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March 2015

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Visa requirements for Tunisian citizens. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. While edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount and can lead to a block, breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. --Twofortnights (talk) 01:55, 6 March 2015 (UTC) I am dhoosing the most authentic resorces which are the govermental portals of visa which i already gave for Lebanon, Azerbaijan and Belarus and it certifies my changes so why you choose to ignore them too i gave you 24 hours to try to correct them[reply]

The issue is that you are not willing to discuss matters, instead you choose to insult other editors and engage in an edit war. Your edits represent misinterpretation of a pre-arranged visa pick up service offered by some countries as visa on arrival, you also try to enter information on not yet operational services as current - however you are welcome to offer a different view in the talk page and if a consensus is reached such content may be included in the article.--Twofortnights (talk) 00:10, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Look really i do not have time to make editing war, but try only to understand this For Azerbaijan and Belarus yes the visa is required and you can pick it up from the airports. But for Lebanon the visa is on entry and i already gave you the official web site, so i am expecting from you to change it was before and that s good you took off Somalia from the map and you even didn t thank me for the information! Any way you still can not see that Dominica is not in green on the map!!! you tried to change the legend of clear green from VOA and eVisa to only VOA and that s a special legend only for Tunisia while i saw for other countries you didn t make so and this is only to do not make Australia in green. Iran and Bengladesh are VOA but you still do not make them green realy i do not have a lot of time to explain but try to understand and you are welcome to edit in the page of my country and about my passport!!! And if you wanna discuss please be clear and speak case by case you speak very general.

This is not the right place to discuss this, but OK let's just do one example, regarding Lebanon, I edited it to make it clear that the visa on arrival applies only to holders of a pre-arranged approval who are businessmen, bankers, directors and investors ie. it's not a general rule for all Tunisian citizens. That is just an example to show you how you try to enter oversimplified information into that article as you tried to make it look like every Tunisian can get visa on arrival to Lebanon. If Somalia doesn't count as visa on arrival then most certainly Belarus and Azerbaijan don't either.

And you simply act as if all the other errors you tried to enter into the article such as Gabon, Belarus, Azerbaijan etc. did not even happen, but they did, and they are important because they show you don't analyze your additions thoroughly so you enter errors into the article and you stubbornly insist on them going into an edit war.

Dominica is green on the map, I can't help you with that. I can only presume you don't realize there are two countries out there - Dominica and Dominican Republic and they are not the same thing.

And yes I speak very general because you violate general rules such as Wikipedia:Verifiability when you insist on adding something into the article because your friends told you so.--Twofortnights (talk) 14:24, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

IF we do not discuss then we can not solve this matter as i told you i travel to more then 60 countries per year so of course i know where is Dominica and Dominican republic so look the island is one divided in 2 parts at weast Haiti in the east Dominica but if you look to the map there is only the weast part of the Island which is green which is Haiti so come on and try to see it it s located in the south east of Cuba. Well if you read the page that i gave for Lebanon the tunisian citizens need only A round trip non refundable travel ticket.

· A hotel reservation or a clear and complete private address with a telephone number.

· A cash amount equivalent to the sum of two thousand US Dollars or an authentic cheque of the same amount from a renowned bank. you can find it in the page of

Entry Visas / Entry of the citizens of non Gulf Arab countries who are coming for the purpose of tourism

which is the case of Egypt – Sudan – South Sudan – Tunisia – Morocco - Algeria – Libya – Yemen – Somalia – Djibouti – Mauritania – Comoros Islands – Iraq: but only between them for the reasons that you gave if you read well the page and spend 5 more minutes you ll see that s only Iraqi and Yemeni citizens i ll give you the page http://www.general-security.gov.lb/Entry_visa/sube9.aspx so Tunisia is a visa on arrival because visa on arrival generally we need to proove a round trip ticket and money for living so correct it and stop this endless war that you try to create and in which i do not want to be a part and i do not know why till now you try to evitate to add Iran and Bengladesh to the map? and try to stop speaking about my friends i give you the official web sites end this war that you try to create i try to help you that you edit more developped and true informations that s my aim to developp the pages that you are decided to edit and help you

I am saying we shouldn't be discussing this here, not that we shouldn't be discussing it at all. It's not a private conversation, other editors should have a say.

As for Dominica-Dominican Republic, you obviously don't understand the difference because you insist that we paint Dominican Republic green (by saying how only the Haiti on that island is painted green and how the other half ie. Dominican Republic should be green too) while Dominican Republic requires Tunisian citizens to obtain visas in advance! It's Dominica that doesn't require Tunisians to have a visa. And Dominica is a completely different country!

As for Lebanon official up to date information given by the Lebanese authorities to the International Air Transport Association suggest otherwise. Too many countries do not maintain their national websites and leave out of date or in contradiction with each other but that cannot be our concern.

As for Iran it's a country that doesn't publish the visa policy like other countries so it's not always clear what is their policy, they suggest some kind of an electronic code is required but that page on their MFA is under construction. Anyhow, there is a list of countries that are specifically designated as visa on arrival eligible, you can see it here [1] and it doesn't list Tunisia, so to be on the safe side I didn't paint Iran as visa on arrival. As for "Bengladesh" I presume you mean Bangladesh? It doesn't specifically list Tunisia as either visa on arrival eligible nor visa on arrival ineligible, so to be on the safe side I didn't paint Bangladesh as visa on arrival.

Finally I am not the one talking about your friends, your quote is " i am travelling over these countries and i have my diplomate friends there ".--Twofortnights (talk) 19:55, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know why you evitate the truth and do not want to change mind even i gave you the official informations and you try to do not discuss but run away from the real problem and try to read the resources Any way i spoke enough now you saw the resources and i ll gave you a little bit more of time to correct and give the true infos

You wanted to discuss specifics and now when I discuss specifics you suddenly don't want that anymore? Let's hear it, did you find out the difference between Dominica and Dominican Republic so will you stop pestering me to paint Dominican Republic green? As for your "official informations" if you can provide a verifiable source for them I will be happy to take them into account, but so far it's all about how you travel a lot, and how you have friends who are diplomats, but if you'd bother to read the Wikipedia:Verifiability as I am asking you for the third time, maybe you would find out why it can't be used and what is a "Verifiable source". I understand your English is limited but that doesn't mean you should be abusive. That policy was translated to Arabic and French and there is a Simple English version as well, so go ahead and read those.--Twofortnights (talk) 00:12, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh!!! Thank you very much for such respect! But for Lebanon i am trying to discuss and you try to repeat for the 5 th time about my diplomate friends and i never change without giving a source so it is not a reason to do not read the page the specific conditions are for Iraqi and Yemeni citizens! Dominica is not in green in the map and i already explained you where is Dominica so try to understand the Lebanese goverment web page is more trustfull than the visa policy page that you contribute to it stop this war and try only to read the web page and you can even use google translate may be you can get it better and stop this war and stop repeating for the 5th time about my diplomate friends i only möentionned it one time but you repeat it everytime i wish that i arrive to contribute with true infos and help people to get true infos cuz many people are trying to hide again Where is Bengladesh and Iran in the map for the 5th time i wish that you correct that finaly!

All the explanations are for Dominican Republic! Dominica does not share an island with anyone! How can I be more clear about this? Dominica is the second dot from the top in a horizontal row of six dots in the Caribbean beginning with Antigua and Barbuda at the top and ending with Trinidad and Tobago at the bottom. And it IS green on the map. I simply can't help you with this. Not only that you don't know the difference between Dominica and Dominican Republic you are also so that you can't click on those links and find out where they are located, you just repeat over and over again about the other half of the island where Haiti is without realizing that is NOT Dominica, that is the Dominican Republic. Sorry but if you are not willing to learn I can't help you. Just please stop being abusive and engaging in edit wars like before. And as for Iran and "Bengladesh" once you start reading what I write to you you will find out where they are.--Twofortnights (talk) 01:08, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think i am respectfull and i am only contributing for authentic infos in our precious encyclopedia Wikipedia! I do not have any war only truth for people then they ll find the truth and the real informations which they are looking for. It s ok for Dominica good job! Bengladesh, Lebanon and Iran just please add them to the map so it ll be coherent finaly that s good you saw the truth and i was expecting that you thank me i am contributing and all my contributions are based on authentic govermental resorces as everybody can see that and good job will make Wikipedia the best all over the world. Just for your infos you tried to update the visa policy of Burundi but the web site that you gave of the Burundi goverment is under construction and according to IATA citizens from all over the countries still can get a visa in Bujumbura Airport so your update is based on which web site i didn t take it off waiting to call Bujumbura Airport and the ministry of foreign affairs if your infos are true good job if not i will undo that update. AS you see i am not abusive but may be you are and just stop beeing agressive in your answers that s not good to show a better image of contributors in Wikipedia and to let the level of discuss higher.

When was the last time you bothered to click on IATA link for Burundi?--Twofortnights (talk) 11:07, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I consulted it now and look well i will copy past the web site that you gave as a reference is http://www.ambassade-du-burundi.fr/demande-de-visa/ according to it is written in French La page requise n'existe plus only to let you understand THE REQUIRED PAGE DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE. according to IATA Immigration can obtain a visa on arrival at Bujumbura (BJM). correct if i am wrong.

COMMUNIQUE : MINISTERE DE LA SECURITE PUBLIQUE, DIRECTION GENERALE DE LA POLICE NATIONALE, COMISSARIAT GENERAL DE LA POLICE DE L'AIR, DES FRONTIERES ET DES ETRANGERS NOTE CIRCULAIRE DU 17/02/2015: Tout Etranger désirant visiter notre pays doit avoir au préalable un visa d'entrée délivré par les Représentations Diplomatiques et Consulaires du Burundi accréditées à l'extérieur.

The only option left for obtaining a visa on arrival is the pre-obtained "Autorisation d'Entrée", however this existed before as well, it's nothing new, and it's not a visa on arrival if you have to pre-arrange it.

As for IATA it now says in plain English "Visa required.". Before it said visa on arrival in Bujumbura, but that was until a month ago. Why can't you make a simple click and check?--Twofortnights (talk) 12:32, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is what says the ministry of foreign affairs of the mentionned country the link is http://www.diplobdi.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=68&Itemid=78 It s in French it seems that you do not speak it but you can use google translate which helps you cuz they ve the page only in French which is the tongue of diplomacy but you can concentrate on Le visiteur peut obtenir un visa d’entrée à l’aéroport international de Bujumbura ou à un poste frontalier à défaut de l’obtenir dans une ambassade ou un Consulat du Burundi là ou le plus proche. Les modalités sont en cours d’élaboration pour permettre au visiteur de pouvoir faire des demandes de visa sur Internet. De l’aéroport, de la frontière ou de l’ambassade ou d’un consulat, le transit d’entrée, le séjour et la sortie du territoire burundais ou l’établissement sont subordonnés à l’obtention d’un visa. As i told you before the real info will be obtainable from Bujumbura airport or the ministry of foreign affairs all we discuss is a little bit bothering. While you wanna always be up to date and beeing the first to get info it told that they are establishing an evisa system so concentrate on that with may be you can be the first to get the info.

And who do you think Embassy works for if not the Ministry of Foreign Affairs? The Communique is from less than a month ago - the policy was effectively changed on March 1 - [2] - and diplobdi page does not reflect that, however the IATA database has already been updated. So "no visa on arrival" is the latest info, while "visa on arrival" existed for years but was removed in February 2015 - You are being stubborn like with Dominica/Dominican Republic, it's almost impossible to explain to you when you are wrong. You just go on and on.--Twofortnights (talk) 14:44, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Visa requirements for Tunisian citizens. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. While edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount and can lead to a block, breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. TJRC (talk) 03:13, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wish to emphasize above and beyond the standard warning text here: use the article's talk page. Thanks. TJRC (talk) 03:15, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright

You can't simply copy/paste text from any source. It is illegal.--Twofortnights (talk) 23:58, 5 August 2015 (UTC) But you know i have another life then writing in wikipedia any way start to discuss this subject in the talk page that is better then being agressive and starting a war im only trying to give true infos[reply]

I didn't say you were trying to give wrong information but we have to respect copyright. OK? Thanks.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:16, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]