User talk:AngelOfSadness/Archive 4

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Happy New Year, AngelOfSadness

Also, I am glad I welcomed you all those months ago: you are an excellent user. :) Best wishes. Acalamari 04:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year to you too. And I'm glad you welcomed me as if I didn't get the welcome I probably would have given up on wikipedia months ago with not knowing what to do :). Cheers AngelOfSadness talk 20:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. :) Yes, I am very impressed by your work here. Best wishes. Acalamari 22:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apology

Yo. Thank you. You words spoke to me. Sorry on what I did1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Criss angel lover1 (talk • contribs) 00:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok apology accepted ;) AngelOfSadness talk 19:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi angel of sadness how are you? i really love ireland =D wish i was there but see ya <3

Ryan Zeron (talk) 06:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)Ryan Revenge[reply]

E-mail

You have one. :) Acalamari 23:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Admin coaching

Hello AngelOfSadness, I promised to coach you, and to have the coaching page ready in a few days, so here it is: User:Acalamari/Admin coaching/AngelOfSadness. I've left questions there for you, and more questions will be probably be provided. :) There is no rush for you to answer them: you may take your time. It will also be a good idea to watchlist this page too. Thanks. :) Acalamari 04:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers. I'm already planning my answers :D AngelOfSadness talk 21:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine! :) Don't rush yourself. :) Acalamari 22:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ohhh does this mean that red link is going to turn blue? ;) And you beat me to the revert on your talk page just now. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 23:35, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah but in about six months time :) AngelOfSadness talk 23:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ohhhh I thought you were shooting for after the holidays. Thanks for the revert btw. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 23:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking that for a few months but then when the time came, I wanted more time. I think it's better this way and actually I think that the link might turn blue in less than four and a half months not six (silly me can't count at half eleven at night :D). And you're welcome. :) AngelOfSadness talk 23:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And Like an Explosion!

I return! How you been? --Diaboli (talk) 06:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure 'tis yourself. I was wondering if you were going to return to these pages. I've been good and luckily the HIM articles haven't gone bad while you were gone. Yourself? AngelOfSadness talk 19:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Decent. More important news, HIM! GRAMMY! YES?! --Diaboli (talk) 09:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ZOMG you know Gaelic >.>?! I would be disgracing my irish ancestors if I didn't force you to teach me =]. --Diaboli (talk) 10:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know I was surprised when the album packaging got nominated as I didn't even know there was such a category to begin with :P. BTW No-one calls it Gaelic, the majority of people who speak it call it Irish :). Also here's your first Irish lesson, a "poem" in my native Irish tongue:

"An bhfuil cead agam dul amach go dti an leithris,
Agus madra rua.
Is maith liom caca milis
Agus Sharon Ni Bheolain.
Ta geansai orm
Ta scamall sa speir
Tabhair dom an caca milis".
For how to pronounce this, watch this. Once you learn this I'll tell you what it means in english :). Have fun now!! AngelOfSadness talk 18:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

you think im that un-educated :p. I know it's referred to as 'Irish'. I also know that its the official language of ireland XD. I just like to be stubborn. --Diaboli (talk) 10:58, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ps. interesting, silent t's and b's. (you see I am amazing at languages and if i really want to learn this i could probably be on a basic...eh...4th grade level within a month or 2. --Diaboli (talk) 11:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure now you'll be wanting a translation to this, eh?

"May I go out to the bathroom,
And fox.
I love cake
And Sharon Ni Bheolain (Irish TV news reporter)
I'm wearing a jumper
There's clouds in the sky
Give me the cake
As you can see the ad makes fun of the fact that this is the level of Irish among most of Irish people and so explains the simplicity of the random phrases that that guy learned when he was in school and his friends said it was a "poem". Now I know tons of real poems and can give an in-depth analysis of each in very complicated fancy Irish yet, for some reason my level of usable Irish is almost non-existant :). But have no fear I did a project full of usable Irish phrases a few years ago and I do not believe I threw it out. AngelOfSadness talk 21:14, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. =) I see he left some choice messages for you, too. Don't be too surprised when he returns. If you're wondering what all this is about, check the history and talk page for Trenton, Ontario. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo. I'm used to the random disruption of IP adresses, even dynamic ones. So I'll be on the look out for when he returns next. But now that more editors are on the list (his attack list) it makes it easier to detect him faster so he'll get blocked faster(I assume if his behaviour continues that path). AngelOfSadness talk 00:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The pattern hasn't changed much. You will notice the pattern very quickly. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:07, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

pic for the tebow article...

can you add this pic to the tim tebow article? i took it, you have my permission to use it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2367/2041724497_f4e54764f3_b.jpg

thanks, -james —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.170.192.218 (talk) 04:04, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You know you can just add it to the article yourself by uploading it once you've created an account. Also adding a picture to an article, usually calls for a discussion on the talkpage if the picture is intended to replace the main picture. But unfortunately I don't have much experience in uploading pictures to wikipedia so it might better asking another editor with more experience in this area or uploading it yourself. All the best. AngelOfSadness talk 19:15, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

sorry about the violations of the wikipedia rules but i'm new

can you please tell me what i have to edit to be able to post this summary to the nirvana page? i just want to make my contribution thanks, jake —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakethepancake 08 (talk • contribs) 00:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which summary are you talking about as the first edit you made was this message and the edits to the Nirvana page following this, deleted most of the existing sourced content. A specific link to one of the edits with the summary would be much appreciated. AngelOfSadness talk 21:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Boris Feldman

A tag has been placed on Boris Feldman requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. AngelOfSadness talk 23:38, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you put this template to my talk page, since I didn't created the article. I think that this is a misuse of templates Macy's 123 ^{(review me)} 03:35, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually you tagged it after it was deleted(which happened at the exact same minute if I remember correctly). I then tagged the article for deletion with Twinkle which automatically sends a template to the person who created the page. By tagging it the same minute it was deleted, you accidentally created the page again which had to be deleted again as all it contained was a tag. AngelOfSadness talk 20:28, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For reverting vandalism on my user page multiple times over the past few months, I award you this barnstar. Thank you very much for your help. AlexiusHoratius (talk) 17:12, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo and cheers for the barnstar :) AngelOfSadness talk 20:29, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't make false accusations against other editors!

You falsely accused me of removing text from the Midori Snyder article. I removed no text or content from the article. I removed a grossly inappropriate prod and a set of maliciously applied tags. I added an internal link showing notability. You returned the prod, which is a violation of WIkipedia rules and without explanation deleted the link I added. Why do you think such behavior is appropriate? The Enchantress Of Florence (talk) 00:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But,in fairness, you did remove text/content/templates from the article without actually addressing any of the issues on the prod template. Adding one wikilink doesn't make the subject of the article anymore notable, notability is added with references to third party independant sources. And it isn't violation of Wikipedia rules re-adding a prod whose issues were not addressed as there is a list of issues that do apply to that article such as unreferenced content, clean up etc. However looking back at the other tags put there on the article, most of them don't apply but if you could, as you seem to know a bit about the subject of the article, fix up the article with sources etc, it would be great. I think I was a little hasty earlier reverting your edit as now I'm thinking the prod may not even be suitable as all the article is lacking is reliable sources. Cheers. AngelOfSadness talk 00:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me. I removed no content from the article. I removed malioiously applied metadata. The article already lists four sources of references. They may not be perfect, but my interest was in removing the malicious attack, not in perfecting footnotes. And wikipedia policies do not allow you to add a prod back just because you don't think I expressed reasons enough to satisfy you. Read the policy. I did. The Enchantress Of Florence (talk) 01:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly I'm in the wrong here. I'm very sorry, I'll strike out that message on your talkpage. AngelOfSadness talk 01:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. These things will happen from time to time. I see no reason to leave this discussion up for others to read and for either of us to be potentially embarassed, and I will shortly remove the comments from my talk page unless you object. Do what you will with mine here, and have a good night. The Enchantress Of Florence (talk) 01:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Ok... Thanks for the help

Steven Hill refers

I added this originally

External links

But placebo48 removed them. Most of the information comes from those three sites, although I combed the 'Net for more information. I also watch MTV.

65.83.231.100 (talk) 17:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok, I was wondering how there was so much content and yet no references so that's why I added the references tag on the article. Keep up the work imroving the article! AngelOfSadness talk 17:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No worries -

- and thanks for the cookie! Haha, that was quite funny though... "how old r u female" - man, if I was you I'd totally get his phone number. What a suave charmer! :-P Take care! Scarian ^{Call me Pat} 21:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He seems like he's very suave especially after doing this. Now that's really how to impress a female :) AngelOfSadness talk 21:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again

Thanks again for the multiple reverts of my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo. The vandal probably didn't think we would be fast enough undoing his edits(I think he/she managed 4/5 per minute) but he/she didn't know I had the rollback button. *starts to trail of point a little -Oh rollback button, how I ponder and your greatness and reversion speed* Wait..Where was I? *shrug shoulders* Oh well! :) AngelOfSadness talk 21:41, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hehehe. =) I notice that his creativity seems to be going down, too. I've thought about semi-protecting my userpage and ending all of this nonsense, but it works so well as a canary. Perhaps on my second anniversary around here I'll semi-protect it for good. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But remember that semi-protecting the page will mean not as many creative nonsense edits. I got my userpage protected back in October mainly because of a dynamic IP vandal that harassed many other editors and decided to put me on his list when I corrected him. Anyway, his edits were pretty much the same thing but I do really miss edits like this from time to time. But your userpage has been soiled many, many times so it may not be such a bad idea :D AngelOfSadness talk 22:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe sometime in the future. =) Though you're right that I will probably miss some of the bizarre edits that end up on my page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On a completely different note, perhaps it's time for you to have more than just the rollback and get the admin tools, too? I noticed that you declined an RfA nomination offer from Nishkid64 back in December. I think you should reconsider and accept a nomination from him. He did mine way back when. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:25, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My God, it took me hours to decide if I should accept or decline that nomination as my mind wouldn't allow me a simple yes or no answer to begin with. And I didn't edit at all during that time, just paced my bedroom listening to the Foo Fighters, loudly. Why the Foo Fighters? I'm not really sure to be honest :). But I think that the end of May/beginning of June is a good time as I'm still currently making very extremely stupid mistakes that I know will come back to haunt me once that red link turns blue. Also the timing will be good then as there will be a lot less distractions in real life, I hope :). I think there are a few people that want to nominate me, I know Nishkid 64 and Acalamari aswell, who welcomed me to the community way back at the beginning of July, and there's a few others, I think, but my mind is blanking now. I'll check the almighty talkpage archives again but I'll have to approach with caution as there's records of both good times and bad times there. AngelOfSadness talk 18:07, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. =) I think you will do fine. Everybody makes mistakes from time to time, but I have confidence in you that you would learn from them and that's the important thing. It is a little scary to have a couple of extra buttons (seeing the delete button on the Main page freaked me out from time to time, though that's been now removed if you've been following things), however, I think you will get used to them. Anyways, I didn't mean to push you or to drag up any bad memories, it was just a suggestion and a sign of support should you do decide to accept a nomination. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, you didn't push me as I don't remember falling over :D. But you also dragged up good memories which outnumbered the bad, which is good :D. And yes I've been following the "Main Page Incident", a whole three minutes that thing was missing for but I think deleting the Sandbox is a smidgen bit worse (I was wondering why Wikipedia wasn't working for me that day now that's the end of that chapter). It's great to know I have your support and I'm very happy that you would trust me with the extra buttons. It means a lot :D AngelOfSadness talk 19:53, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of mistakes, I just made one with the delete button, but I fixed it. I must have cursed myself with that last note to you. It wasn't as big of a mistake as the main page or the sandbox though. ;) I missed both of those incidents, only read about the fallout. I'm glad that the good memories outweighed the bad ones. That's always a good thing. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:07, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How did you manage that? It's like saying "Wow I haven't made any accidental reverts all week!" and suddenly that orange bar shows up and it's time to fear the worst: Either someone says you made a mistake and are very annoyed and demand an apoligy at once or it's an angry vandal. I read about the Main Page incident minutes after it happened. I regret that I hadn't clicked to see the main page during those three minutes, it would have been a sight to see possibly a once in a wiki lifetime deal. :D AngelOfSadness talk 20:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks yet again. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo yet again :). AngelOfSadness talk 21:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism on my talk page

Thanks for doing the reverts there. Cheers. --Sturm 21:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anytime :D AngelOfSadness talk 21:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BRC

You've been invited. GlassCobra 08:04, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- TRANSMISSION ENDS -

It's times like these when I wish I owned a bathrobe as I only have a dressing gown that looks like a dressing gown :( AngelOfSadness talk 17:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well go get one! :P That's what I did. GlassCobra 18:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright I will. (Disclaimer:The whole bathrobe getting mission might take a while to complete) AngelOfSadness talk 18:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome. Keep us posted! GlassCobra 18:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Will do :D AngelOfSadness talk 18:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My Apologies

I believed that I had added the reference, but upon rechecking the page realized that I hadn't. Thank you for pointing that out.

No problemo ;D AngelOfSadness talk 20:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

For fixing this. I didn't know I have a fan in Wikipedia. --Endless Dan 17:15, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo. Usually page moves like that, when patrolling RC, are a rare occurance so I was very surprised when I saw it. :D AngelOfSadness talk 17:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage vandalism

Thanks once again. :-) Lra drama 09:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lradrama has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Lra drama 09:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo :D AngelOfSadness talk 17:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coaching

Hello AngelOfSadness! I was wondering if you had any answers for your coaching at all. I know you said you are busy, but I just wanted to check up on you. :) Acalamari 18:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was beginning to wonder when I could begin. I can work on the answers tonight luckily enough. But then it might be another week before I get more wikipedia time in. I have to admit I was looking at the coaching questions a few weeks ago and I worked out draft answers to them in my head. Hopefully I can remember what they were :) AngelOfSadness talk 19:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I did say that you could answer them when you were ready to. :) I have more questions to put down, but I decided to leave them for now to let you answer the current ones first. :) Don't rush yourself. Acalamari 19:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You mean there's more? :). No probs, I will take my time answering so the answers are clear, precise and etc. :) AngelOfSadness talk 19:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They'll be more, but not for now. :) Acalamari 19:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK Great as it's taken me the last half hour to write all that I want to say...for question 1. It looks like this is gonna take a while :) AngelOfSadness talk 20:09, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent! You're answered all 12 questions! We'll keep discussion on that page in future, and I'll mark all your answers and respond when necessary. Good work! Acalamari 00:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Sounds good. :) AngelOfSadness talk 00:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave the additional questions out for now. It's best you have a little break first. :) Acalamari 00:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great. I will as I'm going to bed once I take a look at some of the current Rfa nominations and then check my watchlist and.... AngelOfSadness talk 00:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've put the second set of questions in. :) They are somewhat more difficult than the first 12, so take your time to answer them. :) Acalamari 22:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great. I'll take a look at them and maybe start answering some of them. :) AngelOfSadness talk 22:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scarian's RfA

Just read your comment... do you need a "not" in there somewhere? ;) —αlεx•mullεr 00:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. Thanks. It's my bed time so that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. :) (yes someone is a little over-tired (me :)) AngelOfSadness talk 00:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome – I should really be heading to bed sometime soon as well, but there's always stuff to do round here... —αlεx•mullεr 00:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

True. It's always when I decide to go to bed when I "accidentally" click on Recent changes or my watchlist and find something that needs immediate attention and it cannot wait seven hours to be fixed :) AngelOfSadness talk 15:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HIM's grammy nomination

How is it a violation of WP:NPOV that HIM (more specifically the album Venus Doom) is nominated for a grammy? I don't think stating a fact like HIM's album being nominated for a Grammy violates WP:NPOV at all. Other bands that have had similar nominations, and without winning, have the same thing: "{band} is a Grammy-nominated band etc.", so an explantion of why you think it does, is wanted. — Save_Us † 01:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For AngelOfSadness: This is the best explanation of why saying "(so and so) is a Grammy-award winning/nominated (such and such)" in the opening sentence is not NPOV; and as for all those other artists that have "is a Grammy-nominated/winning" in the opening sentence, they should have it removed too. I was asked a similar question the other day. Acalamari 03:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Acalamari has explained it perfectly. Having "{band} is a Grammy-award nominated/winning" in the opening sentence does set a slight biased view on the article. The opening sentence is to explain who HIM are and they are a Finnish rock band. Even though they win or are nominated for awards, it's not who they are. We could include that they have been nominated for the award later in the lead paragraph for example "As of 2008, they are the first and only Finnish band to go Gold in the United States. Their latest album , Venus Dooom, was nominated in the Best Boxed or Special Limited Edition Package category at the 2008 Grammy Awards". Also if you look at the Audioslave, Metallica, Megadeth and Nine Inch Nails articles. All four bands have been nominated multiple times for Grammy awards but it isn't mentioned until the middle/last part of their respective lead paragraphs. And I think we should do the same with the HIM article aswell, partly because the four articles I mentioned above are all featured articles and isn't the ultimate goal for the HIM article is to get it to eventual featured status. I also know that the HIM article has a long way to go before featured status but we could at least start with this. AngelOfSadness talk 13:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well the way I see it that is a valid reason for removing it per WP:MOS moreso than WP:NPOV. Either way, thanks for the explantion. — Save_Us † 18:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Thanks - Milk's Favorite Cookie 21:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo :) AngelOfSadness talk 21:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks from me as well. NHRHS 2010 23:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And just a note, I've also seen 62.158.116.231 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) (the IP that vandalized Milk's Favorite Cookie's userpage) post spam comments on YouTube several times as well, as seen in the comments section on this video (I could tell it's the same person because the comment is identical). NHRHS 2010 23:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for the barnstar. Isn't it times like these when I wish that youtube was more like wikipedia: if people post spam/abusive comments they get blocked. But then again maybe not as everyone who comments/uploads vlogs etc. would be in violation of NPOV...shame :). AngelOfSadness talk 17:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube is a bit like Wikipedia; if a user violates Terms of Use, spams, and infringes copyright, their account gets suspended. However, YouTube doesn't have checkuser and it is impossible to block IP addresses from creating new accounts. NHRHS 2010 19:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now that's what Youtube is missing: Checkuser. But there's so many banned users creating new accounts that starting to use Checkuser now would probably takes months to clear the years of misuse. Now that backlog would be a sight to see, or not, it could crash computers :) AngelOfSadness talk 19:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]