User talk:Hordaland/Archives/2014/May

hello-please discuss on talk page

regarding your edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tasimelteon&oldid=607441816 which deleted info about the experiments to get this drug approved, I see in your edit remark something like, "up to 75 times the normal human dose". First of all in one of the very adverse Category "C" results, it was only two times the normal human dose. Believe me the way that I had that edit worded was STRICTLY true to the research. Please do not delete that info. or blank it out of the article again. Of course you are free to add or change-(edit), with factual information, or correct, but removing for no reason does not make sense unless there is some outside agenda--in any event, please discuss on the article talk page to avoid undoing each-other's work or disrupting the article-thanks24.0.133.234 (talk) 15:21, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Disability style guide - you're invited.

Have you seen this - WT:WikiProject Disability#Developing a style guide? Your participation would be appreciated. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Norwegian as two languages

Hi,

Since you're editing the Norwegian page, I wonder if you could help with the classification of Norwegian at North Germanic languages#Family tree. An editor is edit-warring over the claim that there are two languages called Norwegian. One of them has a dialect Nynorsk, and is Western Scandinavian, while the other has a dialect Bokmal and is Eastern Scandinavian. This is just a misrepresentation of the two principal standard registers as separate spoken languages, but the editor insists that there really are two separate languages, both called "Norwegian". Since he's Norwegian, he thinks he knows best, and doesn't recognize the difference between the spoken and written language. — kwami (talk) 22:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

• Hi Kwami (or Hei as we say/write in both nynorsk and bokmål)
• It appears to me that you know a great deal about linguistic classification and terminology. I can't compete with you there! And I don't have a clear picture of what's East Scandinavian and West Scandinavian or whatever those terms are. But it doesn't seem illogical to me to divide the country into the west being somewhat closer to Icelandic and the east closer to Swedish and Danish...
• It seems very strange to talk of edit-warring in May 2014 on an article where the talk page hasn't had an entry since July 2013! But it looks like that indeed is the situation. I haven't studied it well enough to see exactly who means what.
• We say in Norwegian that we have two written languages (språk) or it's sometimes said we have two written language-forms (målformer). Some people claim to speak one or another of them, but they're written languages. There are (almost) innumerable dialects in Norway.
• Nynorsk is not a dialect. Bokmål is not a dialect. They have both been the official languages in Norway since 1885.
• Here is some language-history from the website of the official Norwegian Language Council. In nynorsk: http://www.sprakradet.no/Tema/Fakta/ And here's what the Language Council writes about itself in English: "The Language Council of Norway is the consultative body for the Norwegian state and government on language issues. The charter of the Language Council of Norway states that the Language Council should work on strengthening the status of the Norwegian language now and in the future, as well as administering the two forms of the Norwegian language." (http://www.sprakradet.no/Toppmeny/Om-oss/English-and-other-languages/)
• I guess that prestige/prestigious are words used in linguistics. I really do not like to see them used in connection with Norwegian... There have never been serfs here.
• Interesting facts (IMO). Norway is 200 years old this month. Until now, the constitution has been in Danish, which was the written language here in 1814. That version is now gone, as of this month! We now have two equal versions, one in nynorsk and one in bokmål.
• I'm rambling. If you need me to look at some Norwegian (norsk) text for you, just holler. --Hordaland (talk) 01:45, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Hordaland. What you've said confirms my understanding of the situation. Hopefully we can get this ironed out.

A "prestige dialect" is just one that people think is good Norwegian, such as what news anchors aspire to.

Your constitution was still in Danish? I had no idea. — kwami (talk) 04:00, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Hehe, "Hordaland", I've found you! I am so happy to see you keeping up the good work here at en.wiki ;) So, so tired of people rambling about like this one... "Since he's Norwegian, he thinks he knows best, and doesn't recognize the difference between the spoken and written language." Well, even if it was the reason, why couldnt he ask first what my background for the edits were ? The established language reference "Ethnologue" actually supports my view, but the dumbwit is not interested. Here is another one : http://www.omniglot.com/writing/norwegian.htm The article itself is full of contradictions, errors and misconceptions, but I think I'll just leave it at that. I dont have the time or the energy to fight trolls. Even if they're originally Norwegian... Ha det fint, NB ! ;) Helsing Ø... :D Wikarth (talk) 23:43, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

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Fixed, thanks. --Hordaland (talk) 15:09, 30 May 2014 (UTC)