User talk:Edp318
Hello, welcome to wikipedia. I noticed that you have been editing Marge vs. the Monorail and several of your edits have gone against policy.
- The "Satire" section here] is original research, which is against policy. Analysis sections are good, but they have to be backed up by reliable sources. Please note that blogs, youtube, TV.com, IMDB, The Simpsons Archive andNoHomers.net are not reliable.
- In this edit, you did add a source, but it was a non-reliable source, so I reverted it as well.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. -- Scorpion0422 01:19, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't revert all of your edits, I left in some of the specific cultural references. I think you are approaching wikipedia the wrong way, you're adding content that belongs more in essays than encyclopedia articles. Well-written? Yes. Interesting? Yes. But analysis about the show in general doesn't belong in specific episode pages. -- Scorpion0422 00:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Edp318. Let me first say that I value your contributions to Wikipedia and it is always good to see new blood here. Anyhow, I have been following the Marge vs. the Monorail history and have to agree with Scorpion0422 edits. Generally, we don't write about how the Simpsons insert jokes everywhere on single episode pages. An analysis of this would more belong to Recurring jokes in The Simpsons. In the article you have also written stuff like "funny characters and hilarious antics", which is POV and should be avoided or at least quoted. That doesn't belong in article. So, if you want to write an analysis of freeze frame gags and stuff like that, do it in Recurring jokes in The Simpsons, but remember to leave out POV and original research. --Maitch (talk) 01:20, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hi again.
- I apologies for redirecting you to WP:POV, when I should be pointing you towards WP:NPOV, which is an official policy of Wikipedia and one of the three core policies. I would suggest you read it.
- Recurring jokes in The Simpsons could use a section, which in a neutral way discusses freeze frame gags and cultural references. It is better to discuss this issue on a more general level, rather than repeating the same stuff in every single episode article.
- It is true that you can't write about The Flintstones being a recurring joke. You could however start an article called Influences on The Simpsons or something like that. You would of course have to write about other shows than The Flintstones then.
- Another thing is that I think you picked a bad article to do your English assignment. It was already a Good Article (GA), before you started working on it. You did improve it slightly and it can be improved a little bit more, but not much. I would suggest that you try and take an article that is not already a GA and get it up to GA status.
- Any, I hope you won't feel discouraged and will continue to edit Simpsons articles. If you need any help you can always ask me or at The Simpsons WikiProject. --Maitch (talk) 08:23, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- I think it will be hard for Marge vs. the Monorail to become a FA. When Cape Feare became our first episode article to become a FA it was only 14 KB's long. These days we can't get an episode article featured unless it is over 20 KB and Marge vs. the Monorail is currently 12 KB. Marge vs. the Monorail however was one of our early GA's, so you might be able to improve it further.
- The lead needs to be expanded per WP:LEAD to cover the entire article.
- I'm a bit surprised that with two commentary tracks the "Production" section is not very big. If you relisten to those tracks you might be able to add something.
- Add a "Themes" section like in The Joy of Sect.
- Add a "Merchandise" section like in A Streetcar Named Marge.
- I think the reception section could be expanded slightly with more reviews. The section definately needs a Nielsen rating. I can dig up that for you.
- If you do all this you might be able to get it to FA, but I doubt it. --Maitch (talk) 10:23, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think it will be hard for Marge vs. the Monorail to become a FA. When Cape Feare became our first episode article to become a FA it was only 14 KB's long. These days we can't get an episode article featured unless it is over 20 KB and Marge vs. the Monorail is currently 12 KB. Marge vs. the Monorail however was one of our early GA's, so you might be able to improve it further.
- Hi Edp318. Let me first say that I value your contributions to Wikipedia and it is always good to see new blood here. Anyhow, I have been following the Marge vs. the Monorail history and have to agree with Scorpion0422 edits. Generally, we don't write about how the Simpsons insert jokes everywhere on single episode pages. An analysis of this would more belong to Recurring jokes in The Simpsons. In the article you have also written stuff like "funny characters and hilarious antics", which is POV and should be avoided or at least quoted. That doesn't belong in article. So, if you want to write an analysis of freeze frame gags and stuff like that, do it in Recurring jokes in The Simpsons, but remember to leave out POV and original research. --Maitch (talk) 01:20, 28 February 2009 (UTC)