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Wikidata weekly summary #170

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Wikidata weekly summary #171

My edit

I was wondering how I could edit on Wikipedia so i changed anything. I'm sorry about the disturbance. I will for sure use the sandbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.210.81 (talk) 22:51, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #172

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Wikidata weekly summary #173

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Raidr21

Hi there, I was just wondering what your connection to Raidr21 is, if any? I know you edited the Wiki page several months ago. I'm closely related to the mishap and was just wondering who you are or if I know you.

Cheryl Cheryllee24 (talk) 12:55, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

@Cheryllee24: Assuming you're talking about the article 2008 Guam B-52 crash, I only edited that article using a semi-automated tool (AutoWikiBrowser) to remove some text that shouldn't have been in a template. I have no connection to the subject to the article, and usually Wikipedia editors shouldn't be connected to the subject of articles they edit anyway. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 04:25, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #174

RFC

Mjroots has opened an RFC at Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template#RFC, challenging the use of the new system and demanding that no further RDTs should be changed. Useddenim (talk) 00:59, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #175

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Template:Infobox China station

I see you changed the template after my edit. Please be sure you're happy with it before the bulk substitution goes ahead. BU Rob13 has a request queued at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BU RoBOT 6. Regards, Bazj (talk) 17:27, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

@Bazj: I was fixing a small problem caused by ASDFGH adding the {{rail-interchange}} template to some transclusions to replace the big symbols at the top in |icon=. It should work okay now. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 04:12, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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VisualEditor update

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VisualEditor News #5—2015

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You can use the visual editor on smartphones and tablets.

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Click the pencil icon to open the editor for a page. Inside that, use the gear menu in the upper right corner to "Switch to visual editing".

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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs, added new features, and made some small design changes. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages like Japanese and Arabic, making it easier to edit on mobile devices, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

Recent improvements

Educational features: The first time you use the visual editor, it now draws your attention to the Link and ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽ tools. When you click on the tools, it explains why you should use them. (T108620) Alongside this, the welcome message for new users has been simplified to make editing more welcoming. (T112354) More in-software educational features are planned.

Links:  It is now easier to understand when you are adding text to a link and when you are typing plain text next to it. (T74108T91285) The editor now fully supports ISBN, PMID or RFC numbers. (T109498, T110347, T63558)  These "magic links" use a custom link editing tool.

Uploads:  Registered editors can now upload images and other media to Commons while editing. Click the new tab in the "Insert Images and media" tool. You will be guided through the process without having to leave your edit. At the end, the image will be inserted. This tool is limited to one file at a time, owned by the user, and licensed under Commons's standard license. For more complex situations, the tool links to more advanced upload tools. You can also drag the image into the editor. This will be available in the wikitext editor later.

Mobile:  Previously, the visual editor was available on the mobile Wikipedia site only on tablets. Now, editors can use the visual editor on any size of device. (T85630)  Edit conflicts were previously broken on the mobile website. Edit conflicts can now be resolved in both wikitext and visual editors. (T111894) Sometimes templates and similar items could not be deleted on the mobile website. Selecting them caused the on-screen keyboard to hide with some browsers. Now there is a new "Delete" button, so that these things can be removed if the keyboard hides. (T62110) You can also edit table cells in mobile now.

Rich editing tools:  You can now add and edit sheet music in the visual editor. (T112925)  There are separate tabs for advanced options, such as MIDI and Ogg audio files. (T114227 and T113354)  When editing formulæ and other blocks, errors are shown as you edit. It is also possible to edit some types of graphs; adding new ones, and support for new types, will be coming.

On the English Wikipedia, the visual editor is now automatically available to anyone who creates an account. The preference switch was moved to the normal location, under Special:Preferences.

Future changes

You will soon be able to switch from the wikitext to the visual editor after you start editing. (T49779) Previously, you could only switch from the visual editor to the wikitext editor. Bi-directional switching will make possible a single edit tab. (T102398) This project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab, similar to the system already used on the mobile website. The "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time.

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VisualEditor News #6—2015

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A new, simpler system for editing will offer a single Edit button. Once the page has opened, you can switch back and forth between visual and wikitext editing.

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If you prefer having separate edit buttons, then you can set that option in your preferences, either in a pop-up dialog the next time you open the visual editor, or by going to Special:Preferences and choosing the setting that you want:
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The current plan is for the default setting to have the Edit button open the editing environment you used most recently.

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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs and expanded the mathematics formula tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages such as Japanese and Arabic, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

Recent improvements

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The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the following Wikipedias in early 2016: Amharic, Buginese, Min Dong, Cree, Manx, Hakka, Armenian, Georgian, Pontic, Serbo-Croatian, Tigrinya, Mingrelian, Zhuang, and Min Nan. (T116523) Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. The developers would like to know how well it works. Please tell them what kind of computer, web browser, and keyboard you are using.

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Template:Infobox Chinese/Chinese

click 'show' below to see error

Hi, I was trying to track down a template problem that I noticed was causing lots of invalid images to be flagged at Category:Articles with missing files.

I believe this is caused by your edits here to Template:Infobox Chinese/Chinese, but I wasn't sure what the fix was so thought I'd let you know and hopefully you can know the best way to fix. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:26, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

@KylieTastic: Thanks for telling me; this happened because Module:Pinyin automatically changes "v" to "ü" and I didn't realize {{Audio}} was used inside the template. I've reverted the changes for now. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 12:32, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

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BSsplit, BSto, BScvt, BSsrws

OK, now that you’ve converted these from standalone templates to Lua modules, I have now idea of even where to find them, let alone continue to maintain them! Useddenim (talk) 12:53, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

@Useddenim: I just stuck the script into the middle of Module:Routemap near line 530. I could have just kept using Module:BSto, but it would be a little confusing to use the BSto name for all four of them (would BSsplit be better?), and it helps a little bit with transwikiing the RDT series. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 13:00, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For four years' worth of unrecognised but irreplaceable editing! Muffled Pocketed 14:42, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
@Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: Thanks for the barnstar! :) Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 15:08, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

SEML diagram

moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#SEML diagram

Module:Routemap/sandbox trimmer function

I almost gave up after numerous fails. You may try fixing if you're in the mood. orz -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 23:51, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

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ill-WD template

Hello! I just added musician Ken Morioka to the Deaths in June 2016 list as he is a very significant figure not to be listed, but as the English Wikipedia currently only has a section on him in the Soft Ballet article, I wanted to use the [[]] [] template to use the Japanese article about him for his name. Unfortunately I can't seem to figure out the syntax. If you have a moment, could you please help? Thanks!Umenohana686 (talk) 05:43, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Umenohana686: Fixed. (I've changed it so it uses the {{Interlanguage link multi}}/{{illm}} template instead, as there is only one article about him.) To use the {{Interlanguage link Wikidata}}/{{ill-wd}} template, you would write {{ill-WD|Ken Morioka|Q11539547}}, as "Q11539547" is Morioka's Wikidata identifier. Happy editing! —Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 06:06, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
@Jc86035: Thank you! For future reference, how would I go about finding the Wikidata identifier for a page?Umenohana686 (talk) 06:24, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
@Umenohana686: It's usually in the sidebar on the left ("Wikidata item"), in the Tools section between "Page information" and "Expand citations". (Put a space before your signature; it's not added automatically.) Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 06:37, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
@Jc86035: Thanks! By the way, another editor has attempted to remove his name claiming lack of own article on the English version means he is not significant. Do you have any experience with this issue spanning interlanguage Wikis? When the news broke here in Japan, the headline ran on all major news networks and as you have seen, he has a Japanese article (in addition to his work being covered in other articles on the English Wikipedia). Umenohana686 (talk) 06:45, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
@Umenohana686: I don't really edit in that section of Wikipedia much, so I'll assume the solution is to create an article. When you have edited for a month and have at least 500 edits, you could try using the content translation tool, but currently it's only possible for you to translate it manually. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 06:58, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
@Jc86035: Thanks, I'm starting on a draft for one now. They said it had to be there within one month of his death, so I'm not sure how much it will help. I reverted it for now and cited the long standing Japanese article, maybe they weren't paying attention and only saw the redlink. Umenohana686 (talk) 07:02, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
@Umenohana686: I think that you shouldn't add him back until there is a solid draft for an article about him; see WP:Stand-alone lists § Common selection criteria. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 07:15, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
@Jc86035: I see, thank you. I will translate the most useful/sourceable parts from the Japanese article and hopefully produce at least a solid stub shortly. Umenohana686 (talk) 07:26, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Where?

Where do I apply for rename ?--Νικόλας Παπαποστόλου (talk) 14:29, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

@Νικόλας Παπαποστόλου: Please go to WP:RENAME and follow the instructions. If you want to ignore the instructions, then click here. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 14:31, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


Thank you, but i do not want to put email and necessary. Another way?--Νικόλας Παπαποστόλου (talk) 14:39, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

@Νικόλας Παπαποστόλου: Either go to Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple, or read the instructions. It's not that hard to get a machine translation or read the Greek version. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 14:43, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
If you want help in the future, go to the help desk. (By the way, renaming your account is not going to end your blocks on other wikis.) Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 14:36, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Module:HK-MTR stations

Hi, I removed a bunch of stuff from Module:HK-MTR stations, but from this diff, it looks like more can be removed now? I spot checked a few of the transcluding articles and I don't think I removed too much. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:54, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

@Plastikspork: I think we'll need to substitute {{Infobox MTR}} (already in the TfD holding cell) first, since I think one of its useless subtemplates that I decided to create for no reason is still using the module's line data (basically, stuff that should have gone into Wikidata). Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 04:25, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Coordinates deprecation

Hey there. It seems clear enough that the coordinates deprecation proposal will pass. I feel we should have a plan, something resembling an actual organized implementation effort, as contrasted to the more common haphazard approach. I think you would necessarily be a key player in the implementation, so your participation in the planning would likewise be key to success.

I can commit a lot of time to infobox doc changes. To whatever extent the doc can be changed without any special user right, I could handle all of it. I don't see any reason why we couldn't have just two versions of the coordinates doc for infoboxes: one for infoboxes that support {{Location map}}, and another for those that do not. The only variation should be the name of the |coordinates= parameter, which is not universal. So I think we should spend some time perfecting those two versions, and then I can simply drop one or the other into each infobox doc, changing the parameter name where necessary.

The implementation should include the tracking category and that should be in the plan rather than an afterthought.

It doesn't seem unreasonable to aim at, say, two months to finish the infobox template and doc changes. But I'm largely feeling my way around, not entirely sure of the best way to proceed. For example, we can post template edit requests, but what happens with the ones that are ignored? (BTW, per your last comment in the RfC, it looks like 200 edit requests, not 50 as you said in the precursor discussion, right?)

Do you have any thoughts on any of this? ―Mandruss  23:36, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

@Mandruss: I'd assume that the instructions would be something like An RFC […] deprecated coordinates-related parameters such as […] |latd=, |latm= […] and |coordinates_display= in favour of using a single parameter, such as |coordinates=.
Any infoboxes using those individual parameters (or others with equivalent functionality) should show them as deprecated in their documentation and tracking categories should be used to track their remaining usage – put this at the end of the infobox:
{{#if:{{{latd|}}}{{{longd|}}}…[other parameters]|[[Category:Pages using deprecated coordinates parameters]]}}
If the infobox contains any templates, like {{Location map}}, which use the deprecated parameters, where the parameters are used, nest these inside the innermost pair of vertical bar and triple braces ({{{latitude|}}}):
[table containing replacement syntax for parameters]
Many of the templates aren't template- or fully-protected, so we could modify them per the RfC without asking the maintainers or making edit requests. —Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 06:58, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Errors

Whatever you were illustrating here is now throwing red error messages. I assume it's probably fixable. If not, and its a moot point, it might be good to collapse-box that section.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  19:44, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

@SMcCandlish: I've fixed it in the sandbox, thanks for notifying me. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 01:02, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
No prollem.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  01:48, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Modules

I had a long career in software, but in a very different environment. Just curious, (1) Is Lua the language used in the modules you've changed recently?, and (2) Is that language used in all en-wiki modules? If not, what other languages? ―Mandruss  02:04, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

@Mandruss: I think everything in the Module namespace is in Lua, yes. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 02:56, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Web colors userbox

Thanks for updating the format of my userbox. I didn't realize that my code was a bit behind the times. Best Regards, Godsy(TALKCONT) 11:40, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

@Godsy: No problem :) Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 12:46, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Infobox school

Description of |coordinates= at Template:Infobox school/doc#Map and coordinates doesn't look right. ―Mandruss  16:13, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

@Mandruss: Should be less confusing now; thanks for notifying me. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 16:20, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Coordinates

I did a sync, but I undid the module (and template change) for now; someone noted on my talk that Grade I listed buildings in Dorset#Bournemouth (which has calls to {{EH listed building row}}) was getting "{{#coordinates:}}: cannot have more than one primary tag per page". — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 16:10, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

@Andy M. Wang: Sorry about that, should be fixed now (typo: isInline → isInTitle). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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16:18, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Disambiguation

@Jc86035: Hi. it would be great if you give us your expertised judge on some controversial discussions I raised: disambiguating article names – Talk:Nara Line and Talk:Yamada Line. My stance is just following the Wikipedia naming convention. Thanks in advance. KU (talk) 09:46, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

@Jc86035: Hi. Thanks a lot for your cooperation. I appreciate your judge. Thanks again KU (talk) 22:25, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

RfC for page patroller qualifications

Following up from the consensus reached here, the community will now establish the user right criteria. You may wish to participate in this discussion. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:02, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Template Great Northern Railway Southern Area RDT

In the past, the closed railway stations on this template all carried the normal symbol of that status, but now there is no differentiation whatsoever shown on the document, which now shows all stations with the "open" status symbol.

I write to you as you are shown as the last person to make an edit on this template. Is it not possible to show all closed stations with the correct closed railway station symbol, similar to how matters are shown on the main Great Northern Railway Main Line template?

Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 05:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Pinging Useddenim. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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09:01, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

There still appears no action taken on the matter that I have raised Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 23:29, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

@Xenophon Philosopher: Well I only made a single semi-automated edit to the diagram, so I have no idea how to answer your question. Pinging Useddenim again. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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03:05, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed that. (Just finished year-end at work—don't you hate it when the real world intrudes on things?) Useddenim (talk) 03:39, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 Done. Useddenim (talk) 14:37, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
@Useddenim: Two things: (1) I'm not sure if the "as of 1921" header is still appropriate; (2) should Dalston Junction have the current Overground line continuting from it? Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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14:42, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Editing

I don't know who you are or what interest you have in defending the disgusting actions of "Joel B. Lewis", but when someone reverts with the edit summary "go away", then to call that a "reasonable revert" you are either trolling or you didn't understand the situation. I appreciate it if you don't undo my work for such stupid reasons again. 222.29.61.49 (talk) 15:01, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Well I mean all you did was remove a section which was properly sourced and had useful content… See also the policy on the three-revert rule. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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02:45, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
It did not have useful content. If it did, I would not have removed it. You think that telling someone to "go away" is reasonable. I find that disgusting. 222.29.61.49 (talk) 15:57, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

East Rail Line editing

@Jc86035: Hello, I understand that the East Rail Line and the North South Corridor are practically the same thing. But for the interchange stations on the East Rail Line, they have the future section for the North South Corridor. I just want to make the other stations the same as the ones with the future North South Corridor. Akc1902 (talk) 02:34, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

@Akc1902: It's just Tai Wai and Hung Hom; this is because both will actually have changes in their adjacent stations (similar to how this was done at Yau Ma Tei Station but not on the rest of the KTL). Maybe NSC should be removed from Tai Wai? Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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@Jc86035: All the stations on the East Rail Line will have their terminus changed to Admiralty instead of currently Hung Hom. That's the only reason why I wanted to put the future section on each intermediate station. Akc1902 (talk) 02:34, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
@Akc1902: Please sign your comments with four tildes. There's not much point in adding the template though, and there's no precedent to add it for every station of a line getting an extension. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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I am forbidden to revert your edits under the WP:3RR rule, so I'm not really sure what to do here. Pinging Epicgenius, Citobun, Marxistfounder and Sameboat for input. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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04:15, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
(Sign your comment or you may be reported to admin.) WP article is all about giving each information due weight depending on its importance to the subject. The extension of East Rail Line/North South Corridor is not necessarily important to every single existing station on the ERL. As for the S-line templates, AFAIC the general practice on en.wp is that we only denote it in the current terminus adjacent to the extension under construction, e.g. Kennington tube station includes the Northern line Battersea extention in S-line but not the other intermediate station on Northern line like Waterloo tube station. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 04:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
(Not signing a comment is not an offence punishable by block, by the way.) As I understand it, the East Rail Line is the current service pattern. The North South Corridor is the extension. So they are not the same. It's like conflating the Jubilee line with the Jubilee Line Extension, or the 7 (New York City Subway service), IRT Flushing Line, and 7 Subway Extension, to use other cities' examples. From the North South Corridor article, It will extend the East Rail Line to Admiralty station through the fourth cross-harbour railway tunnel in Hong Kong. epicgenius - (talk) 13:13, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: It's not really the extension given that the entire line is to be renamed/rebranded to "North South Corridor" (and the East Rail Line will probably be renamed before the actual extension opens, as it'd be pretty confusing to have an "East West Corridor" and "East Rail Line" for two years). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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13:18, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
So to clarify, the North South Corridor will refer to both the extension and the existing East Rail Line? That makes less sense to me, because now the North South Corridor is starting to sound more like "East Rail Line extension, plus the current East Rail Line which will be renamed". Which is what the N-S Corridor is, but it sounds really confusing. epicgenius - (talk) 13:26, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Yeah, basically. I don't think either North South Corridor or Sha Tin to Central Link clear this up very well, having re-read them. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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13:30, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Actually, looking at the Sha Tin to Central Link article, it seems as though the Sha Tin-Central link is actually two expansions: the East West Corridor, and the North South Corridor. So it's really two expansions. On top of that, the East Rail Line and Ma On Shan Line will both be renamed, to N-S Corridor and E-W Corridor respectively. I see how people can get confused epicgenius - (talk) 14:28, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Just to check, should the NSC S-line templates be put in the articles of the East Rail Line stations (except Hung Hom Station)? Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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14:34, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Yes, put the NSC templates under a "Future services" s-line header. epicgenius - (talk) 14:37, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: (pinging Sameboat) There's no change in the adjacent stations though… or should it be added regardless (given that the NSC article will probably be merged into the ERL article at some point)? Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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I don't think NSC and ERL should be merged. If anything, NSC is more a description of the ERL extension and rebranding. When NSC opens, the ERL article can describe the new NSC's historical designation. epicgenius - (talk) 15:01, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: It still will be exactly the same railway line at the time of its rebranding in 2019; the line has already been renamed twice (from "KCR British Section" to "KCR East Rail" in 1996, and from "KCR East Rail" to "East Rail Line" in 2007). I don't think we have separate articles for those. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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Officially NSC is really just treated as the extension of ERL[1] and take that as a chance to rebrand the railway, so I expect we will simply merge the ERL article into NSC once it begins service. After the MTR-KCR merger in 2007, we did not create new articles for distinguishing KCR East Rail, West Rail and Ma On Shan Rail from the rebranding (East Rail Line, West Rail Line & Ma on Shan Line respectively) but moved them to the new article titles, so I don't see the act of rebranding justifies a separate entity in S-line. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 15:19, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
OK, now I see how NSC is equal to a renamed ERL. It's actually wiser to merge the two articles if this is the case. epicgenius - (talk) 17:22, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

@Jc86035: I'm sorry for reverting all the changes, but I believed that it was right just to put the future section for each station on the East Rail line since in the future all station will terminate at Admiralty. I'm inexperienced and did not know about the signing at the end of each comment in every talk page. That's my mistake and thank you for correcting me and letting me know. But honestly, Sameboat needs to calm down. This is not the first time I've done something "wrong" in his/her's perspective, and he/she was very rude about correcting me. He/she is not even the one dealing with me. Therefore it was disrespectful to have so much attitude towards me. Akc1902 (talk) 02:58, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

And you disrespect our discussion here by adding future East West Corridor S-line to all West Rail Line and Ma On Shan Line stations articles without consensus. You did know that we are having very different opinions on this matter and intentionally cross the line by playing innocence even though you began editing English Wikipedia in December 2014. You are not inexperience, we are not going to treat you like a newbie. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 03:22, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

@Sameboat: Just because I've had the account for over a year now, it doesn't mean that I constantly use it. There was no need to use the commenting function on my account. Therefore I did not know that I had to leave a signing at the end. Thanks for letting me know that I have to sign at the end of each comment. But don't be so rude next time! Akc1902 (talk) 04:09, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

@Jc86035: I see that you liked my correction for the proposed Tseung Kwan O Line extension. If that can stay, then why can't the North South Corridor stay? I'm just asking, since the North South Corridor is an extension and a name change as said in your previous discussions. Akc1902 (talk) 04:08, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

@Akc1902: North Point is immediately adjacent [next to] a station [Causeway Bay North] on the proposed extension, so adding the template actually has some utility there. If you just wanted to link to the SCL page (as NSC will probably be merged into EAL soon), then you could mention it in the article text by writing about the ongoing station renovations. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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SVG Map of Tel Aviv

Hello, wanted to ask, what is the problem with Tel Aviv map we have created and posted? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tel_Aviv&oldid=prev&diff=746137170 Please explain, why did you delete it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilya Shrayber (talkcontribs) 10:57, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

@Ilya Shrayber: Basically, by posting your company's maps (if they are your company's maps) and links to your website on Wikipedia it seems like you're advertising your company. I'm not sure if adding the map images to Wikimedia Commons was advertising, but without proof that your company allows you to upload the images (and under a license which allows them to be commercially used by anyone without your permission!) it's probably not permissible. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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I'm doing nothing wrong

All I am doing is trying to make edits that could be helpful I places one space down that didn't affect it at all you are not an admin so please stop commenting on my talk page if you want me do stop at least tell me how to do constructive editing [[[User:VxBunny|VxBunny]] (talk) 12:20, 11 November 2016 (UTC)] — Preceding unsigned comment added by VxBunny (talkcontribs) 12:14, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

@VxBunny: It's not considered helpful to do that, because it doesn't actually change the displayed page and it's better to have either no spaces or one space on each side (with the same style for the entire page). (Regarding the warning, I used the sterner version because you'd already had warnings given to you this month, not because I think it's particularly harmful to add one space.) If you haven't already, you might want to check the links in the normal user welcome template, which should be useful. Happy editing, Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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P.S. Don't put your signature in square brackets, because it messes up the formatting. Also, regarding your question at the Teahouse, unless your friend is famous or notable for something or other, you shouldn't write a Wikipedia article about him (and someone will delete it if you do). Maybe you should try gifting him something tangible instead. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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Thank you for the helpful advise I'm sorry for the unconstructive editing I won't do it again VxBunny (talk) 14:09, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

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Printable map of Guangzhou, China

Hello. Sorry, what`s a problem with our maps? Don`t delete it, or please provide your own maps for the city. Otherwise please put our maps on the right place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhou https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Printable_and_editable_vector_map_of_Guangzhou_China.svg Source: http://vectormap.info/free_vector_maps_downloads/guangzhou-china-free-printable-svg-map-in-english/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilya Shrayber (talkcontribs) 16:13, 25 November 2016 (UTC)