User talk:BhagyaMani/Archive 13

Panthera pardus tulliana

Why isn't "Asia Minor leopard" in bold print like the other three common names? And a "the" before the term "Persian leopard" is grammatically correct.2601:CA:4380:3A20:1441:F82F:8557:A213 (talk) 22:48, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See MOS:BOLDALTNAMES. BhagyaMani (talk) 00:33, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Mudumalai National Park

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Your GA nomination of Mudumalai National Park

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Your GA nomination of Mudumalai National Park

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Reptiles

Please, expensive @BhagyaMani do not delete my edits. I edit documented data and know what I am writing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Амангелді Бексұлтан (talk • contribs) 12:47, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you add grammatically incorrect statements + duplicate int links, I do correct these mistakes. – BhagyaMani (talk) 13:10, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

From Caspian Tiger

Hi. I'll quote from the article.

The Caspian tiger was a Panthera tigris tigris population native to eastern Turkey, northern Iran, Mesopotamia, the Caucasus around the Caspian Sea, Central Asia to northern Afghanistan, and the Xinjiang region in western China.

This means it does not represent the whole of Panthera tigris tigris, which is made even clearer by the fact that that taxon has its own article. This article references Caspian tiger as well as other populations of that taxon. I'll revert one last time. Let's not do an edit war.

Thanks. YorkshireExpat (talk) 19:52, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

YOU are the one edit-warring here. As already mentioned on the resp. talk page : this subspecies box is used on ALL pages on tiger populations. – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:48, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I concur, with a single disputed exception, the subspeciesbox is used for populations of felid subspecies. Largely because there is no need to use the manual taxobox. Also, the subspecific status of lack thereof among the tiger populations is not settled. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 22:29, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SilverTiger12 and BhagyaMani: The reason that these changes keep getting reverted is because it is technically incorrect to use a {{subspeciesbox}} as the articles aren't about subspecies, and it possible to make a technically correct taxobox using {{taxobox}}, and this means that, as it stands, all the tiger population pages should be changed. I could use a link to the discussion where you came to the decision to use {{subspeciesbox}} to help understand your rationale. Is it the use of {{taxobox}} that you object to? YorkshireExpat (talk) 22:42, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You do NOT NEED to ping me on my own talk page!

SilverTiger12 is right that the {{subspeciesbox}} conveys the same info + quick overview than the longer {{taxobox}}. And yes: we do indeed use this box in ALL other pages on cat populations.

Just checked : this was your very first contribution to any of the tiger population pages, so your lack of experience is excused. – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:10, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Experience in editing tiger articles is irrelevant as to whether the taxoboxes are correct. The taxoboxes on all the articles about Panthera tigris tigris populations except Caspian tiger are clearly incorrect, since the target of the taxobox is the same for all of them, yet they are discussing different taxonomic units. Using the wrong taxobox has several consequences:

There's no wikilink to the parent taxon of the populations, namely Panthera tigris tigris, which there should be. (Incidentally, this is not a disambiguation page, as the talk page wrongly shows; disambiguation pages cannot have taxoboxes, references, etc.)
The synonyms are incorrectly shown in some cases. Thus at present at Siberian tiger, synonyms are shown as if they were all those of the target of the taxobox, namely Panthera tigris tigris, whereas they actually only apply to Panthera tigris altaica.
The name (title) of the taxobox does not match the target taxon. A taxobox with the name "Siberian tiger" should target the Siberian tiger, but at present it does not; it targets the subspecies of which the Siberian tiger is now regarded as a population or clade.

I've put a version of these comments at Talk:Panthera tigris tigris#Taxoboxes for populations of this subspecies. It would be useful to centralize the discussion there as it applies to all the population articles. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:41, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Siberian tiger edits

Hi BhagyaMani, You have reverted my edits on Siberian tiger three times now, each time without a good reason. I just wonder what is going on? Are you trying to start an edit war? BrightOrion | talk 05:32, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I removed superfluous int links. That's a good reason. And btw : there is only ONE species called tiger. – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:22, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You not only removed the links, you deleted the whole text. Why not just remove the links? The text was valid. About the species, OK, but there are different subspecies. For example, the Sumatran tiger is Panthera tigris sondaica and the Bengal tiger is Panthera tigris tigris. There are dfferent types of tigers, that's the point. And to the casual reader, the map on the Siberian tiger page would suggest it relates to the Siberian tiger alone. BrightOrion | talk 11:01, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to explain me about tiger subspecies. The caption of this map was unambiguous referring to tiger, i.e. the species, but NOT exclusively to Siberian tiger pop. – BhagyaMani (talk) 11:16, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We need to talk about Panthera Blytheae

There was a part in the page about some scientists who question the placement of Panthera Blytheae. I decided to erase that part as i consider it unnecessary. Judging by the its close relationship with the snow leopard (Panthera Uncia) and the fact that its skull has the characteristics that every members of Panthera has, we can easily suggest that Panthera Blytheae is still part of the Panthera genus. So that part of scientists questioning its placement should be erased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 56FireLeafs (talk • contribs) 01:43, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Only because YOU singleton are of the opinion that those are incorrect who question the classification is NOT a sufficient reason to remove a sentence that is referenced with a WP:RS. This is unprofessional. – BhagyaMani (talk) 06:21, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Singleton? hahahaaa!
Singleton:
1) a single item of the kind that you are talking about
2) a person who is not married or in a romantic relationship
3) a person or an animal that is not a twin, etc. BrightOrion | talk 13:13, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

– whatever s/he is, but the only one in this neighbourhood to think that their individual opinion is relevant in an encyclopedia. – BhagyaMani (talk) 13:51, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Amur Leopard IUCN Reference

I see that you set the IUCN reference for the Amur Leopard to a 2016 assessment, when the most recent assessment listed on the website is from 2020. As I'm new to contributing to Wikipedia, could you explain why the out-of-date reference is the correct one? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DirectCherry (talk • contribs) 23:42, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. Of course, the ref to the latest assessment is correct. Somebody had inserted an outdated 2008 assessment the other day. – BhagyaMani (talk) 08:16, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The older reference is the assessment of the subspecies, while the new one is for the species. The new species assessment says the older CR assessment for the subspecies should be retained. Perhaps both should be cited to avoid confusion. — Jts1882 | talk 10:20, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just read the note in the 2020 assessment about the 2008 subspecies assessments : you are right that the subspecies are not mentioned in this 2020 amended version any longer. Whereas the Javan, Sri Lankan and Arabian leopards were re-assessed between 2019 and 2021. What a hodgepodge! – BhagyaMani (talk) 11:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The 2020 assessment has some conflicting statements:

In the taxonomy in detail section: Assessments for five of the subspecies (kotiya, melas, mimr, orientalis and saxicolor) were published in 2008. However, as these have not been reassessed separately as part of the 2015 reassessment of the species as a whole, they are not displayed here, as the information contained in the species account often differs from that in the older subspecies assessments.. So they don't link to these older subspecies assessmnts.
In the population in detail section: several Asian subspecies were assessed as Endangered and Critically Endangered on The IUCN Red List in 2008 and should retain these listings in 2016 based on the following population estimates and a declining trend: Amur Leopard (P. p. orientalis) - Critically Endangered (CR C2a(ii), D): <60 (Jackson and Nowell 2008, Sugimoto et al. 2014, Xiao et al. 2014).
later in the population in detail section: Other subspecies: Leopards of the Arabian Peninsula (P. p. nimr), Java (P. p. melas), and Russian Far-East (P. p. orientalis) continue to require listing as Critically Endangered due to low population numbers and population fragmentation. Although the population of P. p. orientalis may have increased recently, especially on the Chinese side of the border (Xiao et al. 2014), the total population remains <60 individuals.

They seem conflicted. They want to continue to list the Amur leopard as CR, but keep emphasising that it hasn't been reassessed, even though the stated numbers seem clear. — Jts1882 | talk 11:51, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We can keep the ref to the 2008 assessment for now but check in a few months whether this will have been updated as well. These assessments take sooo long to get published as they are reviewed + need to be revised accordingly, and then are re-reviewed .. a process that sometimes take more than a year. – BhagyaMani (talk) 18:02, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As I'm a new contributor to Wikipedia, I wasn't sure if there was a standard for which assessment to use, since the 2008 assessment is the last official assessment of the subspecies, but the most recent species assessment contains a little more info and says to reference the 2008 assessment for more details. What really confused me though, was why the 2008 reference was replaced by a 2016 reference instead of the 2020 reference. As you're more experienced in Wikipedia contributions, I'll let you make the final decision on which is best to include. For the record, I was the one who referenced the 2008 assessment because it just seemed to make sense, but since the 2020 assessment contains a little more info on population increase and references the 2008 assessment, maybe that makes more sense? Appreciate the understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DirectCherry (talk • contribs) 23:57, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever added the 2016 assessment may have copied it from another Wikipedia page and not noted the 2020 update. It's only a minor revision, not a new assessment (the assessment date is 2015).

Another oddity is that you can no longer get to the 2008 subspecies assessment from the 2008 species assessment. The subspecies assessment page is still there but not accessible from other IUCN pages. — Jts1882 | talk 07:59, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is why I assumed the 2008 one was outdated, since the 3 other subspecies assessments are linked. – BhagyaMani (talk) 08:49, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re DirectCherry's question standard for which assessment to use? : the latest one: somebody even programmed a bot to update a few thousand pages with the latest RedList versions. BhagyaMani (talk) 08:49, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Paper

Perhaps you could fit this in. [1] LittleJerry (talk) 20:09, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tell me the title or the just the 1st author. watermark.silverchair links are temporary for just ONE session + has timed out. – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:30, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Habitat Use and Separation between the Giant Panda and the Red Panda" in non-pdf form LittleJerry (talk) 21:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Quick message

Apologies for the edits on the Persian leopard talk page, I was editing my own comments since there was a bit that signed one comment of mine in front of another comment. If I may, may I revert that? I was not attempting vandalism, and I apologize if it seemed that way. Firekong1 (talk) 14:11, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Get familiar with these talk page guidelines : clearly stating Never edit or move someone's comment. In the future think BEFORE you post sth. – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:37, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thank you very much. But I was editing my own comment, not yours or anyone elses'. In any case, am I allowed to edit it? And if not, could you at least edit it? I wish to do so since there was a sinebot in front of another comment of mine, and that I did not phrase my statement correctly. Firekong1 (talk) 16:22, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You DID edit comments by others recently. JUST STOP IT, even your own. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:00, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not really, only mine. But I understand. Though you should know that I'm a bit of a grammar nazi. Firekong1 (talk) 17:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You shouldn't edit other people's messages, with very few exceptions. There is no need to correct spelling errors on talk pages. In general you shouldn't edit your own comment to change the meaning after someone has replied. If you do you should clearly mark it as an edit/update. I can't remember if it was you, but a couple of recent edits were changing the meaning of what other people had said, which was clear disruptive editing. Those were unacceptable. — Jts1882 | talk 18:11, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I see. Thanks for letting me know. I'll make sure next time, and I'll ask for permission from you and other wikipedians as well before I take any action. Firekong1 (talk) 18:37, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bobcat

Hi, is it okay if we can replace the infobox image into a better resolution here [2]? He is willing to change license if its okay to replace. 2001:4455:364:A800:10F4:192F:7D41:B2C (talk) 13:40, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I posted your question on the resp. talk page. – BhagyaMani (talk) 13:57, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bengal tiger

Hi BhagyaMani, why did you revert my edit "and is currently found in four countries." on the Bengal tiger page? That is actually correct. BrightOrion | talk 20:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You should read the ref'ed source: it does NOT support 4 countries. – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:39, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So are you OK if I put that text slightly away from the ref'ed source? BrightOrion | talk 20:42, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What for? Not necessary as countries are ALREADY mentioned with int links in the lead. – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:54, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, because the article doesn't actually mention that the tiger is found in ONLY those countries. I think it would clarify things. BrightOrion | talk 21:00, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you had read the whole article, you would have understood that the Bengal tiger population is clearly restricted to those 4 countries, hence nothing to clarify. – BhagyaMani (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree Mr. BhagyaMani. I don't think many people read the whole article. One sentence near the start of the article would be good. Then people just skimming it for information could know where the tiger is.

"The Bengal tiger is a population of the Panthera tigris tigris subspecies that is native to the Indian subcontinent. It is currently found in four countries."

This is what I propose. 🐅 BrightOrion | talk 21:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mr BhagyaMani, why don't you like my mentioning "four countries"? Is it because you don't recognise, say, Bangladesh as a country? Best regards, as ever, BrightOrion | talk 14:39, 29 January 2022 (UTC) P.S. "BhagyaMani" means "lucky" in Nepali.[reply]

It indeed means good luck

. – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:54, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some text on the tiger's past and present range. DO NOT REVERT THIS without discussing it on my talk page. Thank you. BrightOrion | talk 09:13, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

With less than 10 edits on this page, you are a minor editor and didn't even bother to check already present sources. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:17, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We are all equal on Wikipedia my friend. I shall be seeking a resolution to this because you keep reverting my edits. Where else does it say "four countries" in that article? BrightOrion | talk 10:24, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No one gets to dictate what is added to a page or where it should be discussed. The article talk page is the proper place and the onus is on the person wanting to make a controversial change to get consensus. Moreover your edit introduced inconsistencies into the article as the Bengal tiger is no longer treated as a subspecies by the IUCN Specialist Cat Group, the primary source of taxonomy used in felid articles. It's also sufficient just to say the range of the Bengal tiger is reduced as the article now does. — Jts1882 | talk 10:30, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well he or she reverted my edit twice without any comment so I was starting to get frustrated. I'm asking for common courtesy. Moreover, I added information on its range in the west and Pakistan. If you didn't like the mention of subspecies that could easily be reworded. May I also point out the first sentence says "The Bengal tiger is a population of the Panthera tigris tigris subspecies" so my edit added no new inconsistency. BrightOrion | talk 10:40, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The 4 countries assumption is anyway done now. Just added the overdue record in Tibet. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:33, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What does this comment mean? I don't understand. BrightOrion | talk 10:54, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Luo et al (2004) article mentions six countries for the Bengal tiger, adding western China and western Myanmar. — Jts1882 | talk 10:48, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I learned of this record in Tibet already last year, therefore it was overdue to finally add it to the page. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:50, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so my suggestion is that in the article we state this uncertainty regarding which countries it is actually found in. It's interesting and important. As the article currently stands, it gives information on only four countries (India, Nepal, Bhutan, and Bangladesh), which to my mind suggests it is found only there. BrightOrion | talk 10:52, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re your bragging: in case you think that I shouldn't know what I'm doing, see my contributions to this page in the past 11+ years. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:57, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring

BhagyaMani I am reporting you for edit warring. Is there anything you wish to discuss? BrightOrion (talk) 10:40, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As already stated at Bengal tiger talk page: there is NO basis for reliable tiger population estimate in Tibet, and I also added sources for numbers mentioned in those sources being guesstimates at best, i.e. relying solely on tracks sighted near a few villages and 2 photographs. – BhagyaMani (talk) 12:01, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And my wording in the third paragraph was a guesstimate, paraphrasing the text in the section Tibet, so why delete it? It makes no sense to say "You can't write a number up here, it has to be written down here." It's the same number we are talking about. It's a guesstimate, so I said "about a dozen". That's a rough number. BrightOrion (talk) 12:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1-3 non-residents guesstimated during the 2013-18 survey is NOT a dozen! – BhagyaMani (talk) 12:27, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When I made that edit, the text in Tibet said "A small population of Bengal tigers, estimated at only 8-12 individuals, is found in Medog (Motuo) County, Tibet". It's not the actual number that matters, as long as it matches in both mentions. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bengal_tiger&type=revision&diff=1068925031&oldid=1068889620 BrightOrion (talk) 12:32, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Estimating numbers of rare species.

Given the discussion numbers for the Bengal tiger where it is rare, I thought the following in Caprinae News might be of interest. Sandro Lovari discusses expert versus local knowledge in My reasons for leaving IUCN (p2). — Jts1882 | talk 14:12, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link!!! Lovari indeed got a strong point regarding the changes in threat categories. Perhaps you recall the dispute on the snow leopard assessment a few years ago: one group assessed it as EN, but neglected – intentionally? – published population figures that warranted a VU assessment; and the assessment had to be amended. There is no population estimate using e.g. the spatially explicit capture recapture (SECR) method for any of the small cats or small carnivores, i.e. figures stated in the resp. RLs are "guesses", far from being reliable. – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:55, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to read Rheingantz & Duckworth (2021) re RL criteria. – BhagyaMani (talk) 11:47, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~The link isn't working for me.~~ Needed underscores for spaces (edited). — Jts1882 | talk 17:34, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just was about to corr the link also, but you were just a sec ahead. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Angelfish map

Would you be able to create a range map for queen angelfish based on this? Thanks. LittleJerry (talk) 14:40, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded + added. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:18, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can upload both. I prefer the second one with the dark blue water LittleJerry (talk) 15:50, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Complaint about you at the edit warring noticeboard

Hello BhagyaMani. Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:BhagyaMani reported by User:BrightOrion (Result: ). It appears you are in a revert war on theBengal Tiger article. Please respond and explain how you intend to resolve the dispute. Otherwise, admins may decide that some action is needed. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 19:51, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for closing and referring this to WP:Dispute resolution, EdJohnston! It looks like the dispute is resolved, as meanwhile 2 more editors opposed to BrightOrion's proposal. For the record: BrightOrion made less than 20 edits on the Bengal tiger main page, see here, all in the lead, but without adding a single WP:RS. In contrast, they made 35 edits on 2 talk pages about their edits on this main page + 39 edits complaining at ANI, all of them within 2 days. They were blocked for disruptive editing 3 times in 2021. What does this tell you about their attitude in regards to constructive editing at WP? – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:32, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Elephant range map

Would you be able to make a range map for the elephant species? [3] [4] [5]. I've been trying to get one made. If you do, please color code for the species and provide a color key (some viewers may be color blind). You can just use "extant" and not "possibly extant". Thank you. LittleJerry (talk) 14:45, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See this with legend inside, and also showing country names as they are mentioned in text and imo are relevant. The presently used maps for both African elephants are up to date, but I agree with you that the colors can be reduced to just 2 without loss of info. BhagyaMani (talk) 16:45, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I mean a map which shows the extant ranges for all three species, color coded with a map key, like File:Zebra range.png. LittleJerry (talk) 17:43, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, so all three in one, I understand. Is that right? And with simple grey basemap? With or withOUT displaying ranges for possibly extinct? – BhagyaMani (talk) 19:04, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and do not include possibly extinct. Just extant. How about using the basemap you used for auroch and red panda? LittleJerry (talk) 19:11, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I tested this ↑basemap, but as it has so many shades of greens and other colours, the rather small patches in all of the 3 layers with extant ranges were not well recognisable even if displayed in bright colours. See this with a different 2-coloured basemap. BhagyaMani (talk) 16:09, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see it. LittleJerry (talk) 16:44, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Try again now with % changed to underscores. BhagyaMani (talk) 16:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That looks pretty good. Upload. LittleJerry (talk) 18:11, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As a Map Master, any thoughts on what could be done with taxobox map at Black-footed ferret? — Jts1882 | talk 20:25, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'd make this map much smaller in extent AND also showing the extinct areas in a cross-hatched lighter colour than the resident areas. You want me to do that? – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:57, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think that would be helpful. The current map is useless. — Jts1882 | talk 07:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you upload the elephant map? LittleJerry (talk) 13:04, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes + added. BhagyaMani (talk) 15:05, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Leopards in Caucasus? hm

I was under the impression that P. p. tulliana was still present in small numbers in Southern European Russia, as well as along the Caucasus border with Georgia and Azerbaijan. I found these articles: [6] [7] [8] [9] What do you think? Too outdated? Groovehx (talk) 17:22, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We discussed this a few times already in 2020 (?), as a now blocked user and their sockpuppets added Europe multiple times to Leopard pages, and consensus was to NOT add an int link to Europe. @Chidgk1: do you recall where we discussed this? Most likely at the P. p. tulliana talk page. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:38, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Groovehx thanks for discussion and cites. Sorry cannot remember where discussed before. So long as the "Asia felids" category is on it I don't think it matters that much whether or not "Europe felids" is added in hope there might be some in Europe. If you pushed me I would now lean to adding the category per cites above - not worth spending a lot of time discussing. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:25, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Chidgk1: Kevmin just informed about this open investigation. – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

White-bellied heron

Hello, I'm CrafterNova. These edits were reverted because they did not appear to be constructive. You also have to provide reasonable edit summaries. If you want to practice editing skills, you may create your own sandbox or use the Wikipedia Sandbox. For more details, please see WP:EP, WP:EL, WP:CS, WP:RS, WP:MOS, WP:MOS#Grammar and usage and WP:ES. —CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 07:17, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen you among the top 20 editors on this page in the past 3 years. So tell me what problem you have when I edit converters + refs and remove poorly sourced content + poorly formatted refs. – BhagyaMani (talk) 08:16, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@BhagyaMani: Assuming good faith, I hope you will improve your editing skills. In edit, you removed exact date of a citaton "2014-11-15" to "2014" which is inaccurate. It is better to make it "15 November 2014" and use the date format DD 'month-in-words' YYYY unless mdy format is specified. —CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 14:15, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@CrafterNova: You reverted seven edits without explanation with this edit. It seems a bit strange to be complaining about someone not leaving reasonable edit summaries. — Jts1882 | talk 08:48, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jts1882: User BhagyaMani removed exact date from a citation. Besides complicating some wording, I believe they still need to practice on their editing skills. —CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 13:54, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images of wildlife in South India

For the past year, I've been based in Chennai, doing mostly nature photography. My Quality Images of Nagarhole Nat'l Park and Mudumalai/wetlands around Chennai/other places in TN. Hope you find some of them useful. --Tagooty (talk) 10:45, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link, Tagooty! Nice photo collection! I recognise a few used in Mudumalai NP page. BhagyaMani (talk) 19:07, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Add on Tiger articles

Hi @BhagyaMani:, what do you think that you add this recent news about the Populations, Conservation and habitat of tigers in its articles, as follows:

1- Siberian tiger article

Please add this news that says the Population in Northeast China is 55.

2- articles Tiger

Based on the population in Northeast China and the population in Tibet (which is part of China), please mention in the countries table the wild tiger populations, the population of tigers in China is 63-69.

3- Indochinese tiger article

There is news of its extinction in Laos according to this source. Even the source in which I mentioned that the number of tigers in the country is 14, when I visited the source and found in it that it mentioned that tigers became extinct in Laos, it seems that the numbers included the first years of research only, unfortunately.

There is news of its extinction in Vietnam as well (note: even if the tiger is still present in Laos and Vietnam and has not become extinct, there is definitely only a few left. So I suggest that your addition be as follows: the numbers of tigers in Laos and Vietnam have declined significantly, as according to the global census of tigers In 2016 there were only 2 left in Laos and less than 5 in Vietnam only, later news of its extinction appeared in both countries. Regarding Laos, you attach this source). There is another news about Vietnam that gives a brief history of tigers in the country.

Cambodia: It witnessed the extinction of the tiger in 2007, according to this source, and in 2016 announced a plan to bring it back to the country according to this source.

Myanmar, I have collected four news, please collect them and add a brief summary of each news to the article:

The first: an article on the historical distrubtion of the tiger in Myanmar and it is mentioned in the news that there are two Subspecies of tigers in the country, the Bengal tiger and Indochinese tiger, and that the river Irrawaddy is what separates them.

the second: that Most of country's tiger habitat 'too dangerous and to surveys', and it also mentions that the Bengal tigers live in Myanmar in addition to the Indochinese tiger.

The Third: About Cub Sightings.

The Fourth : About latest estimate of their populations in the country is 22, announced on International Tiger Day in 2019 based on trap camera surveys from 2016 to 2018, that this census includes only 8% of the tiger habitat in the country (the reason can be included in the second news that mentions that the habitat of tigers dangerous), so it is likely that the population of tigers in the country is higher. Regarding the last news, there are important notes regarding the census at the end of the news. Please include them in the article, especially noting that the 22 number not only include 8% of the tiger habitat in the country, but also include only adult and sub-adult individuals only, which means that the cubs are not counted.

4- Bengali tiger article

Based on the Myanmar news above, please add to the article that Myanmar is one of the countries in which the Bengal tiger is widespread and that the Irrawaddy River separates its habitat in Myanmar from that of the Indochinese tiger.

Best regards.محمد ماجد السورميري (talk) 20:30, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@BhagyaMani:.محمد ماجد السورميري (talk) 22:52, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mongoose

Hi You reverted my edit as unsourced which is true. It would have been more constructive to add a source as you clearly are expert in these matters, or you could have initially added the 'source needed' template and pinged me. Why did you not correct the following sourced statement which prompted my edit as it is clearly nonsense? "In Sri Lanka, the species is confined to west coast, central hills and western urban centers." While you are at it, why don't you correct the range map which is inaccurate. I am sure you are trying to help, but please try to improve Wikipedia in a constructive manner and not simply revert good faith edits. Charlesjsharp (talk) 21:49, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Map cleanup

Could you remove the roads and city/country names (Nepal is the only country labelled for some reason) from the map? We can just have bounders and water. LittleJerry (talk) 23:24, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is not possible, alas! This is the only available Wikimedia basemap version. There used to be one without labels, but is not available any longer. – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:08, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How about we use File:Ailuridae fulgens distribution map 2017.png for the map but modify it so that the range covers parts of Myanmar and remove the dotted line in India. LittleJerry (talk) 19:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This one would again raise the question about the license for the basemap, which was one reviewer's issue. Wikimedia used to provide a basemap withOUT labels, but can't find it any more, alas; it is apparently not part of the QuickMapServices plugin any longer. See : https://tiles.wmflabs.org/osm/slippymap.html and click on the layer symbol in the right upper corner : the link to the no label map is still there, but .. – BhagyaMani (talk) 19:42, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The uploader sources World Data Base II data and GTOPO30 data for the map. Maybe Buidhe can chime in? LittleJerry (talk) 20:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm out of my depth here except that the source of the basemap should be stated in the image description to avoid licensing questions. (t · c) buidhe 20:45, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I make maps using QGIS, which works with layers, i.e. in this case one base layer plus a layer with the RP data. But QGIS doesn't allow to edit this ↑ png file. – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:24, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since the Wikimedia NO LABEL layer keeps showing a png referring to @TheDJ: can you help? – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:28, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know how to fix File:Duisburg 20170701 MAP 3123.jpg so that the leaf blur in the foreground isn't as distracting? LittleJerry (talk) 18:15, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I take it that you mean the bright green blotch on the tree trunk? Or also the opaque green on its right front leg? I'll check with friends whether it is possible to touch this up. – BhagyaMani (talk) 18:51, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, both. LittleJerry (talk) 19:19, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re the cladograms : since the table layout required scrolling to the left on small screens, I discussed the layout with Jts1882. Now that I inserted all three into a clade gallery, they are still side by side on wide screens, but wrap below each other on smaller screens; i.e. depending on zoom level either 3 below each other, or two side by side + the 3rd below. I think we can remove the repeated small images in the 2nd + 3rd cladogram. What do you think? – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:14, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Serval

Thoughts on this [10] as a lead image at the article? 2001:4455:30B:6C00:9C29:F023:437B:8AA3 (talk) 10:53, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since this was taken in a zoo, I much prefer the present one taken in the WILD. – BhagyaMani (talk) 11:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear BhagyaMani!

Dear BhapyaMani, please stop deleting my edits, I provided the link. If you have arguments and links on the opposite side, please send it to me too, and I will stop editing back — Preceding unsigned comment added by Амангелді Бексұлтан (talk • contribs) 11:33, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

From Amangeldy Beksultan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Амангелді Бексұлтан (talk • contribs) 11:35, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As already mentioned in edit summaries : your changes are poorly written and poorly sourced. See reliable sources and also WP:BRD. Take it to the King cobra talk page, not my talk page. – BhagyaMani (talk) 11:52, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tiger synonyms

Please could you provide an explanation for reverting my change at Tiger. The synonyms I have provided were correctly formatted, and referenced from, what I consider to be, a reputable source. The previous synonyms presented were not referenced, and you did not provide a reference for the change you made, which I have since provided for you, albeit from a potentially less reputable source (but not unreputable). YorkshireExpat (talk) 19:18, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As ALREADY explained in my 2 edit summaries : a SUBspecific name, i.e. a TRInomial is NOT a synonym for a BInomial name, i.e. a name of a species. Get familiar with the meaning of terms BEFORE you use them. – BhagyaMani (talk) 04:54, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's completely possible for a trinomial to be a synonym of a binomial. Please take a look here, especially at on page 4 at section II.2.A(b). Subspecies Names. YorkshireExpat (talk) 09:38, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All the names in your list represent SUBspecies names. They do not meet criterion 1 of this section II.2.A(b) : ... representative of the subject species NOR criterion 2 : ... junior synonym of a recognized subspecies. And they are listed already on the relevant pages about tiger subspecies and populations. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Couple of points here. Not all the synonyms in my list were trinomials, some were binomials; please look again. Also I think the trinomials in the list are junior synonyms of a recognized subspecies; for example Panthera tigris coreensis is what the Siberian Tiger was known as, which is now a population of Panthera tigris tigris, therefore Panthera tigris coreensis is a junior synonyms of a recognised subspecies. Also that is not covered at Siberian Tiger or Panthera tigris tigris.

Why are you so against this? What's the problem with collating all the information in one place? YorkshireExpat (talk) 15:19, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because what you are doing is listing the junior synonyms of subspecies, as junior synonyms of the species. That is incorrect. SilverTiger12 (talk) 22:47, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SilverTiger12: but I really don't think it is. Please read here, page 4 at section II.2.A(b). YorkshireExpat (talk) 07:11, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, see discussion at Talk:Tiger#Tiger synonyms. YorkshireExpat (talk) 11:23, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One suggestion

Nice working with you on red panda. I think you should create a user page. It doesn't have to be much, you could just move your barnstar awards there like I did. A blue linkable user page makes you look more formal and legitimate. LittleJerry (talk) 13:29, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, it's something we agree on :D YorkshireExpat (talk) 15:06, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mandrill range map

File:Mandrill area.png is too zoomed out for a small range. Could you make a range map at is more focused on central Africa? Thanks. LittleJerry (talk) 15:39, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, give me a day. On a blank background like ↑? Or wikimedia map? – BhagyaMani (talk) 15:11, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

wikimedia or perhaps a background like File:Pan troglodytes area.png LittleJerry (talk) 16:58, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zyeVFZ3O1xPxBWkZWtlJnEbVh40OVBeW/view?usp=sharing with wikimedia map as base layer. Let me know what you think about colour of range polygon, and of zoom level : too much or too little? – BhagyaMani (talk) 12:56, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The color is fine, I think we could zoom out an little more so we know we're in west-central Africa. LittleJerry (talk) 13:50, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Then see this : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u7htZQhVQLez1s5DwbucCgTjf0oUB4mH/view?usp=sharing, trying a different colour and zooming out just a little. Or do want to see more of ocean and of Congo Basin? – BhagyaMani (talk) 15:56, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, more of the ocean and Congo basin. LittleJerry (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See same ↑ link : you may have to refresh the link : enough? Which colour do you prefer? – BhagyaMani (talk) 16:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That looks good. Would you be able to add a mini Africa map like in File:Drill range map.svg LittleJerry (talk) 16:56, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

refresh the link : like this ? – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:07, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the change. LittleJerry (talk) 17:14, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Refresh again. – BhagyaMani (talk) 18:38, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect! Upload. LittleJerry (talk) 19:57, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Remove my contributions

Hi @BhagyaMani:, Why did you remove my recent contributions to the article. What is wrong with the content? I attribute all content to reliable sources. 1- The content that Myanmar has both the Bengal tiger and the Indochinese tiger, is supported by a source that is a journal article in a magazine (Cite journal is popular in Wikipedia, so it is considered a reliable source). 2- The content that mentions the depiction of 3 cubs attributed to news (there is the same content in the same article regarding Thailand, so why were these contributions accepted and my contributions removed). 3- The additions you made to estimating the number of tigers in Myanmar with 22 are important additions that contain supplementary information that must be mentioned, including that this census included only adult and semi-adult individuals, meaning that 22 does not include all Myanmar tigers. 4- The content in which it was mentioned that the tiger habitat in Myanmar is dangerous and cannot be surveyed due to the conflicts is an important addition that explains why not all tigers in the country were counted as in the previous content which stated that only 8% of the tiger habitat was included in the census. I think this addition is important and it is supported by a Myanmar's news website (and I think it is considered an acceptable source) 5- The tiger census in Laos and Vietnam is attributed to a reliable source, which is the WWF, which all animal articles cite, and also it is the last official census for the two countries and there is no other census. So I think it is not acceptable to remove such content attributed to a reliable source. 6- The extinction of the tiger in Laos is attributed to an journal article and is therefore attributed to a 100% reliable source and it is not understood why it was removed. 7- The content of its extinction in Vietnam is attributed to a Vietnamese news website, so I think it is acceptable. 8- The last conclusion in which he mentioned that the Indochina tiger has only survived in Myanmar and Thailand is attributed to a reliable source, which is Mongabay which, as mentioned in his article, is one of the best green websites, so it is definitely a reliable source.

So please take back my recent contributions. If the defect of contributions is their length, you can shorten them, and if this is not the place for them, move them to the appropriate place, and if the content violates copyright, you can reformulate it in a way that does not violate copyright. As for removing all of these valuable contributions entirely, even though they are backed up by reliable sources, I do not find it acceptable.محمد ماجد السورميري (talk) 12:01, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You again copy-pasted material from websites. Read WP:COPYVIO. – BhagyaMani (talk) 12:17, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@BhagyaMani: Well, I honestly don't know much about copyright. But as I mentioned to you above: "If the problem is copyright violations, you can modify the format of the content in a way that does not copyright violations." What do you think?.محمد ماجد السورميري (talk) 12:34, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This was already deleted and visibility hidden due to copyright violation a few days ago. Most of this is anyway outdated + irrelevant like no. of stripes; the Indochinese tiger is NOT a subspecies. – BhagyaMani (talk) 13:02, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Leopard lead image

Talk:Leopard#Lead image Here posted a new potential lead image for the leopard article. May be you want to participate. Best,--Altaileopard (talk) 13:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would you consider becoming a New Page Reviewer?

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. (Purge)

Hi BhagyaMani,

I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join the new page reviewing team, and after reviewing your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; the new page reviewing team needs help from experienced users like yourself.

Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision (if it looks daunting, don't worry, most pages are easy to review, and habits are quick to develop). If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR. If you have questions, please feel free to drop a message on my talk page or at the reviewer's discussion board.

Cheers, and hope to see you around, (t · c) buidhe 22:18, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Buidhe: Thanks for your invitation, and sorry for my late reply. I've been busy in real life and will join the team when I have more time again. – BhagyaMani (talk) 05:03, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey no worries: it's entirely voluntary like the rest of Wikipedia (t · c) buidhe 05:17, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. 171.66.135.95 (talk) 12:49, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New quality images of animals in Karnataka and Tamilnadu

Thank you for selecting several of my images for the Mudumalai and other articles. Over the past 1/2 year, I've added a number of Quality Images of birds and mammals in Karnataka and Tamilnadu:
Nagarhole Nat'l Park/Kabini Reservoir, Karnataka -- birds and mammals
Vedanthangal Bird Sanctuary, TN -- birds
Pallikaranai Wetlands, Chennai -- birds (mostly flamingoes)
Muttukadu backwaters, Kovalam, TN -- birds
All my QI of India are here -- covers 8 states from HP to TN
I hope you find some of these useful for illustrating Wiki articles. Tagooty (talk) 10:36, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you ! BhagyaMani (talk) 11:04, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Loxodonta cyclotis

The "Lake Manyara Forest Elephant" is phenotypically a Bush Elephant, and the locale in question (Lake Manyara) is not Ivindo NP in Gabon, it's in Tanzania, which has zero Loxodonta cyclotis. Also, the range map is outdated and doesn't show the IUCN recognized populations, which are present in W-Arly-Pendjari (Benin/Togo/Niger/Burkina Faso) and Western Africa in general (Sierra Leone/Liberia/Guinea-Conakry/Guinea-Bissau/Senegambia/Ivory Coast/Ghana/Nigeria). The previous map (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LoxodontaCyclotisIUCN.svg) has been replaced with the outdated distribution... Please help correct this, thanks. 100.12.240.232 (talk) 17:14, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Next FAC

Would you like to work with me on Ganges river dolphin? LittleJerry (talk) 20:24, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for thinking of me!
Basically yes. But it depends on your time frame. I'm busy with 2 projects in real life at the mo, but can arrange time for the dolphin in ~ Nov-Dec.
I'd however be more interested in overhauling the snow leopard page for GA and then FAC. And you? --

BhagyaMani (talk) 06:48, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Not sure if I want to wait until the end of the year though. As for snow leopard, I personally am not interested in working on a cat article since we already got at least six cat FAs, but snow leopard is still interesting, and I wish you luck on that. Regards. LittleJerry (talk) 18:55, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tiger status

So by your logic, Bengal Tiger, South China Tiger and Sumatran Tiger can get their conservation status...but Indochinese and Malayan Tiger cannot? Even with the ref added to it? This is really stupid. And what does "Test" mean to you? Is this a joke? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.120.173.18 (talk) 23:04, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relevant is the most recent assessment dating 2022 : https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/15955/214862019. Tiger populations are NOT assessed by IUCN assessors, only the species is. – BhagyaMani (talk) 08:30, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Population or subspecies, as long as the animal has a sci-name it has to be bolded. When you mention an animal subspecies or population, you do mention it's sci name with it. It's not like a breed like dogs or horses. Sumatran tiger is literally the only extant animal with that sci name. I see no reason for you to obsess over such a negligible issue. It was hard for me to bolden the sci names when it is linked. There's no rules that states you can't use bolds on populations of subspecies. These populations are still recognized as subspecies in conservation and many important books and articles. The use of bold will only help people see it better and realize what subspecies those animals belong to. Ishan87 (talk) 22:01, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note that a population does NOT have a scientific name. But subspecies is the lowest taxonomic rank that has a scientific name. Try also to comprehend that in the lead those names have usually been bolded that have redirect pages. Whereas the trinomials in the leads of the Bengal tiger, Sumatran tiger, ... pages do NOT redirect to these same pages, but to different ones. – BhagyaMani (talk) 06:55, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Asiatic wildcat

There's a reason why I used question marks in the distribution map instead of polygons: the western distribution area is highly speculative and IUCN doesn't say if the area in Caucasus and Turkey represents Felis lybica lybica, Felis lybica ornata, or both. For that reason, I can't use polygons in Caucasus and Turkey, and I want to follow the same style for the rest of the map too. I don't want to be pushy in advocating for my own work, but I don't think it's fair to reject a map just because it has a different style. User:UtherSRG, who originally removed my map, was content when I added references to the map. --Paranaja (talk) 13:43, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Then you should at least EXPLAIN the meaning of the question marks by adding a legend inside the map. I too made quite a few maps, see e.g. File:Manul distribution2021.png + File:Black-footedFerret distribution.png. – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that question marks are self-explanatory. Also, I prefer not to have a legend with this map, because it would tie the map to only one language. I think I'll just leave things as they are; I will not re-add the map to the article. --Paranaja (talk) 19:47, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lion subspecies redux

Heads up, an IP is re-creating a bunch of the merged former lion subspecies articles (West African lion, Southwest African lion, Southeast African lion, Congo lion, and Transvaal lion so far). I've restored the redirects, but felt that I should notify you given your interest in the topic back during the merge discussions. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 14:54, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. I thought these were deleted long ago and do not have them on my watchlist any more, but will check. – BhagyaMani (talk) 15:50, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, can you plz tell the LittleJerry person to stop removing my edits in the Lion page for no reason? He also removed an entire section full of sources! He's starting an edit war for no reason! Ishan87 (talk) 06:44, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bro Impala is below 190kg, it's only 70kg so I mentioned it separately. That figure is faulty anyway that's why I wanted to change it. Most African antelopes like Topi, blesbok, hartebeest, nyala which avg around 150 kg are among lion prey. Also they take buffalos & eland which are above 600 kg, hence that figure but Jerry was insistent so I had to change it back Ishan87 (talk) 07:05, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm nobody's spokeperson and recommend you discuss edit conflicts on the lion talk page. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:06, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I know but I don't know which admin deals with big cat pages. Tho u r not n admin, since u r a regular to those pages, I thought u should look into it. Sorry if I bothered u. Ishan87 (talk) 01:07, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Status

Eurasian lynx status on the Mongolian Red list EXPLICITLY says "Subspecies in Mongolia :Lynx lynx isabellina". LOOK at the PDF. User:151.43.253.184 (talk) 8:01, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

This is nevertheless a COUNTRY-wide assessment, i.e. about the population in Mongolia only, but not in the other range countries. – BhagyaMani (talk) 06:05, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Then you DIDN'T LOOK at the fact that 79.55. wrote MONGOLIA near the status but UtherSRG didn't see it User:151.43.253.184 (talk) 8:12, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

If the assessment is not across the subspecies' entire range, this info does not belong in the taxobox. Get familiar with the purpose of such a box. – BhagyaMani (talk) 06:16, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The susbspecies entire range is present on regional assessments, it's on the Pakistan Red list of Mammals, Indiam Red list of mammals, Chinese red list of vertebrates and Nepal red list. It is credited as isabellinus on Indian Red list and Pakistan red list as Endangered and Least Concern, while it's credited as just Lynx lynx in Nepal and China as Vulnerable and Endangered. It is also listed as threatened in Kyrgyzsyan. Juts 2 starus of these can be put in the infobox. Here's the links ^[1] ^[2] ^[3] ^[4] ^[5] User:151.43.253.184 (talk) 8:12, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

As BhagyaMani points out, the taxobox is for the entire taxon, not for parts of its population. Using a Conservation section works better for partial status. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:55, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

Balochistan black bear‎

I think it's your turn to fix this. ;) Cheers! - UtherSRG (talk) 13:53, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Will do later today. – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:26, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like others have handled it. I've let the anon know to use a conservation section instead of the taxobox, and pointed them to Bengal tiger for my updates to their edits. I also handled Turkestan lynx. I've reverted all the rest. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:36, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

South Asian river dolphins map

Hello. Could you make a new range map for South Asian river dolphins based on this? The current one is not accurate. Thanks. LittleJerry (talk) 13:01, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ok. do you want to different colours for the Indus and Ganges river dolphin pops? – BhagyaMani (talk) 13:28, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. LittleJerry (talk) 13:29, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Then to which subspecies is the pop in northwestern Indian Punjab assigned, the one in the Beas River? I assume this was historically connected to the Indus pop (?) – BhagyaMani (talk) 13:41, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is the Indus dolphin. LittleJerry (talk) 13:59, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See https://drive.google.com/file/d/1noZPvS90O9sQGONJJoisl3RqMBABBsZy/view?usp=sharing whether this is ok. – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:56, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can add a legend, e.g. placed over the Tibetan Plateau. – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:58, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. The legend is not necessary. LittleJerry (talk) 16:14, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but could you remove the letters? I would rather give the legend in the text box, like it was before. You can't see the words much anyway. LittleJerry (talk) 14:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:48, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SPI

I've initiated an SPI on our new IP "friend". - UtherSRG (talk) 12:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

...for revdel-tagging. I thought we could just leave it for DanCherek to do from the editor's contribs, but since you started I did the rest. Cheers! --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:58, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks but please be more careful

First, thank you for your hard work.

However, I want to say that this [11] was clearly not a test edit. Please be more careful when undoing and calling it a test [12]. 171.66.135.117 (talk) 08:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hippo map

Could you make a new Hippo range map for based on this? Thanks. LittleJerry (talk) 16:01, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can do. – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:09, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, could you zoom out more so we can see the horn of Africa? Make it like the giraffe map. LittleJerry (talk) 12:55, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done BhagyaMani (talk) 13:20, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion of edit

I would like to know why did you reverted all my edits on Koshi Tappu Wildlife reserve although all were genuine and as per source. Neither it was misleading information nor against any personal or organisation. 27.34.12.61 (talk) 11:19, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please read my edit summary : Poorly written + sourced tests. – BhagyaMani (talk) 11:33, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The usual warning

Since you appear to be incapable of understanding anything but the blunt instruments to the head, here's the regulation warning you seem to need every time you stage your appearances - if you start edit-warring without discussion, as you are attempting at Saltwater crocodile, you will be reported. No further warnings. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:33, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Nepal Red List" (PDF).

[2] "Fauna of India" (PDF).

[3] "Red list of China's Vertebrates".

[4] "Pakistan red list" (PDF).

[5] "Kyrgizstan fauna". rmportal.net.

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