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...for your support and kind comment at my RFA. Looking at your recent contributions, I also have to ask whether you ever sleep? Keep up the good work (but do get some sleep too :)--Kubigula (talk) 03:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you very much for supporting my RfA, which closed successfully yesterday... W00t! I hope to be a great admin (and editor) and I'm sure you can tell that my use of a large, boldfaced, capital "T" and a big checkmark image in this generic "thank you" template that I swiped from some other user's Talk Page that I totally mean business! If you need anything in the future or if you see that I've done something incorrectly, please come to my Talk Page and let me know. So now I've got a bunch of reading to do.... see you around! - eo 13:44, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Cool!!! That is a really cool page, you are right. I also admire the users opinion of signatures and such. They always come second to building wikipedia. Have a great day. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 19:18, 22 June 2007 (UTC) RfA Requests for adminship and bureaucratship update No current discussions. Recent RfAs, recent RfBs: (successful, unsuccessful) Looks like you're ready to go, everything seems in order - Good luck! Ryan Postlethwaite 23:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Looks like Nishkid also approves by the support, so get it accepted, then transclude at will! Ryan Postlethwaite 23:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Your RFA Good luck with your RFA - as I already stated there, I thought you already were an administrator. --Ozgod 02:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Optional question I've left an important optional question on your RfA. Waltontalk 17:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC) William Cooley That's VERY flattering. Thanks for you support!--Legionarius 16:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC) BTW, what do you consider it would be necessary to bring this article to GA, please?Legionarius 19:32, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Your article is a really great first effort. GA is a big deal and FA is even a bigger deal and more or less the end goal of an article. To move it past GA and FA, it is likely that you will need to use information from the one to three top sources on William Cooley (which probably means a trip to the library to grab a book or two). There are some basic things missing from your article. I would suggest running through the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article to ensure you have the remaining few things that usually are part of a B biography article and as a good way to teach yourself how to develop a Wikipedia biography article. I would also reformat your footnotes to be more consistent with one at Wikipedia:Footnotes. There are many styles. I like to use Last, First. (date) [[Source]] ''[URL|URL title.]'' Section; Page. (Obtained date). Part of the GA and FA process may involve reducing and rearranging the article. Thus, at the B level, you want to include as much as you believe reasonable in the article so that it may be arranged and reduced. It is much easier to remove material from an article then to conceive of adding it in the first place. At the B level, I also would suggest putting a footnote after each sentence (except for the lead paragraph) so that others know where the information came from. Once you do all this, I would suggest revising the article to meet Wikipedia:What is a good article?. Once you think you have a GA article, you may want to compare it with a few U.S. pioneer articles at Wikipedia:Featured articles and incorporate what you learn from the style of those articles into your own. You then may want to list it for Peer review. On completing peer review, I then would suggest seeking GA status and ultimately FA status. -- Jreferee (Talk) 22:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC) Actually, it has been submitted for a peer review, but WikiProject Florida is not currently among the more active groups, so it may be a while before any response. I thought about submitting it to WikiProject Biography, but their guidelines state that anything below potential FA status is a waste of their time, and it's not quite there yet... Horologium t-c 22:20, 25 June 2007 (UTC) Congrats on your other GA article. You two make a great team. As for WikiProject Biography, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Peer review states, "However, use of a peer review for articles assessed below the Biography WikiProject's B-Class may not be a good use of reviewers' time." Where does it say something about potential FA status? -- Jreferee (Talk) 22:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC) Oops. I somehow confused B and FA. I win the Delta-Sierra award. (hangs head) I feel a little silly now. I will wait a few days, and if nobody at WP Florida steps up, I'll head on over to WP Biographies instead. Horologium t-c 22:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC) You may have done this, but are there any free use images here? -- Jreferee (Talk) 23:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC) I could not find any images of William Cooley ANYWHERE. I sent a couple messages to Tampa organizations to see if something shows up. Regarding the article, the sourcing is a bit of a problem. I just checked a main offline primary source and the coverage is minimal. History books usually keep their coverage to the Indian attack story. And the other books/expert articles about him are or online already or in locked files - nothing that has not been covered before, though. The primary sources investigation even brought data that hasn't been touched before.Legionarius 23:15, 25 June 2007 (UTC) (outdent)I doubt that there are any pictures of Cooley. He died in 1863, in what was essentially a backwater, after spending years as a pioneer. While cameras did exist, they were unusual and fragile,and while Cooley was locally important, he wasn't important enough to have a photo taken. Remember that film was not invented until 1883; before that time glass plates were used to make photographs. Horologium t-c 23:44, 25 June 2007 (UTC) Image:Metaborg1.JPG listed for deletion An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Metaborg1.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Spriteless 20:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC) That's what I get for not reading the template before subst-ing it. Well, you participated on the debate on the talk page for the article it is in, so you may be interested. Straight River DYK Yeah, that was fast! I'm guessing it was already in the queue when I moved the nom to June 24; I managed to make a wording change to the "next update" page with about ten minutes to spare. Anyway, thanks very much for the compliment and the nomination. --Malepheasant 04:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for June 25th, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 26 25 June 2007 About the Signpost Board election series: An interview with the candidates RfA receives attention, open proxies policy reviewed WikiWorld comic: "Thagomizer" News and notes: Logo error, Norwegian chapter, milestones Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 07:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC) Stellar magnetic field Hi RJHall. I nominated Stellar magnetic field to appear on the Main Page under the Did you know... section. The nomination hook appears here. There is a five day from creation window for DYK nominations, so I wanted to make sure it was in the queue. Please revise the nomination hook as you see fit as it may not be entirely correct. Great job on the article. -- Jreferee (Talk) 05:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC) Hi Jreferee, The wording on that hook is incorrect, so please do not use it. The stellar magnetic field is what causes plasma to be ejected at the surface via stellar flares. It does not eject "magnetic fields" as such. I'm sorry if the article created confusion and I'll try to reword it. Thank you. — RJH (talk) 14:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC) I figured that my understanding of the topic was off. I still would like to see you get the recognition for the hard work you put into the article. After 19:13, 26 June 2007, the Stellar magnetic field article will be five days old and outside of the DYK 5 day window. If you have time, please revise the wording of the DYK hook. Thanks. -- Jreferee (Talk) 14:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC) I added some modified text. If there's room the blurb could also mention that the stellar magnetic fields also cause stellar flares, which produce space weather. Thanks. — RJH (talk) 14:57, 26 June 2007 (UTC) HMS Ledbury (1940) Thanks for your interest in this article, I'm a novice in wikipedia so it's unusual to see an article of mine actually being noticed!! Thanks again!! Reuv 17:19, 26 June 2007 (UTC) 2 DYKs Did you know? was updated. On 26 June, 2007, facts from the articles Stellar magnetic field, and HMS Ledbury (1940), which you recently nominated, were featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. --howcheng {chat} 18:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC) Thank you, from ColWilliam Thank you very much for the DYK nomination for William Stacy. As you probably know, I'm a newbie to Wikipedia, so I'm still getting my feet wet. I really appreciate your kind words about the article. Best Regards, ColWilliam 00:39, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Dallas streets I read the comments on the deletion back in March for various Dallas streets. There was a comment made that gave me an idea — if references could be found, what about a single article on various notable streets of Dallas? Then the dead links could be turned into redirects. For example, Lover's Lane in Dallas is not only a shopping area, but the boundary for several neighborhoods, going back at least to the 1930s. I can agree there's not enough to make its own article, but it might save some trouble if there were one article to which all such items directed. Lawikitejana 03:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC) A single article on various notable streets of Dallas may work if you took the information from the various books that address the streets of Dallas. See this search, for example. -- Jreferee (Talk) 14:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Indian Independence League Thanks for the encouragement, I have now nominated this article.Rueben lys 14:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Re: Armenia and EU So, should I nominate it now or wait? -- Aivazovsky 15:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC) How about this?: Did you know...that opinion polls in Armenia suggest that 64% of its population favors eventual Armenian membership in the European Union? -- Aivazovsky 16:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC) How will I know if this article has been approved? Shall you or I bring it up on the discussion page? -- Aivazovsky 17:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Thanks for the huge vote of confidence But in truth, I don't know whether the two articles Legal disputes over the Harry Potter series and Religious controversy over the Harry Potter series technically qualify as "new". They've actually been around for quite a while, just as different parts of the same article. All I did was split them into two because as one they were becoming unwieldy. Still if you think they're still elegible, I'd be glad to nominate them. Cheers. Serendipodous 15:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Did you know Hi, Thanks for letting me know about the Did you know section... I hadn't realized that new articles can be "advertised" this way. I will try and add something from Early Pandyan Society soon. Suggestions welcome. thanks. Lotlil 17:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC) History of Williamsport Thanks for noticing the History of Williamsport. If it makes DYK it will be my 28th contribution to make DYK. Thanks again. Dincher 20:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC) And thanks for the DYK medal! Dincher 21:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Influence and activism of J. K. Rowling Thanks for the tip about Did you know! I didn't know I could submit there. :) Libertycookies 22:11, 27 June 2007 (UTC) DYK Notifying new article creators that they might want to submit to DYK is a good idea, but may I suggest adding "if you haven't already done so" somewhere in the template? —Celithemis 22:38, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Thank you Thank you for your support and comments at my RfA Hi Jreferee, It still amazes me that otherwise "anonymous" editors take the time to place !votes and comments on RfAs. Whilst I would have normally thanked you at the time of you leaving your message, the importance of my not appearing to be canvassing prevented me from so doing. Now that everything has progressed successfully I can finally thank you. I intend to uphold a style of good adminship and will welcome your further comments at any time in the future, even if they are in the form of admonishment. I will be happy to help as an admin wherever and whenever I can --VS talk 23:38, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Lynn Visson Hello Jreferee. Thank you for reading the article, and for your commendation. As suggested, I posted the article on the Did you know? suggestions. Regards. Dragonbite 00:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC) DIY Hello Jreferee: Thanks for the DIY nomination. It's factually correct. Bms4880 01:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC) Flora Eldershaw DYK Hi, thanks for the suggestion. I'm new here so am not really across all the processes. I had a quick read of the DYK page but it is long and complicated. Do you think there is something worth noting re Eldershaw for the DYK page?? I mean she was the first woman president of the FAW but that's perhaps of local aussie literature interest only. She was part of a successful literary collaboration that lasted a long time - that's a little rare I believe. Anyhow any help suggestions you care to give would be greatly appreciated. Sterry2607 07:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC) Mitigation of peak oil Hi Gralo. I nominated Mitigation of peak oil to appear on the Main Page under the Did you know... section. The nomination hook appears here. There is a five day from creation window for DYK nominations, so I wanted to make sure it was in the queue. Please feel free to revise the nomination hook as you see fit. Great job on the article. -- Jreferee (Talk) 04:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC) Hi Jreferee. Thanks for your comments - but unfortunately I picked up your message beyond the deadline... Gralo 10:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC) DYK Noms Did you know? was updated. On 28 June, 2007, facts from the articles William Stacy, and William Cooley, which you recently nominated, were featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. --Yomanganitalk 12:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC) Did you know? was updated. On June 29, 2007, a fact from the article Lynda Benglis, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 09:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC) Indian Independence League Hi, thanks so much for the work you did to the IIL article, it improved, broadened and expanded to a very meaningful start for an article. But are you sure about the "started by Bose and Nehru" bit (I haven't read the reference)? because the book I used as my primary source does not mention anything about it having been found by either, but instead says stuff about it's begining in Malaya from local Indian association, after the Japanese occupation.Rueben lys 13:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC) Hi Rueben. I added a URL link to the reference. Hope it helps. -- Jreferee (Talk) 14:22, 28 June 2007 (UTC) Politics and influence of J. K. Rowling Hi Jreferee, Can you help with a content dispute. The article that you liked, Influence and activism of J. K. Rowling was summarily deleted by an admin who claims that it is OR and is unwilling to allow others to view the content. As I'm sure you could tell, everything was cited from recognized sources or Rowling herself. I'm concerned that the deletion is politically motivated. Any suggestions? Note that he declared it a POV fork and only redirected it, which I consider vandalism. Again any help would be appreciated. Libertycookies 15:50, 28 June 2007 (UTC) There is no such a thing as "summarily deletion". The article you referred to was deleted in AfD. See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Politics_and_influences_of_J.K._Rowling The new POV fork you created is now in AfD. See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Influence_and_activism_of_J._K._Rowling. You are so confused by your own POV forking that you do not discern between the previous article and the new on you created in an attempt to bypass community consensus. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 17:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC) RfA Well, now your RfA is officially over (you just need to be promoted by a 'crat now). Congratulations man! I knew it would work out this time around :). Nishkid64 (talk) 00:13, 30 June 2007 (UTC) YOU ARE THE BEST!!! Thescary1 (Talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else. Thank you for ALL of your help and support. Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. WOW!!! HOW COOL IS THAT!!! NICE WORK. KEEP IT UP Jreferee!!! YOU ROCK!!! Beat-the-crat congrats Since you have (or very soon will have) your shiny new sysop buttons, congrats! And please remember: When you protect a page, you will always protect the wrong version. Someone will quickly bring this to your attention, and demand that you revert the page to a different wrong version. Repeat this procedure as often as necessary. If you block a user who is acting up, you are abusive. If you choose not to, you are enabling disruptive users and trolls. If you delete a questionable article, you do not respect the work of editors. If you don't, you're allowing an article which is (insert at least one of:libelous, patently false, totally unacceptable) to threaten the reputation of the whole project. Whenever you do one of these things, someone will be happy to let you know clearly and politely. Now have fun, and go block Jimbo delete the main page go do great at it! Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:40, 30 June 2007 (UTC) You're an Admin! File:Party.gif Congratulations on a well-deserved promotion! SlimVirgin (talk) 08:14, 30 June 2007 (UTC) It is my pleasure to inform you that you are now an admin. Congratulations. You can feel free to do everything you're supposed to do and nothing you're not supposed to do. If you haven't already, now is the time look through the Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide and Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or at the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. -- Cecropia 06:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Congratulations, Jreferre! If I had noticed your candidacy in time, you'd have had my support. I'm impressed by your growth as a contributor. Oh, and for the record, I'm a he ;) --cj | talk 06:34, 30 June 2007 (UTC) No worries. Best of luck with your mop,--cj | talk 06:58, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Yayy!!! Congratulations and welcome aboard! :) Grab yer mop - Alison ☺ 07:32, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Unrelated point; while I was vandalising your userpage just now, I noticed that your icons at the top don't "click" to where they're supposed to. The text below does. Want me to fix that? - Alison ☺ 07:36, 30 June 2007 (UTC) (forever gnoming) Congratulations mate, good luck with it :) Riana (talk) 08:02, 30 June 2007 (UTC) YAY! You'll do well as an administrator, and if you don't, well... then, um, well I'm sure you'll do well. ;) Good luck! (spebi · talk) 08:50, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Congrats my friend - welcome to the team.--VS talk 08:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Use the tools responsibly or a large group of people with hot pokers and angry expressions will chase you :). Nah, have fun being an admin! (still, look round corners just in case that certain group of people decide to come after you ;p) Anonymous DissidentTalk 09:45, 30 June 2007 (UTC) —AldeBaer (c) 11:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Congrats. I also thought you were already an admin.. my bad.Peace.Lsi john 15:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Congratulations!! You'll make a great admin. I'm taking a forced wikibreak due to lack of internet connection. When I'm back (in the next few days), if you need any help, you know where to find me Sir Referee! Ryan Postlethwaite 20:57, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Well done Jreferee....we got DYK backlogs waiting for you! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:46, 3 July 2007 (UTC) well done Well done making it as an admin, thank you for your faith in your supporters. Francisco Tevez 11:14, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Adminship Hey congratulations on your RfA! J-stan Talk 15:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC) You're welcome! You're welcome, Jreferee! :) Excellent success: no consensus last time to a near-unanimous tally of 95/1/1 this time! :) Acalamari 16:18, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Congrats †Sir James Paul† has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Congrats on becoming an admin on the english wikipedia. Good luck:)--†Sir James Paul† 01:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC) DYK Did you know? was updated. On 30 June, 2007, a fact from the article Tellico Blockhouse, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. --Carabinieri 12:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Your Welcome I looked at what you had done and I liked it. Good Work!!! - Libertyville 13:35, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Fixed toolbar! I fixed your userpage toolbar, as requested. All the icons now link to pages, whereas they didn't. I cleaned out all the cruft, made it all easier to edit and maintain. I think the "Article for Deletion Proposal" should be scrunched to one word, but I left it alone :) There's a new 'article' in your userspace now, called User:Jreferee/Imagelink which is used for manipulating the images. I tried to keep the look and feel exactly the same & I think I managed to. All done - hope you like it :) - Alison ☺ 14:08, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Wow! Thanks. Please feel free to change the look and feel, too, if you like. I took my user page from Nishkid64, so he might appreciate receiving the same changes to his user page. -- Jreferee (Talk) 15:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC) Glad you like it :) I just dropped by Nishkid64's user page and fixed up over there. Two jobs for the price of one - Alison ☺ 16:00, 30 June 2007 (UTC) DYK Did you know? was updated. On 30 June, 2007, a fact from the article Armenia and the European Union, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. --Carabinieri 22:43, 30 June 2007 (UTC) RfA stuff I hope you didn't take the "over enthusiastic" comment too personally. It was in relation to that collection of biography articles you AfD-listed a while ago, although that situation resolved itself very well for all concerned. Besides, a little too much enthusiasm has got to be a good thing once in a while :). Congratulations on the success, too. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC) The over enthusiastic comment was a kind way of putting. That was back near March 1, 2007 were I was using prod for the first time, some noses were put out of joint due to my, uh, over enthusiastic use, and you offered your kind assistance as a new admin to help resolve the matter. It took about two days to realign the noses and when it was all over I stamped that one lesson learned. I definitely keep that lesson in mind whenever I use prod. Thank you for all your help and I'm sure we'll see each other around the admin water cooler. -- Jreferee (Talk) 06:39, 1 July 2007 (UTC) DYK Did you know? was updated. On 1 July, 2007, a fact from the article Barney Battles, Jr., which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. --Carabinieri 09:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC) Hi there The acrimony seems to have died down at WP:V and people are now co-operating on a single version that should be able to accommodate all views. Please feel free to edit this draft. here or add specific comments on how to improve it, either for clarity or including more of the relevant viewpoints. Tim Vickers 20:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC) Congratulations and help please Congratulations on becoming an admin! Could you please look at the Rosie O'Donnell entry? I found that an untruth had been inserted there regarding Clay Aiken ("he has never said if he was gay or not"), so I rephrased and included a source, Rolling Stone. I included a quote from the Rolling Stone interview in the edit notes ("...either you're a womanizer or you've got to be gay. Since I'm neither one of those...."), but my change was removed today and replaced with the old statement. What he said on GMA & Larry King was that he was tired of answering because people are going to believe what they want to believe anyway, but that point went right over most people's heads. Normally reliable sources did report at that time that "he has never said if he was gay or not," but those reliable sources were incorrect. I could list multiple sources for statements that he has made in the past that he is not gay, but it's really beside the point to this section in O'Donnell to get into all that. Hope you can help. Thanks. -Jmh123 14:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Your post, Aiken steadfastly refuses to discuss his sexuality these days,[43] as earlier statements about his orientation[44] have been ignored. replaced the post, Aiken steadfastly refuses to discuss his sexuality and has never stated if he were homosexual or not.[1] I was unable to find any mention of sexuality or the pharse ("...either you're a womanizer or you've got to be gay. Since I'm neither one of those....") in Hedegaard,Erik. (July 10, 2003) Rolling Stone. New Kid on the Block. Issue 926, p40-44. If you have a reliable source for a statement that he has made in the past that he is not gay, then it is not true that "has never stated if he were homosexual or not" and reason enough to remove/replace that from the O'Donnell article. Although not required, it would help other contributors verify your point if that reliable source were accessible over the Internet. -- Jreferee (Talk) 15:47, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Further comment. WP:BLP addresses sexual preferences by stating, The subject's beliefs or sexual preferences are relevant to the subject's notable activities or public life, according to reliable published sources. Here, public figure Clay's sexual preferences appear relevant to O'Donnell's notable activities or public life, according to reliable published sources (O'Donnell's seems to have made them relevant). I think if you were to seek GA status for the O'Donnell article, the reviewer may find that too much text in that article has been devoted to the Kelly Ripa / Clay Aiken for the article to comply with WP:NPOV. -- Jreferee (Talk) 16:00, 2 July 2007 (UTC) (no indent for better format of response) Thanks. Note that at the end of page 2 of the Rolling Stone link it states, (Excerpted from RS 926, July 10, 2003). This excerpt is not the full article. Nonetheless, Rolling Stone is a reliable source and is freely available in libraries and in full text online archives. The full context is: "Some people, for example, seem to think that because he is slender, has long, fluttering eyelashes, and currently doesn't have a girlfriend, he must be gay. Indeed, after Aiken somewhat awkwardly tossed the first pitch at a Durham Bulls minor-league baseball game, dreadful comic Jimmy Kimmel felt called upon to tell his talk show's audience, "But that's OK, folks, because Clay's a catcher, not a pitcher." Even so, this kind of stuff seems to amuse Aiken more than it upsets him. "One thing I've found of people in the public eye," Aiken says, "either you're a womanizer or you've got to be gay. Since I'm neither one of those, people are completely concerned about me. They're like, What are you, then?' I'm sure it has to do with being raised by women. I wouldn't want somebody gawking at my mom and grabbing her butt and catcalling at her, trying to hook up with her at a bar. I'm not saying I'm not going to look. Hello! But you know what I mean?" Another reference, also not available on line, is the Prime Time Live interview with Diane Sawyer, 10/09/03, Diane: In Rolling Stone he hinted he's a virgin and denied what's asked him over and over again. Is he gay? He says no.... "I think it's high time there's somebody who represents people who aren't gay, but doesn't sleep around with everybody...you know. If I'm supposed to carry the banner for all the nerds in the world I'm fine with that, too, so...." There are other sources from that time period (Star, J-14), none on line, which seem to be derivative of one of these two sources, as well as several interviews in 2004 during the Independent Tour promotion, all in "for pay only" newspaper archives. I did not ask that mention of controversy over Aiken's orientation be removed, only the incorrect statement that "he has never stated whether he is homosexual or not." The link to the GMA interview, cited as a source for this statement actually says the opposite, "Aiken said he protested similar rumors a few years ago because he was naive. 'I walked out of that 'American Idol' door after being sequestered in a house for 16 weeks into the real world,' he said. '[The rumor] surprised me I guess a little bit. … It's, apparently, fascinating to everyone.' " It's not online anymore either, by the way, but you can read it here [2]. -Jmh123 17:22, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks--I changed the quote you used to a different one from the entry that makes it more clear why he has chosen not to answer anymore. The cites look fine. -Jmh123 18:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Thank you very much ... .. for the suggestion to nominate Education and Training 2010 for a mention on the main page. I didn't think it would be suitable - but I have happily taken your advice! Raggio 16:13, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks from me also! Do you have any suggestions for the lead-in sentence I might use for Shelley Archer? I'm not very good at this sort of thing. Rebecca 18:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks. I feel that referring to the conviction in DYK would be something of a BLP violation, considering that she's not particularly known for it. It's only notable in the context that, combined with the corruption scandal, it very nearly became the icing on the cake and ended her career - it wasn't even public knowledge until this March. I asked a couple of people on IRC, and they couldn't come up with a good alternative, so I think I might leave it. Rebecca 19:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks anyway. :) Rebecca 19:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC) My RfA Thank you for participating in my RfA. It was successful, and I am now, may God have mercy on us all, an administrator. Look at all the new buttons! I had heard about 'protect,' 'block user,' and 'delete,' but no one told me about 'kill,' 'eject,' and 'purée.' I appreciate the trust the community has in me, and I'll try hard not to delete the main page or block Jimbo. -FisherQueen (Talk) 17:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC) DYK I know what DKY is :P but I didn't know there was a bot selection thingy, what kind of things does it look for? SGGH speak! 20:42, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Neat, never knew that. Anyway I nominated it at DYK I think I've chosen an interesting enough hook you can take a look if you like. SGGH speak! 20:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Hoax Thanks for letting me know! Well, well... However this was my posting, and it was further revised before hitting the front page. I thought most people would understand the irony after me having added "extensive efforts to have it removed". It's hard to please everybody, and I was actually planning to rewrite the hook - as the handprint very much appeared to be an American version of the blood spot in The Canterville Ghost ;D , best, Camptown 21:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks Thanks for the note on the Giichi Nishihara‎ article. I'll try to polish it up a little more today and then follow through with your recommendation. Dekkappai 21:45, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Trygg class torpedo boat Hi Jreferee. Thank you for reading the article, and for your commendation. As you suggested, I posted the article on the Did you know? suggestions. I'm honored that you liked my article. Manxruler 01:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC) HNoMS Heimdal OPV (1892) Thanks for that one too. Appreciate it. Manxruler 01:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC) Late award The 25 DYK Medal So sorry this is so late, but you are due for the 25 DYK award! Congratulations for your fine contributions! Have a great day, Anonymous DissidentTalk 02:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC) Again, sorry its so late. Anonymous DissidentTalk 02:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC) No need to be sorry. What a nice surprise to find on my talk page! Thank you. -- Jreferee (Talk) 06:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC) My recent RfB Thank you so much for your participation in my recent RfB. Though it closed with 72% support (below the required 90%), I'm still quite pleased at the outpouring of support shown by a fair percentage of the community. I'm currently tabulating and calculating all opposing and neutral arguments to help me better address the community's concerns about my abilities as a bureaucrat. If you'd like, you can follow my progress (and/or provide additional suggestions) at User:EVula/admin/RfB notes. Thanks again! EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC) Yavapai people Hey, thanks for the kind words. I'm really pressed for time this week, and have never dealt with DYK stuff before. Would you feel like nominating it? Cheers! Murderbike 06:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC) I posted a nomination. -- Jreferee (Talk) 06:19, 3 July 2007 (UTC) Signpost updated for July 2nd, 2007. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 3, Issue 27 2 July 2007 About the Signpost IP unwittingly predicts murder of wrestler: "Awful coincidence" Board election series: Elections open German chapter relaunches website, arranges government support WikiWorld comic: "Cashew" Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report on Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line  |  Single-Page View Shortcut : WP:POST You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot 07:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC) WP Sig Since I kinda got the impression you wanted one, here you go. Copy/paste this: <sub>''[[User talk:Jreferee|(ʇɐɥʍ)]]''</sub>'''[[User:Jreferee|ǝǝɹǝɟǝɹſ]]''' for (ʇɐɥʍ)ǝǝɹǝɟǝɹſ --ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 13:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC) Tourism in Karnataka Hi. About the article tourism in Karnataka, I didn't acually write the article, I simply moved the article from Karnataka tourism to Tourism in Karnataka, which I thought sounded more appropriate. I haven't actually read the article myself. User talk:Mindys12345 Student engagement Thanks for your note re: DYK. I nominated it earlier today (July 3), before you sent your note. Just FYI. – Freechild (BoomCha) 05:13, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Italy Runestones Thanks for pointing out that the article on the Italy Runestones has DYK potential. Unfortunately, I have some experience with DYKs from before and the Kjárr incident showed me that DYK also attracts trouble. A French-Canadian User:Dusis stalked me from Talk:Scandinavia and began his attacks when Kjárr appeared on the front page, by messing up referenced information. What happened? A French-Canadian administrator User:Circeus protected Dusis' version (what a coincidence). Several established users and administrators stepped in on my side, unprotected the page, and tried to deal with the two French-Canadians, but the nomination showed me that nominating for DYKs has its disadvantages. So, thank you for pointing out the article's potential, but I won't push for any DYK nomination.--Berig 08:16, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Pfalz (ship) I've just nominated it at DYK. Thanks for your interest --Melburnian 08:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Floating bat head Thank you! :-) I used to have a lot of animated things on my page, but I had to get rid of them after spotting the same ones on a bunch of user pages belonging to people who said they were 13. I think some of them were banned eventually for being adults pretending to be kids, but either way, it wasn't an image I was keen to nurture. :-) SlimVirgin (talk)(contribs) 09:34, 4 July 2007 (UTC) My RFA Hi Jreferee, just a quick note to say thanks for participating in my request for adminship. It was successful and I now have some shiny new buttons. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Congratulations or your recent success and happy editing, mattbr 09:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC) FisherQueen Adminship Hia, just wanted to say thanks for posting on my talk page. I dont log in loads, but I guess after reviewing what you said, maybe i took it a bit personally - I think FQ is admin now anyway, so thats a good thing :) But the fact you took the time out to discuss as you did really rebuilt faith in wikiworld - so thanks! Icerinkprincess 11:28, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Question on my Editor Review Thank you for posting your question on my RFA - a third party/objective review of my RFA would be extremely beneficial (I am weary of running for a RFA again, but developmental input is always appreciated). Thank you! --Ozgod 12:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Vichy Hi! Thanks for your comments. But, to be honest, Foreign relations of Vichy France is just a subarticle from Vichy France, which is becoming too large. I'm sure we could work it out to be lot better before nominating it, starting by organisation of contents. Cheers! Tazmaniacs 16:27, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Re:Prashant Tamang Thanks for the message and compliments. I have created a DYK in the suggested section. However, I am not that good with DYK stuffs (you can find some of my lousy stuffs in Portal:Newar). All the same thanks for your interest. Thank you.--Eukesh 21:33, 4 July 2007 (UTC) WP:RFA/ACL 2 Thanks for your support the second time around! :) Acalamari 22:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC) DYK Thank you for the kind words and the reminder. But did you know that you could also nominate the article? You don't need my permission :) Anyway, thanks! Renata 00:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC) Given the number of "Good" articles proposed by bot, I found it took too much time for me to nominate each article. We discussed the matter at DYK discussion and came up with prodding the article creators to generate a nomination. -- Jreferee (Talk) 00:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC) RE:List of atheist Nobel laureates Hello Jreferee! Thank you for appreciating the article and telling me about Did you know... section. RS 04:41, 5 July 2007 (UTC) User:Devraj5000 "Richard Feynman was an avowed atheist. I am also an avowed atheist. However, culturally, I still consider myself a Hindu. You Jews are also similar." Please, feel free to promotoe atheism and whatever religion you want, but this message is without meaning or anything to do with the list it is posted to. Again, feel free to promote whatever religion you want, wherever you want it on Wikipedia, however, please don't encourage other editors to discuss their religious belief systems as part of unrelated talk pages--User:Devraj5000 should be gently encouraged in positive ways of finding like-minded individuals on the web where he can discuss his faith, rather than wasting his, your and my energies on unrelated article talk pages. KP Botany 05:34, 5 July 2007 (UTC) Mr. KP Botany, stop crying like a child. If you want discussion, visit my talk page. RS Thank you for the post which shows you are in perfect agreement with my comment above: "The purpose of a Wikipedia talk page is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or project page. Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views." Bolded in the original. So, now, please revert it back and put the message on Devraj5000's talk page as I suppose you meant to, considering it's opening lines and bolded comment. Thanks. KP Botany 05:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC) You were right to revert his removal of the referenced content from the List of Jewish Nobel laureates article. However, his talk page comment as a whole did address the article and the Richard Feynman entry in particular, but contained uncivil content. I removed that uncivil content and posted a message on Devraj5000's talk page about the matter. -- Jreferee (Talk) 05:57, 5 July 2007 (UTC) I disagree that the content you removed was uncivil. What was inappropriate was his continued and now boring introdution of his belief system onto the article's talk page. It seems to me that your focus on his addressing Jews has led him to believe this was the only issue, and he has no reverted the article again. I request that you tell him to cease with this, removing Feynman from the article, until he has reached a consensus on the talk page with all editors of whatever belief system. His addressing only Jewish editors was merely rude, not uncivil per se, and focusing on it appears to give him carte blanche to revert. I ask you to revert him again, and remind him of the appropriate places to discuss his belief systems on Wikipedia, in particular of the fact that his belief system does not constitute any sort of evidence or reference for any content on Wikipedia. Thanks. KP Botany 21:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC) I made a mistake by addressing only Jewish editors. KP. Botany: " ask you to revert him again, and remind him of the appropriate places to discuss his belief systems on Wikipedia, in particular of the fact that his belief system does not constitute any sort of evidence or reference for any content on Wikipedia." What nonsense! KP. Botany, you don't know anything about atheism, do you? How can you say that 'his belief system does not constitute any sort of evidence or reference for any content on Wikipedia'? Read: Atheism, List of atheists and List of atheist Nobel laureates. There you will find many evidence or reference for atheism. Why are you crying in the talk page of Jreferee about me? RS I meant his comments were incivil per talk page guidelines, not uncivil. The material now is referenced and I added a comment to the talk page regarding this. -- Jreferee (Talk) 00:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC) I am removing the discussion I am removing the discussion between you and KP Botany about me! RS 04:19, 6 July 2007 (UTC) Reverted back to restore discussion between Jreferee and KP Botany--Ozgod 13:51, 6 July 2007 (UTC) Why are you interfering? If you want to understand what is going on, please go to the talk page of List of Jewish Nobel laureates. RS 08:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC) I am not anti-Jewish Look, I am an atheist. I believe that we humans are here because of evolution. I am not against Jews. In fact, I like Jews. I don’t think that my comments were uncivil. I was just trying to be a little funny. RS 06:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC) And, thank you for some useful suggestions. RS 07:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC) Email Yes, I did get it. Thank you for sending it - that last two days have been pretty much Murphy's Law for me, so getting everything squared away. Was literally in the process of replying to you when I saw your message on here. Again, thank you (reply coming soon!). --Ozgod 01:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC) Task Force You are being recruited by the Salem Witch Trials Task Force, a collaborative project committed to improving Wikipedia's coverage of the Salem Witch Trials. Join us! Psdubow 14:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)