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Original research

I have reverted your addition to the Dimitri Kitsikis article, because it appears to constitute original research. I have noted below the specific problems:

Kitsikis treats fascism in a way similar to the way the italian historian Carlo Ginzburg has treated cases of witch-hunt, agrarian materialism, and healing beliefs of the lower classes brought to evidence in the courts of the Sacred Inquisition.Says who? The cited source (The Cheese and the Worms) does not appear to mention Kitsikis' name at all. Ginzburg found that agrarian communities held for centuries, if not for millenia, very deep-rooted beliefs and practices, hidden under everyday life. Those beliefs and practices were quite different from the ones that were held officialy by the upper classes. They were practically ignored, until the conflict between Reformation and Counter-Reformation brought them to the surface ^[1].

Pretty much in the same way, the core of fascism, Kitsikis argues, is religious.Source? One can presume it is the Third Ideology and Orthodoxy cited below, I suppose. It is the "religion of the heart" as opposed to the "religion of the dress" of the official church, but also to "atheism", that is, the intellectual pride of the philosophers or the "libertins" or hedonists.This sentence doesn't really even make sense. I suspect there is a grammar error that is preventing my proper understanding of it. Pretty much as typography (huh?) had helped the ancient beliefs Ginzburg talks about to escalade to the courts, it was Jean-Jacques Rousseau, two and a half centuries later, (two and a half centures later than what?) who found a way not only to express this "religion of the heart" in a literary form, but also to formulate a social ideal capable of containing this kind of religion.

Rousseau's "religion of the heart" or "natural religion" would prove itself of enormous significance, as an historical driving factor - not only as a important constituant of the French Revolution, but also of the Counter-Revolution, since an instinctive religion cannot be contained easily in a specific camp. Notably, Maximilien de Robespierre would come to think of himself as the Messiah of this ancient religion of the heart. He would also be the first to be caught up between the new notions of "Left" and "Right", pretty much the same way the villagers Carlo Ginzburg wrote about had been caught up between the dogmatic notions of "Catholicism" and "Lutheranism". This entire paragraph is unsourced, and seems irrelevant to the point at hand.

Kitsikis's theory has three important consequences. Who has determined these three important consequences? You? Kitsikis himself? Neither is a valid answer (unless you have published a peer-reviewed work on the matter. First, that a fascist social movement sees itself always as a defensive one, not an offensive one, and always claims to be firmed on very essential communial values it tries to protect: the respect of women, of the parents, of the old. Second, that it shares much in common with communism, the main difference between them being that fascism focuses more on moral values, while communism focuses more on human needs. Third, that it has a peculiar but true tie to orthodoxy, the latter being much more instinctive, communial and non-intellectual than the two other main christian denominations, i.e., catholicism and protestantism.^[2]

Please do not reintroduce this material without discussing the matter first, either here or on Talk:Dimitri Kitsikis. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:02, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ The Cheese and the Worms: The Cosmos of a Sixteenth Century Miller. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press. 1980. ISBN 0-8018-4387-1. (First published in Italian as Il formaggio e i vermi, 1976)
^ Ἡ τρίτη ἰδεολογία καὶ ἡ Ὀρθοδοξία [The Third Ideology and Orthodoxy] - Athens, Ακρίτας, 1990. (2nd edition, Hestia, 1998).

[1] The Cheese and the Worms: The Cosmos of a Sixteenth Century Miller. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press. 1980. ISBN 0-8018-4387-1. (First published in Italian as Il formaggio e i vermi, 1976)

[2] Ἡ τρίτη ἰδεολογία καὶ ἡ Ὀρθοδοξία [The Third Ideology and Orthodoxy] - Athens, Ακρίτας, 1990. (2nd edition, Hestia, 1998).

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