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Nation Alliance and IVY Party

Hey there, as I believe communication is key and in WP:GOODFAITH, I am dropping you a message. Just to let you know,in clear steps the reason and policy backing behind it: 1) Nation Alliance, ideology and political position. I added both of them in a few months ago, well that was a mistake. The composition itself is a big tent alliance looking at the member parties position. Additionally centre-left to centre-right are unsourced. The ideological lines of Lib con, soc dem and Lib kem are also unsourced. In truth, the ideological lines is more complex than that. Another reason is per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, factions and reductant info should be avoided and cut down. 2) Nation Alliance composition, there is a common policy for the composition menbers position and ideology to mirror the article. Sources are to be found if the reader wants to further see the party, this has been the way for a long time now to avoid different ideologies and positions about the same party as well as the sources taking up unneccessary space per WP:WHENNOTCITE. 3) Nation alliance comment, your comment is a misconception of how WP:CON works. If there is no WP:CON established, changes are possible. And for the second part, sourced information can be challenged and removed if it is not backed up by a WP:RS, sources include from WP:OR (not allowed) to WP:RS. None of those sources are considered WP:RS and a few of them are WP:OR. Academic work and WP:RSP are considered WP:RS. 4) Ivy Party ideology, Social justice is not an ideology but an economic policy, even the social justice page says that. Social justice is also only self declared and per WP:NOT, it is not allowed. 5) Ivy Party ideology, the ideological name of being in favour of a Welfare state is wellfarism. Statism has a completely different meaning. 6) Both civic nationalism and eco nationalism are sub categories of nationalism. Both of them also only have WP:OR content with no WP:RS verifying that. 7) Parliamentarism is unsourced and an IP editor added that, again but if its true not an ideology but in favour of a government system. 8) Position debate is fair as there are more known sources claiming different positions. However, per MOS:INFOBOX we should aim for consistency, and a guideline is having a maximum of two close positions, ideally one per the purpose. Several articles such as Alternative for Germany, United Russia, Liberal Democratic Party (Japan) use noteboxes to display another position/ideology to avoid this dilema. For centre-right we have many WP:RS backing it up, DW and The Times, Aljazzera, Euronews, Ahval. So a suggestion could be, using centre-right as its sole position with backing from WP:RS, with a note in the infobox saying the party is described as centre and right-wing too, it would also make sense as the middle of that is centre-right. Positive changes are encouraged by the site, its important to be WP:BOLD. Thank you and I wish you a great day. BastianMAT (talk) 01:04, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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