User talk:Clyde H. Mapping/Archive 1

Archive 1

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Editor on Robert Brinsmead

I was about to warn the IP editor that was working on making non-helpful edits on Robert Brinsmead. I think we may have wanted to issue a second, third, or 4th and final warning based on previous warning of March 2023 dating as well. ComplexApe (talk) 01:30, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

The auto-select feature on Twinkle decided to place a level 1 warning for some reason, so you may issue a more severe one if it is warranted (given how the user in question was already warned earlier in the month for disruptive editing). Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 01:37, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I do all my warnings manually until I can get Twinkle. Makes sense though. Thank you for responding with that information. ComplexApe (talk) 01:41, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Perfect. You did that next one wonderfully. Thank you for that. ComplexApe (talk) 02:17, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

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	For your work patrolling the recent changes section! You do some great work. commemorative (talk) 11:33, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi Clyde H. Mapping. After reviewing your request, I have enabled rollback on your account. Please keep the following things in mind while using rollback:

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Jean Pierre Bemba Nationality

Hi, you edited the Jean Pierre Bemba article to describe the subject as simply "Congolese", and cited WP:MOSWikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography. In fact, Congolese is not of itself a nationality - the Republic of Congo is next to to the DRC - and of course it is relevant as per WP:MOS to mention the subject's nationality as he is a politician there. I've reverted. All the best, Emmentalist (talk) 08:54, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Several articles on politicians from the DRC use "Congolese" in reference to nationality despite it being applicable to the RotC as well and vice versa, hence I thought its omission here to be curious. Perhaps wikilinking to the respective country in its mention would help to resolve the confusion, should it really be that significant to otherwise promote rephrasing. The DRC's constitution and nationality law makes mention of "Congolese" as the nationality, so its inclusion is not inappropriate on its own: the only reason I could see warranting its avoidance is that designation being one shared among two states. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 10:12, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Interesting. I think it's best to mention a politician's actual nation state in the lead, though. All the best, Emmentalist (talk) 08:18, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

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Template:Short description architect, curator and scholar

why are you making links to Template:Short description architect, curator and scholar, see Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Short description architect, curator and scholar. 198.102.151.242 (talk) 21:37, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

I did not intend to, my reverting reintroduced the error but it has since been corrected. Note that changes to nationality should be supported by reliable sources, however. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 21:44, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

right, just glad that you decided to go back to my version. 198.102.151.242 (talk) 21:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Seif el shenawy

Yes first of all my name is seif el shenawy not seif shenawy. and my height 187 weight 94 so please add this , also raquet used tecnifibre not 2018 also my coach called mohamed Reda 41.46.154.249 (talk) 14:51, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Per WP:BLPRS, you should include a reliable source cited as a reference in the article to support these changes. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 20:21, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

What is with your hatred of me?

I just don't get why you revert everything I touch.. 96.234.155.195 (talk) 02:30, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Maybe don't vandalize. Roundish ⋆tc) 02:32, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

You are free to provide constructive edits; using articles as a forum is not that and such additions will therefore be swiftly reverted. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 02:43, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Palmwood shipwreck

Hey, thanks for sticking around to revert that repeated vandalism while waiting for an admin to get there to help! Yeoman work! Valereee (talk) 12:28, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

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David Ho & Frederick Kaplan

Hello,

Why are you removing my changes saying they are spam links? I am new to this so please let me know what am I doing wrong. 217.165.4.43 (talk) 07:32, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

English Wikipedia's content guideline regarding external links states that linking to websites outside of the project should not be done in the body of articles. If a link to another website is appropriate to the coverage of the topic, it should be placed in the section marked "External links" at the bottom of the page. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 07:38, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

I did place the external link for Frederick Kaplan in my second edit which you revised as well. Can you provide me a guide or something to help me out to make my changes? 217.165.4.43 (talk) 07:40, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, however in the same edit you also added a link under the "Awards and honors" section, which counts as the article body. I recommend looking over Wikipedia's Manual of Style since it outlines the standards for formatting and adding content, including when and how to use certain links. Essentially, external links may be included in the "External links" section if they provide information relative to the article that cannot otherwise be introduced in a citation or internal link. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 07:47, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Can i reference the external link in Award and honors section? Also, what about the edits that are marked as "Spam Link"? 217.165.4.43 (talk) 07:52, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

It should not be referenced in the "Awards and honors section" for the reasons I already brought up. It was marked as spam because adding external links to the article body is generally not constructive: in this case, if the award in question was notable enough, it should have a wikilink to a Wikipedia article of the same name regarding it, not an outside page serving the same purpose, though this does not apply and therefore, per MOS, it is unlinked. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 08:02, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

For your quick and accurate rollbacks on several Wikipedia pages. turbovalve (talk) 02:38, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello there.

I have looked at your user page and have come to the conclusion that you are pretty cool. I also like History and map-making. May I ask, what is your YouTube channel so I may subscribe? May you have a jolly good day. 142.118.57.56 (talk) 13:33, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

It is the same as my username here. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 02:19, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

(This is my new account) Ah yes. Then I shall Subscribe. Supfaa (talk) 05:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

For some reason it said I was a bot and stopped me from editing, but it was reverted. I have no clue why, as I am not a bot. Supfaa (talk) 04:23, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Where was this? Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 04:24, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

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Supfaa (talk) 04:28, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

IP users cannot issue blocks, that was just vandalism done by adding Template:Uw-botblock to the page. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 04:34, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thank you for blocking that IP. Supfaa (talk) 15:09, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Bad section on immigration in Canada

The information in this section and the citations used are from extremely far right, heavily biased publications and think tanks that use misinformation and misinterpretation of data to promote a xenophobic message, which is not only factually incorrect, but also racist. It does not belong on the page, at all. 2604:3D09:A17F:64C0:CDE4:846C:3D16:87A3 (talk) 03:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC) I will continue to delete this screed if it keeps popping back up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D09:A17F:64C0:CDE4:846C:3D16:87A3 (talk) 03:34, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

For future reference, please include this kind of information in your edit summaries so that editors do not believe you are removing legitimate sources. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 04:59, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

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RIT sport of "Sample preparation and polishing"

That bit you restored in the Rochester Institute of Technology#Athletics ... that's not serious, is it? It looks like a joke (ie, vandalism). Isn't it? Why restore it??

Sample preparation and polishing for research needs is a practiced sport at RIT. Placed in division 3 in the PIS division, they are strongly overqualified for their role on the athletic field in this sport, placing 1st in 9 of the last 8 championships. Working off a full scholarship and drafted first overall into the major league is John Smith. He now practices his skills full time with the Charlotte Hornets (no not that one).

-Kzirkel (talk) 19:47, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

On further observation this appears to be subtle vandalism so I've reinstated the IP's edit. To me, the lack of an edit summary gave off the appearance of disruptive content removal. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 23:51, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Salva

it doesn't matter what 2nd para says, first senetece is the defining one. Explain how it's "unconstructive" 90.131.37.217 (talk)

also what"hidden text" 90.131.37.217 (talk)

this "hidden text" -- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victor_Salva&diff=prev&oldid=1029134278 -- which was added by user:Jorm without any actual consensus, and from then on just enforced? 90.131.37.217 (talk)

Yep agree, this is just Jorm's personal opinion and not an actual guideline --FMSky (talk) 01:19, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

An attempt at consensus was opened several years ago in this discussion which, as of current, has not been resolved. Looking at the edit history prior to that (and since), it appears this particular inclusion in the lead is contentious, so a proper resolution may be advised in preventing future disruption. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 02:04, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

It's not my "personal opinion", and I wasn't the one who added that text in the first place, I just kept re-adding it b/c the visual editor was deleting it. There's a policy someplace about this but I don't care enough anymore to keep having these fights. I invite you to stop mentioning me or pinging me about it. Jorm (talk) 18:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

How Do You Make Maps of House Elections?

I want to make maps of the house elections, but I don't know how to make them from scratch. I only know how to edit the colors after someone makes them. Trajan1 (talk) 16:26, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Truth be told I do not draw .svg maps from scratch either, instead I find a base map from Commons to use (e.g. a blank map of house districts) for adding colors/layers. If you need a specific reference that isn't available, Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps provides suggested resources for mapmaking, including requests. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 00:15, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

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Adrienne Ellis

I have seen Twitter used as a valid reflink before on more than one occasion. This Twitter link is from Ellis' daughter who attests her mother died in 2019. According to WP:RS, "There is an important exception to sourcing statements of fact or opinion: Never use self-published books, zines, websites, webforums, blogs and tweets as a source for material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject of the biographical material" -- however, as Adrienne Ellis is deceased, according to her daughter, who should know ... I submit it's acceptable. 107.123.53.7 (talk) 01:28, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

For BLPs, independent sources are ideal: generally with a notable person's death, there is mention beyond a retrospective tweet. I would consider its replacement with at least one secondary source as I've yet to find any making the same claim. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 01:58, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Stelios Mainas

Hi, could you check out the discussion at Talk:Stelios Mainas § Television table? It seems to be a legitimate content dispute or at least a misunderstanding and I'd like to hear your thoughts on whether there really should be a "television" table on the article or not. — AP 499D25 (talk) 08:51, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Nigerian crisis

Thanks for beating me to that revert. But I am incensed about that user's callous statement. I'd like to seek advice on what should be done about it Borgenland (talk) 09:32, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

I've warned the user twice on their talk page and would report them should they continue being disruptive. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 09:38, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Also messaged them and filed a report now. I'm also beginning to suspect the next account putting Biafra may also be a sockpuppet Borgenland (talk) 09:49, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

August 2023

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on 2023 Nigerien crisis. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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And especially WP:3RR. You've crossed it at the article and you could be blocked by any administrator including me if you continue this. Thanks, Lourdes 10:22, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello! Just to clarify they were the one to first spot the other user’s shenanigans and correcting them based on article consensus. I apologize also for dragging them into this Borgenland (talk) 10:43, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Understood. Crossing WP:3RR is a big no-no. I didn't block Clyde on good faith; but few other administrators will be this easy. Thank you for taking care of this in the future. Lourdes 08:03, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

2023 national elections

Hello! You have made a file "National Elections 2023.svg". Update, please, Ukraine in which elections will not be held because of the war. Thank you! Артём плейбек (talk) 13:51, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

 Done Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 19:31, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

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Charles Harrelson

I see more sources that say he was born 1938, tbh. 2603:8081:7409:DB00:6143:3C78:AAA4:901A (talk) 00:55, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

If so, please cite one of them when editing. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 00:59, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Fentanyl

Thanks for that revert/change - police officer stuff.

Not sure on any alternative spellings - as in the opening para. BeingObjective (talk) 21:38, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Mapping of Khartoum

Thank you so much for your addition of a map for the Battle of Khartoum (2023). I've been trying to find a good map or create one as the article is getting massive and there's few CC photos. If you have any free time, do you mind creating maps for the situation in Khartoum on April 15, 2023 and other periods throughout the battle so the body of the article isn't just a wall of text? Jebiguess (talk) 20:43, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

I will make frames for the other phases, though my main priority is keeping the infobox one up to date. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 21:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Brian Sims

(Redacted)

203.186.128.202 (talk) 09:20, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

This is out of the scope of my practice as a rollbacker and should be brought to administrators if legitimately concerning. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 09:30, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

This is the first Ethiopian civil war, don't make out this didn't happen please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Civil_War Gorgonopsi (talk) 14:16, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

If you can find verifiable media sources labeling the ongoing conflict a civil war then start a move request on the article. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 14:53, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

the wikipedia already calls it a civil war

also https://www.france24.com/en/video/20230816-ethiopia-amhara-conflict-threat-of-civil-war-looms-again-over-northern-ethiopia

https://msmagazine.com/2023/11/25/ethiopia-tigray-women-birth-control-abortion-mental-health-rape/

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/08/29/1196065266/whatever-happened-in-ethiopia-did-the-cease-fire-bring-an-end-to-civilian-suffer

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/ethiopia-just-ended-one-war-is-another-one-beginning-2023-08-08/

alot are calling it a war or sections of it a war, the tigray war being a part of the war. its quite clear cut a civil war and the wikipedia page calls it "Ethiopian Civil War" which i added, 2nd to it, to differentiate it, which you said it was the first ethiopian civil war, which it wasn't Gorgonopsi (talk) 20:46, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

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Map in the wiki page "List of current war zones"

On the map, Russia is not dark red as it should be since it has suffered hundreds of thousands of casualties. It is on the list of major conflicts, but it is colored orange.

I see you are supportive of Ukraine. Can you fix this? 12.1.96.104 (talk) 16:54, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

This is intentional. Countries on the map are colored not by the casualties they incur as combatants in conflicts, but how many casualties they have suffered on their land due to armed conflict. The Russo-Ukrainian War is classified as a major war with the majority of casualties (tens of thousands, accounting for both Ukrainian and Russian combatants) occurring on Ukrainian soil. Comparatively, Ukrainian strikes in Russia have amounted to casualties in the hundreds and hence the country is colored orange. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 21:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Theo Green

I reverted your changes that were noted with MOS:FIRSTBIO. Removing the “Oscar-winning” parts from a first sentence should not be necessary, assuming they really did win an Academy Award. MOS:FIRSTBIO makes this clear in points (4) and (5) about “First Sentence”: “4) One, or possibly more, noteworthy positions, activities, or roles that the person is mainly known for, avoiding subjective or contentious terms.” 5) The main reason the person is notable (key accomplishment, record, etc.)”

And although it is a draft, working towards a proposal for Wikipedia policy, this guideline for Awards makes it clear that the standard of Academy Awards is notable enough that it can be considered a defining achievement for a lead:

Wikipedia:Awards and accolades

“In order to qualify for inclusion in the lead paragraph, the award or accolade must be of sufficient significance that it contributes to the notability of the subject, or would normally be mentioned in even a short biography. The Academy Awards are the canonical example: "Oscar-winning actor" is a common term of art. Some WikiProjects may consider that induction into certain curated halls of fame also qualifies, when this is covered by third-party sources.

I hope you will consider this reversion of your change in good faith, and thank you for your careful years of wikipedia editing. 87.7.254.44 (talk) 19:03, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

List of countries by system of government

Re this edit/revert -- I am not following this at all closely and I make no claim of expertise, but I notice that you are also updating this map, and did so on January 3. I observe that the most recent update to the map changed South Sudan, and that country in particular is colored differently in the map and in the tables in this article; your revert here changed the color of that country in the tables. It would not surprise me if there were other differences. It may be that I've gon crosseyed trying to check this, but I thought I would mention it. Cheers, Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 01:17, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

For states with provisional governments like South Sudan, beige and grey are the colors used on the table and map, respectively. That discrepancy has stood long before my activity on the page – maybe an editor thought black text on grey tables would be too unreadable by comparison? Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 17:52, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Author Emma Holly dies

https://wendythesuperlibrarian.blogspot.com/2022/06/rip-emma-holly.html 172.97.6.186 (talk) 06:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Blogger is not a reliable source. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 10:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

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