User talk:HarryMaguireistheGOAT

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Josh Yugen

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Josh Yugen, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, HarryMaguireistheGOAT. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template);
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. In future, if someone asks you to create or edit an article, you need to disclose that fact. If you receive any kind of compensation, you really need to disclose that fact. But you also just shouldn't do it; if you know someone personally, it is extremely unlikely you will be able to write neutrally about them. AntiDionysius (talk) 23:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There’s no conflict of interest I’ve tried to be as non-bias as possible and if there’s anything that needs deleting or editing then can you please highlight that for me and I’ll do what is needed HarryMaguireistheGOAT (talk) 23:59, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Being asked to create the article by the person it is about is a conflict of interest. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:14, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You said that what should I do then HarryMaguireistheGOAT (talk) 00:16, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My suggestion would be simply to move on. You can stay on Wikipedia and contribute to the project in other ways if you want, but if this was the sole reason you created an account, then that's that I suppose. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:18, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bit of a stupid suggestion if you ask me since I’m asking what should be done to allow it to be uploaded and you’re just spouting the same nonsense HarryMaguireistheGOAT (talk) 00:22, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't ask "what should be done to allow it to be uploaded" you asked "what should I do". And my suggestion as to what you should do is stop trying to create the article. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:23, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Neek HarryMaguireistheGOAT (talk) 00:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK AntiDionysius (talk) 00:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you're very very committed to this idea, it is not literally against the rules for you to try to rewrite it so it is neutral. So you can do that if you really want. You will need to read the Conflict of Interest guideline and follow everything it says about declaring your COI.

You asked if there’s anything that needs deleting or editing then can you please highlight that for me and I’ll do what is needed, and the issue was that the whole thing needed rewriting. Basically every sentence; that's why it was deleted, because it would have needed to be "fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic". So that would be what would be needed.

And if you do end up writing something promotional again, it'll probably get deleted again. That's why COI editing is so strongly discouraged; last time, you said you were trying to be neutral, and it still came out very promotional.

This is why my advice is "don't bother". AntiDionysius (talk) 00:32, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alright mate HarryMaguireistheGOAT (talk) 00:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

is there a way i can get another person on Wikipedia to create the article so it won't be a conflict of interest HarryMaguireistheGOAT (talk) 00:43, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can ask at Requested Articles but there's no guarantee anyone will take it up. The general view is that if an article subject is notable enough for Wikipedia then someone else, with no COI, will independently decide to write about it eventually. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:50, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll just try and rewrite it and be as neutral as possible, are there certain things I should also avoid talking about on the page as to not seem biased HarryMaguireistheGOAT (talk) 00:53, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would read the Manual of Style article on "words to watch", for tips on specific language to avoid. I would also ensure everything you write is coming from independent, reliable (as defined by Wikipedia) sources. Go see what independent reliable sources say and then try to summarise it all, instead of writing first and then looking for sources to reference. Read good articles on Wikipedia and try to mirror how they talk about their subjects.

Don't forget to read and follow the mandatory COI guidelines. AntiDionysius (talk) 01:01, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

yea ive just submitted it now and ive tried to be as neutral as possible and ive also said what you said, to use other pages as references to how i should word everything. Also I apologise for calling you a neek earlier that wasnt very professional of me HarryMaguireistheGOAT (talk) 01:34, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that, thank you.

You'll need to submit the draft for review by clicking the button on the page at Draft:Josh Yugen; one of the article reviewer volunteers will then look over it and give you feedback ("good, draft accepted" or "xyz needs improving before it can be accepted"). AntiDionysius (talk) 02:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest

There’s no conflict of interest I’ve tried to be as non-bias as possible and if there’s anything that needs deleting or editing then can you please highlight that for me and I’ll do what is needed HarryMaguireistheGOAT (talk) 23:58, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Josh Yugen (December 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by QuantumRealm was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Josh Yugen and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Quantum^Realm (meow🦁 • pawtrack🐾) 05:50, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, HarryMaguireistheGOAT! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Quantum^Realm (meow🦁 • pawtrack🐾) 05:50, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Josh Yugen

Hello, HarryMaguireistheGOAT. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Josh Yugen, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 21:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Josh Yugen

Hello, HarryMaguireistheGOAT. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Josh Yugen".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]