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December 2020

44th edition of The Hurricane Herald!

Volume XLIV, Issue 44, December 1, 2020 ←(Previous issues) 41 · 42 · 43 · 44 · 45 → The Hurricane Herald: Happy Thanksgiving Edition! The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from October 5–November 30, 2020. This edition's editors and authors are SMB99thx, Weatherman27, Chicdat, Hurricanehink, Cyclone Toby, Typhoon2013, and ChessEric. Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here.

WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments New articles since the last newsletter include: 1900s North Indian Ocean cyclone seasons 1910s North Indian Ocean cyclone seasons 1920s North Indian Ocean cyclone seasons 1925 Pacific hurricane season 1926 Pacific hurricane season 1927 Pacific hurricane season 1928 Pacific hurricane season 1929 Pacific hurricane season 1930 Pacific hurricane season 1930s North Indian Ocean cyclone seasons 1931 Pacific hurricane season 1932 Pacific hurricane season 1933 Pacific hurricane season 1934 Pacific hurricane season 1935 Pacific hurricane season 1936 Pacific hurricane season 1936 Mid-Atlantic hurricane 1937 Pacific hurricane season 1938 Pacific hurricane season 1940 Pacific hurricane season 1941 Pacific hurricane season 1971 Odisha cyclone (reintroduced, this article survived the merge on the assessment table for years.) Cyclone Ava Cyclone Aivu Cyclone Titli Effects of the 1919 Florida Keys hurricane in Texas Effects of Hurricane Dorian in the Carolinas Hurricane Chris (2018) Hurricanes in Nicaragua List of named storms (B) List of named storms (J) List of named storms (K) List of named storms (S) List of named storms (Q) List of named storms (U) List of named storms (V) List of named storms (W) List of named storms (X) List of named storms (Y) List of South-West Indian Ocean tropical cyclones List of super typhoons List of very strong typhoons List of violent typhoons List of Western Pacific severe tropical storms November 1964 Vietnam floods Tropical cyclones in 2003 Tropical cyclones in 2008 Tropical Storm Brendan (1991) Tropical Storm Nakri (2014) Tropical Storm Usagi (2018) Typhoon Alice (1953) Typhoon Amy (1962) Typhoon Dot (1964) Typhoon Georgia (1959) Typhoon Ida (1945) Typhoon Joan (1959) Typhoon Khanun (2005) Typhoon Lingling (2019) Typhoon Marge (1973) Typhoon Opal (1962) Typhoon Sally (1964) Typhoon Soulik (2018) Typhoon Violet (1961) Typhoon Winnie (1964) New GA's include: Hurricane Barry (2019) Tropical Storm Arthur (2020) Tropical Storm Bertha (2020) Tropical Storm Ewiniar (2018) Typhoon Jebi (2018) Featured Content From October 5 to November 30, two featured articles were promoted: Hurricane Hector (2018) Hurricane Walaka From the Main Page documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from October 5–November 30, 2020 in chronological order. Today's Featured Article/List October 12 - Hurricane Gonzalo November 1 - Typhoon Gay (1989) November 28 - Hurricane Lane (2018) There is currently one featured article candidate: Meteorological history of Hurricane Michael WikiProject To-Do Here are some tasks you can do: Requests: List of named storms from C to H and M to P, List of Eastern Pacific tropical depressions and other intensity lists, Pacific typhoon seasons from 1902 to 1938, Australian region cyclone seasons from 1963 to 1970, South Pacific cyclone seasons from 1958 to 1969, Tropical cyclones in 2002, 1870 Straits of Florida hurricane, 1864 Calcutta cyclone, Hurricanes in Mexico, Tropical cyclone effects by region, more... Citation needed: Make sure articles like for example Pacific hurricane, Tropical cyclones in 2013 and Tropical cyclones in 2007 are cited properly. Cleanup: Tropical cyclones in India, Tropical cyclones in Myanmar, Tropical cyclones in Sri Lanka, List of Texas hurricanes (pre-1900), Typhoon Faxai and other storms in 2019 Pacific typhoon season (and the season article itself), 2020 Pacific typhoon season Expand: Indianola Hurricane of 1886, 1936 Mid-Atlantic hurricane, Seasonal summaries and global condition sections for nearly every tropical cyclones by year articles, Pacific hurricane season timelines and earlier season articles in 1950s, 1941/1942/1943/1944 Pacific typhoon seasons, List of named storms (J)/(K)/(T), Tropical Storm Fay (2008), Typhoon Winnie (1964) Stubs: Typhoon Trix (1952), 1876 Bengal cyclone, 1971 Odisha cyclone, 1978 Sri Lanka cyclone, Typhoon Kathleen (1947), 1900s/1910s/1920s/1930s North Indian Ocean cyclone seasons, 1900s/1920s/1930s Australian region cyclone seasons, more... 20th Anniversary push: some goals for the 20th year of Wikipedia (January 15, 2021!) include the creation or improvement of many other articles listed in the first section on the WPTC talk page. Current assessment table Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics. As of this issue, there are 164 featured articles and 70 featured lists. There are 133 A-class articles, and 1,010 good articles. There are only 71 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 415 C-class articles, 788 start-class articles, and 182 stub-class articles, with 23 lists, and 9 current articles. These figures mean that slightly more than half of the project is rated a GA or better. Typhoon Warren was the 1000th GA in the project. About the assessment scale → Project Goals & Progress The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page. 250 featured pages: 91.2% complete 200 featured articles: 79.5% complete 1500 good articles: 73.1% complete Storms of the month over the last year Month Storm November 2020 Hurricane Iota October 2020 Typhoon Goni (2020) September 2020 Cyclone Ianos August 2020 Hurricane Laura July 2020 Hurricane Isaias June 2020 Tropical Storm Cristobal (2020) May 2020 Cyclone Amphan April 2020 Cyclone Harold March 2020 Cyclone Herold February 2020 Cyclone Damien January 2020 Cyclone Tino December 2019 Cyclone Ambali November 2019 Cyclone Bulbul October 2019 Typhoon Hagibis Storms of the month and other tropical activity for October and November SotM for October: Typhoon Goni / Rolly Typhoon Goni formed from east of The Philippines towards the end of October, just as Typhoon Molave ravaged the country. Taking in the plentiful favorable conditions, Goni, known as Rolly in The Philippines, explosively intensified into a Category-5 equivalent hurricane just three days after it became a tropical depression. An eyewall replacement cycle managed to curb its intensification. Goni finished the cycle a few hours before it made landfall, and explosively intensified again into winds of 195 mph (JTWC) and a pressure of 884 mbar. This allowed it to tie with typhoons Haiyan and Meranti as the strongest typhoon by wind speed. Goni made landfall at peak intensity, killing 25 people and causing US$368 million in damage. SotM for November: Hurricane Iota Hurricane Iota developed in the central Caribbean Sea in mid-November. Like Goni, it explosively intensified, strengthening 120 mph in 48 hours, and deepening 81 mbar in the same amount of time. Iota explosively strengthened late on November 15 and early on November 16, becoming a Category 5 hurricane at 15:00 UTC on the 16th. By the time Iota had achieved C5 intensity, three people were already dead in Colombia due to landslides. As the storm made landfall, and subsequently weakened and dissipated, adding to the destruction from Hurricane Eta. Iota killed at least 61 people. Atlantic - Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota. The active Atlantic hurricane season continued. In early October, Tropical Storm Gamma dissipated over the northern Yucatan and was absorbed by powerful Hurricane Delta, which was the season's third major hurricane. Delta weakened before hitting Quintana Roo, but restrengthened in the Gulf of Mexico, later hitting Louisiana as a low-end Category 2 hurricane in nearly the same location as Hurricane Laura in August. Delta killed six people and left US$4 billion in damage. A few days later, Hurricane Epsilon developed southeast of Bermuda, becoming a major hurricane and brushing the island to the east. Hurricane Zeta followed a similar path as Delta, striking Quintana Roo and later striking southeastern Louisiana as a Category 2 hurricane; it killed 8 people and left U$3 billion in damage. At the end of the month, Hurricane Eta developed, becoming a strong Category 4 hurricane before striking Nicaragua. After killing hundreds of people in Central America, Eta reformed in the northwestern Caribbean. It made another landfall in Cuba, moved over the Florida Keys, and briefly became a hurricane again in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, before weakening and striking Cedar Key, Florida as a tropical storm. In early November, Tropical Storm Theta developed from a non-tropical low and moved across the eastern Atlantic. Eastern Pacific - Tropical Storm Norbert was the basin's only storm in October. It formed southwest of Mexico, though wind shear killed it off within a few days. Norbert then pulled a surprise on meteorologists: it regenerated into a tropical storm again on October 13, although it eventually dying again two days later. In early November, the season's next system, Tropical storm Odalys, formed, which remained weak off southwest Mexico. After an 11-day lull in activity, Tropical Storm Polo southwest of Mexico, which dissipated two days after its formation. Western Pacific - In early October, Typhoon Chan-Hom passed south of Japan and turned to the southeast, dissipating after 12 days. A series of storms affected Vietnam, causing deadly floods that killed over 200 people. In short succession, tropical storms Linfa and Nangka struck the country. Typhoon Saudel moved across the Philippines and later struck Vietnam. Typhoon Molave crossed the central Philippines and later hit Vietnam, killing 71 people. After the powerful Typhoon Goni, Tropical Storm Atsani reached peak intensity southeast of Taiwan before dissipating. In early November, Tropical Storm Etau struck southeastern Vietnam, followed days later by Typhoon Vamco, which crossed the Philippines and hit central Vietnam. 2020 North Indian Ocean cyclone season - after a long hiatus, the season sprang to life with one deep depression and two tropical depressions in October. Deep Depression BOB 02 killed 98 people in Central India, and flooded the city of Hyderabad. The system redeveloped into a depression in the Arabian Sea. Later in the month, a depression struck West Bengal. In November, Cyclone Gati explosively intensified before hitting northeastern Somalia, becoming the strongest tropical cyclone on record there; Gati killed at least eight people after dropping more than a year's worth of rain. Later in the month, Cyclone Nivar struck southeastern India. As the month ended, another depression was developing east of Sri Lanka. 2020–21 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season - The season began in November when Tropical Cyclone Alicia formed in the central Indian Ocean, alongside a tropical depression. 2020–21 Australian region cyclone season - The season also began in November with a tropical low in the central Indian Ocean. Member of the month (edition) – Robloxsupersuperhappyface Robloxsupersuperhappyface joined Wikipedia in July of this year, and has become the most prolific tropical cyclone editor relating to current events, as well as playing an enormous role in creation of newly formed tropical cyclones that eventually became destructive in many regions they are affected in (Hurricane Sally to Gulf Coast of the United States, Typhoon Goni to the Philippines, and Hurricane Iota to Central America respectively - Also, both Goni and Iota are Storms of the Month!). Because of that reason, Robloxsupersuperhappyface's articles are the one of the most viewed tropical cyclone articles in this year - as well as helped us on inviting prospective tropical cyclone editors to this project as they edited Robloxsupersuperhappyface's articles, leading into why we have more than 100 members in this WikiProject leading to this issue. As the result of brilliant Robloxsupersuperhappyface's contributions, we want to give many, many thanks to Super for helping this WikiProject grow so much recently. Happy Thanksgiving! New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter - project membership is over 100 now! More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically in order of which they joined. Funnycomixking (talk · contribs) JackGordean (talk · contribs) (Added to WPTC because of expressing interest directly) ARegularWisconsinite (talk · contribs) CyclonicStormYutu (talk · contribs) ARay10 (talk · contribs) Gex4pls (talk · contribs) Nioni1234 (talk · contribs) HurricaneTracker495 (talk · contribs) Jangmi20 (talk · contribs) (Added to WPTC because of userbox) Dannisom (talk · contribs) (Added to WPTC because of expressing interest directly) Qwerty325 (talk · contribs) Skarmory (talk · contribs) Moline1 (talk · contribs) HurricaneIcy (talk · contribs) Beraniladri19 (talk · contribs) Cristianpogi678 (talk · contribs) Miguel 04012010 (talk · contribs) Cyclonetracker (talk · contribs) Dam222 (talk · contribs) (Added to WPTC because of userbox) Hi 022828 (talk · contribs) Elijahandskip (talk · contribs) (WikiProject Current Events Coordinator!) TovarishhUlyanov (talk · contribs) Animem 1 (talk · contribs) Shift674 (talk · contribs) HurricaneGeek (talk · contribs) ThePelicanThing (talk · contribs) FinnTheHurricaneFanatic (talk · contribs) 8medalkid (talk · contribs) Vida0007 (talk · contribs) TFESS (talk · contribs) KILLERXR (talk · contribs) To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions! Let's talk about that - An opinion piece by Weatherman27 Before I start, I would like to link everyone to a new essay regarding Force Thirteen. Here it is: WP:F13. I recommend users (old and new) to read this to understand why we don't use Force Thirteen as a source, and why it isn't a reliable source. If you want to see what good reliable sources are, read this: WP:WPTC/AS Now, I will get to the main point of this opinion piece. Recently, I have gotten more involved in talk pages, and sharing my ideas and/or my opinions on different issues or ideas that have come up, primarily on 2020 Atlantic hurricane season's talk page. As I have discussed these thoughts and ideas with other editors, I have noticed and experienced some things such as being personally attacked, which has led me to want to reiterated some key points here. Despite the fact that they are mentioned commonly at the top of talk pages, I want to bring these up as it is important to have a good base where people can properly chat and discuss topics in peace. 1. Treat others with respect This one can't be stressed enough. Especially on talk pages, it is a place where you and your peers communicate issues, opinions, or ideas to each-other. This means discussing topics in a kind and adult manner. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing in what somebody may say, but that does not mean that you have the right to put them down for not having similar views. It is simply the Golden Rule. 2. Assume Good faith Along with my first point, I feel this one needs to be brought up. People have different opinions, and that is all right, but just because you may not agree with it or what they say, does not mean that it was not out of good faith. They were most likely voicing what they think on the subject, and that is alright. This also goes for edits. Unless it is pretty obvious that a user as vandalized something, it is always good to assume good faith, as other people might not know the rules as well as a more experienced editor. 3. Avoid Personal attacks This is a very important subject that needs to be remembered not just on talk pages, but on all other parts of Wikipedia as well. On talk pages, discussions can get pretty tense and heated, and I admit that I have gotten into a few of these arguments as well. Despite this, it is never okay to attack someone. As a user who has gotten personally attacked before, I can definitely say that it does not feel good, and usually the person who made the attacked will get warned or blocked, so please be kind and accept what other people have to say, because you will get nowhere by being rude. 4. Come to a consensus (preferably a clear one) On talk pages, whenever there is a discussion regarding something important like the merging of an article, people need to decide what the outcome of something important on a talk page. For example, if there is say, a merge discussion for an article on a tropical cyclone, many people will give their input. Usually, different people will have different views on whether to merge or keep the article. Sometimes, the editor will close the discussion early, but this is usually for unrelated reasons, though it sometimes may be because the editor had a change of mind. Now, if there is support for say a merge of the article, then that will be the consensus and the discussion will be closed and the article merged. This can also happen on the opposite side, if an article is to be kept, the discussion will be closed and article kept. Simply put, it is important to discuss and come to a clear decision if there is a consensus involved, to avoid difficulty with the article or page in the future. These are just a few examples of things that editors of the WPTC need to remember when using talk page discussions. There are plenty of other things not mentioned here that are just as important when it comes to using talk pages. I made this simply to help remind editors the key points when using the discussions, and I hope these were helpful to new users as well as veterans. We need to really get better at staying calm and keeping civil. I have noticed lots of hostility and arguing lately, as well as edit warring and disputes. We need to work this out. We are supposed to work together as WPTC editors, so please fix it. It is sad seeing so many editors getting reported or having to get blocked from this. Once again, keep discussions civil and have a good day. Signing off, 🌀Weatherman27🏈 My experiences as a WikiProject Tropical cyclones member by SMB99thx Hello again, people of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones! In here, I want to tell how my experiences with WikiProject Tropical Cyclones changed my views on WikiProjects, helped me out of trouble and to be able to regain the trust of many people in Wikipedia. When I joined WikiProject Tropical cyclones, it was the second WikiProject I have ever joined. The first WikiProject I have ever joined is WikiProject COVID-19, and the reason why I joined that project is to gain trust of people when I contributed to COVID-19 articles and as well as my fight against an IP editor which turned out to be the LTA named Bedriczwaleta (and has been active much more longer than I thought, since February of last year (!!!!)). I have the same thought process (and combined with my plans of editing old season articles, which is not done yet) when I first joined this WikiProject, but joining the WikiProject Tropical cyclones turned out to be something different. It led me to know what are the purposes of WikiProjects are and in turn led me to join many other WikiProjects since. As such, what made me change my views on WikiProjects during my time as a WikiProject Tropical Cyclones? First of all, I have seen that WikiProject Tropical cyclones members always actively work together to advance project goals, actively participating in discussions and give much-needed advice on new WikiProject Tropical cyclones members (including me). Second, WPTC really cares about our articles (and the assessments) as part of their project goals. 2018 FT project and Meteorological history of Hurricane Dorian (Four Award!) is a prime example of this. Third, we are actively welcoming the new members of this WikiProject and giving these members opportunity to succeed with us by i.e. giving out WikiLove (barnstars). Fourth, we, like WP COVID-19, actively fight against vandals and other LTAs e.g. Sidow........., UnderArmorKid, and Iphonehurricane95. These kinds of activity led me to change my belief on what WikiProjects truly are. You could see this kind of activity on other good WikiProjects like WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors, which I just joined recently on 26 October 2020 as of this newsletter and WikiProject Articles of Creation, which I have interest on joining but I might not be able to. Now, why WikiProject Tropical cyclones brought me out of trouble (and Chicdat, for that matter)? WikiProject Tropical cyclones is generally a content-creating WikiProject. We really care about improving tropical cyclone coverage on Wikipedia. Members of this WikiProject generally encouraged to communicate and discuss (in Wikipedia, in Discord, or in IRC channel), and this is what helped me and Chicdat out from trouble since our discussions from what I have seen is not always administrative. Before I joined WikiProject Tropical cyclones (and when I was still new to WikiProject Tropical cyclones), I have been putting myself on trouble numerous times. I was an ANI regular, and as an ANI regular I detailed about my struggle to deal with the LTA Bedriczwaleta and I'm was also putting up IBAN proposals of User:Jadebenn and User:Moamem as well as User:U1Quattro and User:1292simon. While I have managed to get my proposal succeeded and finally got Bedriczwaleta back on track for a while (what I thought), in August 20 (as I was about to finalize my decision to enter my college I'm currently in right now) I got myself into serious trouble against IP range 185.66.252.0/23 (which is apparently good at programming - I'm not). I tried to get them blocked for PA (calling me a thief who has a black soul), but this is where when I realized that I had to attribute things I copied within Wikipedia and I had to apologize to the user. Since then, I did my best to attribute everything I had copied articles from (Example) and I also realized that ANI is not for me (as I do not want to get into troubles by just being there), which led me to quitting ANI until November of this year when I decided to involve myself on Miggy72 dispute (now banned for sockpuppetry - Miggy72 could have been invited to WPTC if he stopped on insisting to create non-notable topics). After that incident with the IP range 185.66.252.0/23, I have stated that I do not want to get myself into trouble as a presence in ANI. As such, I decided to focus on what I want to do, which is to continue my project of splitting season articles of the yesteryear and began to increasingly involve myself within the project - to look for help and giving the best help that I can do for this WikiProject. The activity from that September led me to become Member of the Month in the previous edition of this newsletter. It was a comeback that I needed, and I want to thank WikiProject Tropical cyclones (especially Hurricanehink) for getting me on this situation. Without their help, I'm not sure if I could be here on this day. Now, for the final question – why this WikiProject helped me (and Chicdat) regain trust of many people in Wikipedia? As I stated before, this WikiProject encourages discussion within other members of this WikiProject, which in turn encourages close involvement in all sides of this WikiProject. Because of this, some people are actually helping us learning policies in Wikipedia as the time goes on, rather than falling in into blocks. As such, with time, I have seen that some admins are open for Chicdat to become a rollbacker, while I got hold on several automated gadgets that was more useful. It appears that these tools are the reason why these people are one of the more trusted people in Wikipedia, which in turn helped me a lot at gaining trust. Someday in the future, I'm looking to become an admin by myself. But that's for the another day. For now, what I'm currently doing now is to work at my craft to eventually prepare for the day when I will seek for adminship in the years ahead. In conclusion, you can see that this WikiProject helped me to regain my standing, alongside Chicdat, Nioni1234, Cristianpogi678, HurricaneTracker495 - and of course - CyclonicallyDeranged! If not for this WikiProject, I don't think they are will be here. Chicdat could have been CIR-blocked like Prahlad balaji and PythonSwarm, Nioni1234 and Cristianpogi678 ending up like Binbin0111 and Miggy72, HurricaneTracker495 would have a trouble establishing himself (or probably will never establish theirselves and stay as an IP) and CyclonicallyDeranged fully driven out from Wikipedia. By the way, to me, both Binbin0111 and Miggy72 are young, but unfortunately they took on the wrong path (Binbin0111 was one of the earliest Force Thirteen insinuators - Binbin0111 is probably the impetus of Force Thirteen policy in this project (as it was made back in 2017), while Miggy72... we know what happened). I feel bad for them, especially Binbin0111. Had Binbin0111 is willing to learn and took steps forward to become productive young editor like Yellow Evan and two other resilient young editors I have mentioned did, Binbin0111 could have been one of the most valuable editors in this project, especially in matters related to Western Pacific basin, and in extension, Vietnam. That's it. That's what I have to say. College is increasingly getting into my feelings right now, but I will do my best as I can coming into December. Sorry if I have a bad English. Thanks for reading this opinion piece! Greetings from Indonesia, SMB99thx my edits! 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@SMB99thx:Thank you Beraniladri19🌀🌀 (talk) 06:47, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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Ok 👍 Beraniladri19🌀🌀 (talk) 02:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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@Beraniladri19: I don't think we've met before, so you must be new to WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. In that case, welcome! I just wanted to discuss further the point I made in a recent edit summary of mine in the 2020–21 Australian region cyclone season article regarding the use of RSMC data in tropical cyclone articles. It is the convention here in the WikiProject to prioritise the use of information provided by official World Meteorological Organisation-designated Regional Specialised Meteorological Centres (RSMCs) over conflicting information from other sources. In the Australian region, the RSMC for the basin is the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM), with two other tropical cyclone warning centres in Jakarta and Port Moresby for small parts of the basin. The Joint Typhoon Warning Center (JTWC) is a branch of the United States Navy which monitors tropical cyclone activity in all basins except for the Atlantic Ocean, and uses the one-minute averaging period for sustained winds. They are an unofficial source of information in all basins; however, since they are the only reliable and consistent source of one-minute sustained wind data for tropical cyclones across the world, we use their data in our articles for this particular purpose (that is, maximum one-minute sustained winds). Since wind gust information is provided by the BOM, this takes precedence over the values reported by the JTWC for the Australian region. I hope this helps clear things up! ChocolateTrain (talk) 06:18, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@ChocolateTrain: Ok I get it, but since you know better since you have edited most of Australian region cyclone season articles. But according my experience that one minute sustained and gust speed section was for JTWC estimates. Beraniladri19🌀🌀 (talk) 06:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@Beraniladri19: We do use the JTWC data for one-minute sustained winds, except in the eastern Pacific basin, for which we obtain the data from the National Hurricane Center. The gusts come from the RSMC though. ChocolateTrain (talk) 06:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Where did the 10-min winds come from? Current outlook does not give any wind speeds. Having the wind gusts and 1-min winds the exact same value of 85km/h is awkward. A current pressure of 991hPa I'm not understanding, because if you're getting it from the weather charts, it currently shows 996hPa.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 08:15, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@CyclonicallyDeranged: That's what I'm trying to explain, but I don't want to argue about this. Beraniladri19🌀🌀 (talk) 08:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

We could argue on that since those info is making the article dodgier...--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 08:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah that would be confusing, because readers would be like one minute sustained winds 45 kn (85 km/h; 50 mph) and gust would be 45 kn (85 km/h; 50 mph) and the readers would think, 'ok so gust and one min sustained wind are same. Beraniladri19🌀🌀 (talk) 09:01, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@CyclonicallyDeranged: See also http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/darwin_MSLP_00z.shtml Dam222 🌋 (talk) 12:00, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@Dam222: That weather chart is older by six hours. It is less current. The weather chart I cited is more current. Don't use the chart you cited.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 13:13, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@CyclonicallyDeranged: Y Ok Dam222 🌋 (talk) 13:18, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@CyclonicallyDeranged: But it has a minimum pressure of 991 and current pressure is 997 Dam222 🌋 (talk) 13:27, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

I know--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 13:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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A beer for you!

Happy Birthday Beraniladri19 HurricaneEdgar talk 07:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@HurricaneEdgar: Thank you!! Beraniladri19🌀🌀 (talk) 08:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy birthday

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@Dam222: Thank you !! You have been such a good friend to me. Sorry for replying late because I was having English tuition. Beraniladri19🌀🌀 (talk) 14:19, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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Use JMA data on season articles

WikiProject Tropical cyclones consensus has determined that data for season articles must come from the Regional Specialized Meteorological Centre for that basin. Your edits (here and here) did not use the correct data sources (which should be the Japan Meteorological Agency, RSMC for the Northwestern Pacific basin), and have been reverted. To keep an international view of things, UTC is also used to determine time. PHT is only ever used when citing PAGASA data (such as in storm signal declarations or landfall announcements), or data that would benefit being in PHT rather than UTC. Please keep in mind to use JMA data on season articles, and to use UTC for time. Thanks. Chlod (say hi!) 04:14, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

@Chlod: Thanks for letting me know Beraniladri19🌀🌀 (talk) 04:21, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

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@HurricaneEdgar: Thank you bro !! And also same to you Beraniladri19🌀🌀 (talk) 13:45, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

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@Diannaa: Ok thanks Beraniladri19🌀🌀 Talk 13:38, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Beraniladri19,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! HurricaneEdgar 17:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you and btw 3 mins to 2021, Cheers Beraniladri19🌀🌀 Talk 18:27, 31 December 2020 (UTC)