User talk:Hbackman/Archive2

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talk page

Ok, duh, I'm a newbie. I don't know how to find the talk page. help! I want to talk to you. from your user page, and all the little buttons, I think you are really cool. I agree with pretty much everything you said there. And I have some questions about certain things (like how to make my own page fancy and all, lol) Ok, thanks.

amyanda 06:22, 7 March 2006 (UTC)amyanda2000

Well, you found it. ;) Welcome to Wikipedia! I'd be happy to help you with any questions you have. You can edit my talk page or yours, and we'll have a little conversation. :) (I've replied on both your talk page and mine, by the way, to make sure you see my answer.) Hbackman 06:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I got your messege. I don't know specifically what my questions are yet, I just know that I'm gonna have them and you seemed like a cool person to ask.:) I am so obsessed with RENT currently- out of curiosity have you been a fan long? I've been interested in the play for a while but had no idea that they had broadway cast recordings or anything. I was so excited when I found out they were making it into a movie. I thought that it would be sold out- I thought, this is RENT, it's huge! There were like 10 people in the theature when I went. But at least no one walked out or said anything rude. Ok, so not like you need my life story, lol.

~~amyanda2000

Okay, well, ask away whenever you think of something.

I've been a RENT fan for several years now. Can't remember how long, exactly. I was somewhat excited about the movie, but I worried that they'd screw things up -- which, indeed, they did (IMHO), although some parts (La Vie Boheme and Roger's return from Santa Fe come to mind) are very good. (I should mention that I'm somewhat of a purist and am very rarely satisfied with movie adaptations of anything. ;) ) When did you go? I went maybe a month or less after its release and the theater was pretty full.

Hbackman 06:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

It was a Saturday (I think) afternoon, so maybe that had something to do with it. I think it had been out for a while. It was a bit before Xmas, becuase I'm a stay at home mom and I begged my boyfriend to give me the money (from the Christmas money) to take my friend who was moving out of state to go see it, because she wanted to see it too and I was dying to see it.

I would love to see it with Goodbye Love edited back in, but I understand the reason for cutting it. Partly. Chris said that it seemed strange for Roger and Mark to sing to each other when they never had before, that part I disagreed with. Roger and Mark seemed to have this undercurrent of tension throughout and at the point when they sang to each other it made sence because at that point they stopped holding back and everything just sort of burst forth. However, I see his point about everyone having already said goodbye at the cemetery- it was good not to show multiple goodbye's. But then again, to flip one more time, "Your eyes" makes so much more sence after you've seen "Goodbye love" I can definatly see both sides of that.

The movie was my first time seeing RENT so, I have nothing to compare it too, but from my perspective I thought it was perfect. And I thought that a lot of the reviewers were 'cynical assholes'- reminds me of the line from Big Daddy about styx being the greatest rock band of all time- "it just got a bad rap because most critics are cynical assholes"- I got the impression that it was just hip to bash the movie and unhip to like it. Even though, I can understand that it's not *really* perfect, I still think it's head and shoulders above most movies being made.

ps- this post is already too long but I wanted to add that I'm sort of using your user page as a template for mine.

amyanda 06:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)amyanda2000

Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I saw the musical first and own the soundtrack, so I'm very used to thinking about it in a different way than it was presented in the film. I miss the medleys with the homeless people -- it would've been difficult to film, but there are ways they could've done it. I miss "Goodbye Love," too, definitely. I miss "You Okay Honey," which is one of my favorite bits even though it's a short song. I MISS MISS MISS Mark's mom! I feel as though too much is simply gone, and especially in the first half, too much of what's left is rearranged for no reason that I can understand. *shrugs* Hbackman 07:00, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

have you seen the commentary on the DVD? they talk about why they made certain changes. Not saying that you'd necessarily agree or anything but it might help to know the reasons. Also, there is a great amount of wonderful information on Jonathan Larson on the DVD- I cried about as much watching that as I did watching the movie.

I don't know the song, but I do love the part were Angel sais, "You okay honey?" I had that in my sigline for IMDB for a while, but I just changed it to "There will always be women in rubber suits flirting with me!" All I can do is assure you that the messege of the movie got through loud and clear, even if it came in an altered form, lol. I love it so, I can hardly imagine that it could be better- but I'd be happy to see it for myself. With all that's been left out I can't help but wonder how long the stage show is. It seems like it must be 5 hours long or something!

amyanda 07:12, 7 March 2006 (UTC)amyanda2000

Haven't seen the DVD. College student, no time right now. ;)

The song is just too cute for words, IMO. It's short, but it involves Angel bopping Collins on the butt with his pickle tub. ;) Plus Angel and Collins are so my OTP for RENT, so their first meeting is particularly special to me.

Hbackman 01:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Spice Girls

Hey

Ive replied to comments on the discussion boards on the Spice Girls and Spice Girls library ... Rimmers 13 March 2006 04.15 (UTC)

Thanks

And thanks for working to build consensus. Your efforts are greatly appreciated. -Seth Mahoney 04:59, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Lou franklin

Your comments on this page are very clearly written and insightful. I think they belong as an amicus curae statement on the main RFA page as opposed to the Talk page. Cleduc 18:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

You think so? I'll move them, then. I wasn't quite sure what the rules are relating to who can post what in an RfA, so when I added my thoughts I figured I'd err on the side of caution and write on the talk page. Hbackman 01:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

62.255.236.59

About the bv tag, hmmmmm, I think his edits were deleted b/c it was a joke article. I would check for deleted edits using Interiots tool but toolserver is down right now... yeah I think that's what happened but I'll definantly look into it. Thanks for the awareness though! American Patriot 1776 23:53, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay. Sorry about the wrong note about the other bv tag, by the way. Hbackman 01:18, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Np. If we all were perfect, what would be the fun in making Wikipedia?!? American Patriot 1776 01:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page!--Andrew c 06:36, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't listen to User:Andrew c

And don't change my talk page, guy. I'm watching you.

G N A A™

Um, given this edit, I'm gonna listen to Andrew c. Also, I'm not a guy. Also, you can go ahead and make threats, but all you can do is vandalize and that'll just get you blocked, so I'm not going to be very worried if you're "watching me." Hbackman 06:40, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

It's really more of an expression. Your gender isn't important. And it's not a threat. Stop being so defensive, pal!

And that edit is a goddamn lie. Stop trying to frame me! 68.188.139.55

There's no way to forge a diff. That diff clearly shows someone from your IP (68.188.139.55) adding [[Category:American serial killers]], [[Category:Convicted child sex offenders]], [[Category:Rapists]] and [[Category:Escapees]] to Andrew c's userpage. Hbackman 06:44, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

"I'm watching you" sounds like a threat to me. Sorry if I misinterpreted it. Hbackman 06:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: User talk:Archola, I was obviously just complimenting his astute internet detective skills!

68.188.139.55

...in a sarcastic and insulting manner. You seem like a fairly intelligent person; I'm sure that you knew how your words would be taken. Hbackman 06:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm hurt that you would consider it sarcastic. Your comments are very hurtful! 68.188.139.55

Nope. I wouldn't threaten at all, and didn't mean it that way. Also, how do you know he doesn't fit those categories? Seems like a bias on your part. 68.188.139.55

If you can give me citations proving that that user fits those categories I'll believe you. I doubt you can give me those citations. Nevertheless, editing someone's user page without their permission is bad etiquette. Hbackman 06:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I consider your editing my talk page bad etiquette, and yet you did it! I'll work on getting those citations, but I'll apply them to the page rather than presenting them to you. 68.188.139.55

Talk pages are a little different than user pages, because they're meant to be a way for members of the community to communicate with a user. Sorry if I offended you somehow, but I was following Wikipedia protocol. Hbackman 07:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Protocol? Come on! Fight the power! JIHAD! 68.188.139.55

Why are you bringing witty lama into this? I thought we were pals! :( 68.188.139.55

As far as I can see, User:68.188.139.55 is a Troll. Please do not feed the trolls!Witty lama

A remarkably polite troll, though... hey, I have to amuse myself somehow, right? ;)

You probably have a point. But I do like to try to see if I can talk some people around.

Hbackman 07:14, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

That's a very mean thing to write, Lama. I wish you would be kind. 68.188.139.55

As you pointed out, It's true, I did not intend to refer to Hbackman in my vandalism warning. I actually intended to write User:Andrew c. I have since changed the warning to read this instead. Nevertheless, my point remains. User:68.188.139.55 has a series of bad-faith edits on andrew c's page. Witty lama 07:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

That is incorrect, friend. It's not "bad faith" just because you have a different viewpoint. Please don't try to bring vague guidelines into this either. This is a simple case of discrimination just because I'm less fortunate and post anonymously. I know you're capable of better behavior and I wish you would treat the hard work of other people with respect. Thanks again. 68.188.139.55

Adding categories such as "serial killers" and "rapists" and putting a user page up for deletion is bad faith, as is accusing someone of discrimination against you when they have been accurately warning you for vandalism (you aren't "less fortunate" just because you haven't chosen to create a username). Hbackman 07:33, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Your recent comments on my talk page are obvious trolling, and I have removed them. I will not respond to you any longer and, if your further comments on this page are similar, I will simply revert them. Hbackman 07:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

from User:Kc12286

In reference to your questions about the changes I made to the Pornography page. Having the picture at the top of the article pushes all the writing over to the right side of the page, in my opinion it made the article look slightly messy and cluttered. Therefore, I was trying to move the picture to another area where it would not interfere with the writing. I think most of us have seen porn videos and therefore know what various boxes and discs look like. I didn't mean to delete your picture I was trying to cut and paste it somewhere else, but saved the page before having that chance. Anyway, if I've offended you in some way, I'm sorry, I was just trying to improve the look of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kc12286 (talk • contribs)

Pornography

The users and anons before him had vandalized. The anon who had edited just previous to my revert was trying to revert, but apparently didn't know how to use the history. I reverted back a few edits, not just that anon, which is why it didn't have the God-mode light message in the edit summary. --Rory096 23:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

..for reverting the vandalism on my user page! Cheers! --Scaife ^(Talk) Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 00:00, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

No Problem

I was glad to revert the user page. Do you think I would have a chance if I applied for adminship ?. CharlesM 01:18, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Obscenity Warning

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Warning: Please do not add obscenities to Wikipedia. Injecting unnecessary profanities, racially or sexually abusive comments, or provocative pictures to articles or user pages offends many people. Wikipedia treats such actions as vandalism and blocks people from editing for such repeated vandalism. Lou franklin 03:00, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Note: See the talk page of the article to which the diff refers. The quote is at issue because it contains the word "cocksucker." Lou is the only one who thinks that it should be removed; consensus is against him. I have left this warning on my page because it is against policy to remove warnings from one's own user page. Hbackman 03:45, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Remove it?! I see it as a badge of honor. Haiduc 03:56, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

LOL, sort of like "Look! Trolls can't bother me?" Hbackman 04:02, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

from 0waldo

Who want's to change your mind? Do you even have one? 0waldo 02:21, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Take your 3R's ( random, rigid rods ) and insert them vertically in the proper cylinder please :) 0waldo 02:31, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't need to; I've got a boyfriend. But thanks anyway. Hbackman 02:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

look don't take me serious - I'm mr. jokester ;) 0waldo 02:34, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Putting smilies at the end of things doesn't make me incapable of discerning the incivility behind it, especially when combined with other comments you've made to me and to other editors. Hbackman 02:36, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

OK I lied then get forked for dinner maybe? 0waldo 02:38, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Look, let's solve this problem right now: contact user JeffQ and he will vouch for me all day long !!! 0waldo 02:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Vouch for you in what way? Hbackman 02:46, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

quit being so freekin dullheaded ok? 0waldo just "now". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.193.87.52 (talk • contribs)

GADZOOKES GIRL, do I have to spell it out in block letters for you? Duuuuh!? 0Waldo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.193.87.52 (talk • contribs)

If you mean vouch for you in the sense that this user will support your inclusion of the link in IP address, I don't understand why you can't just make an argument for it yourself. If you mean vouch for you in the sense that this user will tell me you're a great person, well, I prefer to judge people by my own interactions with them. I'm not sure what sense you intend to use, and I'm not sure why his vouching for you would make a difference either way. Hbackman

OK, maybe I was a little too harsh the other night: YOU ARE SO STUPID AND MINDLESS, NOT ONLY THAT YOU ARE AN OVER-ZEALOUS TROUBLE MAKER THAT GOES AROUND CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK WHEN IN REALITY IT IS A STAINLESS-STEEL SKILLET. :) ok, really I'm just kidding, but not really. I was trying to see your about me but all of your images are not spaced properly on your user page and I can't see them and I don't think that it is really my computer. 0waldo 00:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

If I can presume to tell you about yourself... ;) No, really, though, you seem like an intelligent person who's capable of expressing himself well; it just seems to me as though when you get frustrated you start writing insulting things. If you could stop, take a breath, and get yourself under control again before you type, you'd probably get along better with people on Wikipedia. That's just my two cents; take it or leave it, but please don't be offended -- it really is well-intentioned.

I had trouble aligning the userboxes; I can really only test them with my computer, on which they work. Sorry if you can't see all of them, but I don't really know how to fix it. :(

Hbackman 00:55, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

My are we not dual role here, yes? 0waldo. Combination arson and firewoman I see... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.214.176.87 (talk • contribs)

You've developed a habit of making apparent non sequiturs in response to my comments, I see... Hbackman 03:58, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi! 0waldo 00:42, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello! ;) Hbackman 21:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Rationality

Hey, I just noticed the comment on your user page about having too much faith in rationality. I so feel the same way - its like, I seriously believe that if two people have some disagreement they should be willing to sit down and rationally discuss the issues and come to some agreement, because given certain starting premises you are logically compelled toward certain conclusions. No matter how many times it doesn't turn out that way, I am still immediately inclined to try to get people to look at things rationally... Just thought I'd drop you a note to let you know you're not alone. -Seth Mahoney 02:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Much appreciated. :) Hbackman 04:05, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

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Try being a little more responsible with your reverts.

Regarding your revert. he has no rights when he's not even a user, check his contribs. Wikipedia is not geocities. Be more careful next time.--Gmaxwell 07:33, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. You have to admit, though, that it's an unusual situation and an honest mistake. Please be a little nicer about pointing out when people screw up. I really appreciate the heads-up, but I don't appreciate the way in which it was presented -- I consider myself a very responsible editor, and a mess-up here or there doesn't mean that I'm irresponsible. Hbackman 07:37, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for biting your head off. I'm going through dozens of these tonight (most are obvious copyvios and being deleted rather than blanked), so I was dreading someone deciding that users with no edits had rights to userpages. :) I kinda assumed you'd noticed, although my snap left you that out. Again, sorry. --Gmaxwell 07:42, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

S'ok. I've done the same sort of thing to other people when I've been doing too much editing/vandalism patrol in one day, so I completely understand where you're coming from. Sometimes we all have to try to be a little more aware of when we're prone to being unnecessarily sharp, I guess. :) Sorry to be a bother. Hbackman 07:46, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

John Steven Lasher afd

Hi, I'd like to ask if you'd perhaps reconsider this AfD on the basis of some new points I've brought up. Thanks! Girolamo Savonarola 16:15, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Taylor Lea Thomas

Just wanted to drop you a note to let you know that the article on Taylor Lea Thomas has undergone significant changes and will continue to improve with time. I appreciate you reading the article in the first place. We are trying all we can to make the article better suited for Wikipedia because Ms. Thomas has accomplished a lot and has received many awards and press for it and therefore, appropriate for this medium. I hope that you will soon see this for yourself and opt instead to keep the article. Thank you kindly. Peter Sanders 14:15, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I actually didn't put a vote in either way at the deletion discussion; just noted that you'd removed the {{afd}} tag (and asked you on your page to refrain from doing so until the discussion was complete). Thanks for putting a note up here anyway. Hbackman 20:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

0waldo

I've filed a report about him and his various sockpuppets here.

Feel free to add any info that you feel I may have missed.

Thanks - and also thanks for your help. — File:Ottawa flag.png nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 04:56, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Hbackman 04:57, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Anytime. Blocked for 96 hours as per Shanel at WP:AN. — File:Ottawa flag.png nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 05:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

*giggle* — File:Ottawa flag.png nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 05:44, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

LOL. Don't worry; I only use my swords on people who are wearing the proper protective gear. ;) Hbackman 05:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

from Wikilovr

If you so desire, go right ahead. Wikilovr 15:31, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I honestly don't feel like it's worth it. I do believe that you are a sock puppet, given your edit history and the other user's. You simply seemed so offended by the suggestion that I thought I'd give you a chance to clear your name if you wanted to do so. If you don't care much either, as it appears you don't, well, then... *shrugs* Hbackman 21:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Speedy template of possible interest

{{db-band}} saves time and effort! Regards. - Eagle^talk 01:07, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Cool! Thanks for the heads-up. :) Hbackman 01:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

ranking on stanford/chicago

you are right, I was wrong. ranking should not be in EITHER article.128.12.175.44 20:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I disagree that the rankings absolutely don't belong, but that's a different matter. Sorry for being a bit snappish about it, by the way. I'm running on too little sleep right now. Hbackman 03:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

OK

I'll try to do better OK? 0waldo 22:52, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good; please do. :) Thanks. Hbackman 22:54, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Did you like my picture? 0waldo 22:58, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I was impressed. I'd seen your other pictures before you took them off of your user page. You seem to be a pretty talented painter. Hbackman 23:00, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

So you really like them ok then? I love to do it, I have a digitizer tablet and just do it all I can I have the old version of Corel phjoto paint version 8 but I tried version 10 but I dont like it that much. Go to my web page today and see the real picture I did ok? It's one inch square but look at the 1200 pixel version; it's bigger that way. 0waldo 23:06, 25 March 2006 (UTC) And I forgot to tell you if you want to set the picture as wallpaper you have to let pop-ups in so you can see the picture or have sun java loaded. 0waldo 23:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

From Sanka123

It's my talk page I can do whatever the heck I want with it. However if you keep defacing my talk page I will try my damnedest to get you banned. _Sanka 123_

You can go ahead and do that. You will be blocked for vandalism (repeated blanking of warnings from your talk page, which is not allowed according to Wikipedia policy), and I will either not be given any mention or I will be thanked for fighting said vandalism. That's the way it works around here -- you blank a talk page full of warnings, you are disciplined. Please learn what the rules are before threatening to bring consequences down on someone's head for doing the correct thing. Hbackman 23:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

What correct Thing. You are a vandal plan and simple _Sanka123_

No, I'm following Wikipedia policy. The warning that I gave you (twice) about removing warnings from your talk page is an official warning. You may not remove warnings from your talk page. WP:VAND says, Removing warnings, whether for vandalism or other forms of prohibited/discouraged behavior, from one's talk page is also considered vandalism. Therefore, reinstating those warnings, as I did, is fighting vandalism, not committing it. Please familarize yourself with how this site works before making accusations. Hbackman 18:21, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I think the question that needs to be asked is how familar are you with the policies. Please recall the following Policy. "We have a clear policy on Wikipedia of no personal attacks, and harassing other contributors is not allowed." Your conduct throughout this who situatuion has been nothing less then harassment. Please think about this Hbackman and expect me to take this up with your superiors. —This unsigned comment was added by 207.44.237.168 (talk • contribs) .

Giving you appropriate vandalism warnings is not harassment. Go ahead and take it up with admins if you want to, but I'm telling you that a) they've seen this before, and b) they will tell you that I acted appropriately. Maybe if you hear it from them, though, you'll actually believe it. Hbackman 20:28, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

None of that matters. Herassment trump your "so called" vandelism warnings. —This unsigned comment was added by 207.44.237.168 (talk • contribs) .

Could you please explain how I have been harassing you? My only interactions with you have been warnings that what you were doing was considered vandalism and could get you blocked, then talk page discussions such as this one on which I'm trying to civilly and logically explain that what you were doing was indeed vandalism. Hbackman 20:45, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Another thing which you aren't considering is the 3RR which I am sure you violated regarding my Talk Page. —This unsigned comment was added by 207.44.237.168 (talk • contribs) .

I'm well aware of the rule, but 3RR doesn't apply in reverting vandalism, which is what I was doing. By the way, please stop editing the signatures of your earlier comments to say that the IP from which you are editing is something other than 207.44.237.168. Hbackman 21:13, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my bots talk page, thats the one page it likely should watch but doesn't (however ironic that may be), again, thanks! -- Tawker 23:57, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

No prob. :) Hbackman 23:59, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

0waldo

It was for the image he uploaded, not for anything he wrote. I was unaware of his posting to Jimbo's talk page. I saw the image he uploaded, noted that he'd been blocked previously and determined it was probably intended for trollish purposes. I've been contacted via IRC and already unblocked him. We'll see how it goes. — Mar. 26, '06 [01:56] <freakofnur_xture|talk>

He'll probably upload it again. I'll leave it up to somebody else. — Mar. 26, '06 [01:58] <freakofnur_xture|talk>

Okay, thanks. 0waldo has had some problematic behavior in the past, but he's promised to start afresh, and I've got high hopes that he'll behave himself from now on and become a productive Wikipedian. Hbackman 02:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

A barnstar!

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For having infinitely better interpersonal skills than I, basically you know why this is awarded. For something I wish I could do myself. — nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 05:14, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Awww... my very first barnstar! *blush* I was about to go to bed when I saw this, and now I know I'll have happy dreams. :) Thanks so much. I'm really glad that things worked out. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that they keep going okay. Hbackman 05:23, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'll be keeping my hopes positive. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 05:53, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Jslasher

Do you honestly think I care one bit about your comments?--Jslasher 06:02, 26 March 2006 (UTC) J S Lasher.

No, I don't. But I just couldn't read your diatribe without responding. People with egos usually don't do so well around here; if you want to stick around, you should realize that (sorry) you aren't as important as you think you are. Once you do, you'll start interacting with people in a more respectful manner, and you'll be treated with greater respect in return. Hbackman 18:24, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Even though this is not my talk page, I remind you to be civil when dealing with your fellow Wikipedians and don't resort to personal attacks. Keep a cool head and be rational. Negativity only hurts the community and the project and does not effectively get your point across. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 07:44, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Eh, I'll admit that my response to his comment on the AfD for the article about him was mildly sarcastic. I'm not wholly surprised that he lashed out. Hbackman 18:24, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh and another Thing

(italicized text copied from another talk page -- Hbackman 01:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC))

Read the rules of semi-protection.... violating the rule aren't we Samuel

"Talk pages and user talk pages are not protected as a rule" from the semi protection page. _Sanka123_

:Talk pages are regularly protected when the blocked person to whom the talk page refers continues to blank it, against Wikipedia policy. It's clear that you haven't been around long enough to figure out how things are done here. Why don't you learn the ropes here (how to get along with people, what's considered acceptable behavior and what isn't) before calling people out on policy? Also, kind of hypocritical to say someone's violating policy when you're dishonestly getting around your block, which is also against policy. Hbackman 01:33, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I am only using a proxy because I am unable to defend myself from your attacks while you have me blocked. I am evening the playing field which was skewed in your favor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.44.237.168 (talk • contribs)

How am I attacking you? Note my previous comment as to the only ways in which I've been interacting with you, none of which are attacks. Hbackman 01:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks from 0waldo !

Thanks and maybe someone will listen to me - I can tell usually when something is hard to understand... Did you like the caricature I did of Jimbo Waales!

• My latest work (as of 3/25/2006) Jimbo Wales as party boss
  My latest work (as of 3/25/2006) Jimbo Wales as party boss

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 0waldo (talk • contribs)

I liked it. You have impressive photomanip skillz. ;) Hbackman 01:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I think is so cool! I suppose the real test is if Jimbo sees and and likes it yes? 0waldo 02:15, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I think so. Good luck. ;) Hbackman 02:16, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

If you want I will do one of you ;) hee-hawww! send me a pic ;) 0waldo 02:52, 27 March 2006 (UTC) are you brave enough?

LOL, if only I had pics of me on my computer... lots of pictures of other stuff but none of me. Maybe if I get one on here sometime... :) Hbackman 02:53, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I found one on the internet!!! 0waldo 02:58, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Really? ...oh -- yeah. Took me a minute to think of where you might've found that. If you're going to use it, I'd appreciate it if you could do something to it such that my face isn't easily recognizable. But you can manipulate it if you want. :) Hbackman 03:02, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Just kidding - ha! 0waldo 03:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC) But is there really one out there? If I find it NO one will ever guess unless they knew you already!

LOL

Yes, there's probably one out there... too busy to go look for it right now and see if it is where I think it is... and no, I'm not going to tell you where. ;) (If it's up it'd be in an obscure place, and telling you how/where to find it would reveal more personal information than I'm comfortable revealing.) You can go on a treasure hunt if you like. ;)

Hbackman 03:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I found one actually. But I'm not going to mention where ;) It was at the first Google hit I clicked. At least I'm pretty sure it's you. — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 04:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, but you know my full name. That makes it too easy. ;) Hbackman 04:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes. ;) It's a good picture, I might add. — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 23:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. *blush* Hbackman 23:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 23:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Steve@apgi.com

You might post that to his/their talk page, since I don't know that they're watching my talkpage. Also, you can see the bio in question on their user page, where I userfied it to. --W.marsh 04:19, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the heads-up. Sorry to use up your talk page space. ;) Hbackman 04:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

hi

hi~~dogblue

Hey!

No problem - Wikipedians look out for one another pretty good I think :-) Cheers! --HappyCamper 23:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

no one looks out for me, i have been threatened multipled times on 3-28-06 (my first day with an account on WIkipedia) for vandalism and other reasons. i am about to lose my priveledge to edit stuf. Dogblue 21:52, 29 March 2006 (UTC)dogblue- 3-29-06

It's not threatening; it's letting you know that what you're doing isn't appreciated by the Wikipedia community. Edits like this and this are not conducive to the creation of a good encyclopedia or the maintenance of a strong community. If you stop making silly or disruptive edits we'll stop warning you and you won't be blocked. Hbackman 21:59, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

dude all i did was write a story on a discussion page, in a new spot.Dogblue 22:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)dogblue

...I don't actually see that edit; could you point me to it? I suspect that you were warned for the edits that I pointed out in the previous comment, though, which were made before you made any edits to a talk page (see your contributions; you made edits to Dog and User:JLaTondre before any talk page edits). Hbackman 22:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for reverting my talk page. :) --Syrthiss 02:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. :) Hbackman 02:11, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

What is wrong with every one

i am probably gonna get a lot of bitchin because of this but, why is it that everyone freaks out over some one screwing around? this is not a very acurate source either. i have found major errors and i know other people who have as well. WHy do you all take this so seroiusly? Is this your life? Is this like your favorite thing to do? What is wrong with all of you?Dogblue 22:24, 29 March 2006 (UTC)dogblue

We want to make it as good as we can. We acknowledge that it's not perfect, but we try to keep the quality as high as possible.

As for why we care... it's a hobby. *shrug* Some people knit, some people play sports, some people do Wikipedia. ;)

Hbackman 22:27, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

If I may interject for a moment, I'll offer my help to teach you 'the ways of the Wiki' if you're would like to know anything at all about how the place works. — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 22:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't bother; s/he's a troll (take a look at a couple of the edits to this page that I've reverted). By the way, Dogblue, you've been reported for trolling/personal attacks and vandalism. Expect a block any time now. Hbackman 22:59, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Bleh @ trolls. — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 23:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I hate it when my shit is deleted

why did you delete my shit i wrote? After all your a fuggin LiberalDogblue 22:50, 29 March 2006 (UTC)dogblue

I deleted it because it was blatant trolling, was homophobic, and otherwise completely disrespectful. Hbackman 22:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

i dont care

i dont fucking care if you have reported me!!! i will start a new account. see if i care. your still a fucking asshole!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dogblue (talk • contribs) 15:04, 29 March 2006

Hey, if you're nice to me, I'll be nice to you. If you make homophobic and other offensive/insulting comments on my user and talk pages, with the clear intent of pissing me off, I will warn you and then report you as a vandal. Hbackman 23:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

i am not blocked

hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dogblue (talk • contribs)

Nope, not yet. These things do take a little time; we have to be patient. Hbackman 23:08, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

wait, have you reported be so that i am blocked?Dogblue 23:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)dogblue

I've reported you. When an admin gets around to it, you will be blocked. Hbackman 23:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

ok

i am NOT trying to piss you off ,but dont you find that touching another women is slightly disgusting. with all due respect, Dogblue 23:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)dogblue

Obviously, if I say I'm bi on my user page, I don't. And what, exactly, could you be trying to accomplish with that comment other than to insult me or upset me, hmm? Hbackman 23:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Stop the homophobic comments immediately. Everyone is entitled to their preference, whether or not you agree with it is quite beside the point. — natha(?)nrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 23:19, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I just wanted to say thanks for the good catch on Epaminondas--I'll have to remember that that ref converter can't handle Greek. I hate when I mess up an edit, and it's a relief that it wasn't around long enough to do any real damage. Keep up the good work! Robth^Talk 00:06, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. :) Hbackman 00:11, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Just a quick note to say thanks for removing the insulting message from a vandal on my user talk page recently. Waggers 12:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I figured that that was the sort of thing you wouldn't want to leave up there. Hbackman 23:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Deleted warnings

Yes, I deleted them on purpose. Having warnings 2-5-8 months old on a dynamic IP's talk page is worse than useless, if it scrolls for more than a page it means that the person using the account to vandalize at any given time is that much less likely to see the most current warning. Typically I erase old warnings if they're so numerous that it's necessary to scroll to see the most recent. Administrators can check block logs if they're curious about an IP's editing history, and, of course, there's always the "history" button. · Katefan0^(scribble)/poll 02:22, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I strongly disagree. We just actually had a conversation about this on the bot discussion page, in relation to a bot that was blanking old IP talk pages with warnings on them. (I can try to find that for you if you like.) For the person delivering a warning, it's important to see that the IP has a long history of vandalism -- for me, that often makes the difference between delivering a {{test1}} or a {{test3}}. Checking the history can get tedious, especially if you don't use an edit summary indicating that you've removed several warnings, and anyway people don't suspect that warnings have been removed from the page, so they aren't going to go check the history.

If I haven't managed to change your mind, how about a compromise at least -- could you archive the pages instead of just deleting the warnings, or add a note that the IP had accumulated a large number of warnings previously and link to the appropriate diff or old version of the page?

Hbackman 02:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Cacycle editor

Hey, does the Cacycle editor work for you? I have copied your monobook.js to mine and it works fine with Mozilla SeaMonkey and FireFox. Cacycle 18:24, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm still not seeing anything new when I edit a page (and I just hard-refreshed again, to be sure). Might operating system make a difference (I don't know if FireFox for Mac is different somehow from FireFox for Windows)? I'm using Windows. Hbackman 18:33, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I am using Windows too, but that shouldn't make a difference. Does any JavaScript on Wikipedia work for you (e.g. the edit toolbar). What is your browser version (Help : About Mozilla FireFox). Open Tools : Java Script Console in your browser, press Clear, and reload an edit page - are there any errror messages? Cacycle 19:40, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I can see the edit toolbar. I also have Lupin's tool in my monobook.js and that works fine. My browser version is 1.0.7. No error messages after hitting Clear in the JavaScript console and reloading this edit page. *shrugs*

Thanks for the troubleshooting help, even if we can't fix this.

Hbackman 21:10, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I have to thank you... It could be a preference setting that is different between us. You could make a screen-shot of the Wikipedia preferences page (disable JavaScript so you get everything on one page, remove private infos, press ALT-PrtScr, paste into Windows-Paint, save as gif) or you could copy the preferences page text, paste it here, and add an x in front of checked boxes. Thanks again for your help, Cacycle 21:32, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

x Enable section editing via [edit] links

Enable section editing by right-clicking on section titles (JavaScript)

Edit pages on double click (JavaScript)

Edit box has full width

x Show edit toolbar (JavaScript)

x Show preview on first edit

x Show preview before edit box

x Add pages I create to my watchlist

x Add pages I edit to my watchlist

Mark all edits minor by default

Use external editor by default

Use external diff by default

Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary

Hbackman 21:37, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Nope :-( Maybe a setting from Preferences : Misc. Cacycle 22:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay. My Misc preferences are:

x Format broken links like this (alternative: like this?).

Justify paragraphs

Auto-number headings

x Show table of contents (for pages with more than 3 headings)

x Disable page caching

x Enable "jump to" accessibility links

Hbackman 22:10, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Woah, hey, all of a sudden it's working! Did you do something, or did my computer/browser suddenly decide to cooperate? ;) Hbackman 22:42, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I've been installing the outdated FireFox version that you are using on my computer and indeed I found some code that this version doesn't like :-) Thanks again for your help. I'm currently working on a new version with a lot more features, so stay tuned :-) Cacycle 22:47, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for my help? Thanks for yours! :) Good luck with the new features. If I can suggest one -- I don't know how easy or hard this is to code, but using the edit summary drop-down box would be easier for me if hitting the up/down arrows on my keyboard let me scroll through the saved edit summaries in there. Thanks again! Hbackman 22:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)