable issues) help out and correct them, do not just revert all the changes made. Myotus (talk) 03:16, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Pie charts

I am new to wikipedia and I am still learning, this is why I really appreciate your overview of the pages I have edited. Likewise, I honestly tried to be informative and subjective, and present data, in, what I believed, to be a more visual and more appealing form, which was a lot of work and research from my part. However, I do recognise the mistakes and faults I have made, and I am truly sorry for not meeting the standards. As someone who would like to contribute to Wikipedia, I would prefer to add the informations back to those pages in some form, since, on most of them, there is no data regarding, for instance, the languages spoken at home in the Census Designated Places located in various Native American Reservations. I would be honoured if you could suggest a way to re-add the statistics regarding the statistics about the linguistic compostition of those places and point out what mistakes should I avoid in future, so that I will be able to enrich this great Encyclopedia. Thank you very much for your edits, I am truly thankful for your help and assistance. Azurewit25 (talk) 12:44, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Azurewit25: Thank you for writing. I left some advice already on your talk page. Just start slow, and ask around first to see if what you plan on doing is actually needed. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:09, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Magnolia, Feel free to revert me if you think I've gone a bit too far with my undoing of this user's edits ... I just have very little time for single-purpose accounts. I remember IP users years ago who used to add unneeded pie charts but I think this user is completely unrelated to those. Graham87 18:09, 26 August 2022 (UTC)