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The Signpost: 18 September 2013
- WikiProject report: 18,464 Good Articles on the wall
- Featured content: Hurricane Diane and Van Gogh
- Technology report: What can Wikidata do for Wikipedia?
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Wikidata weekly summary #76
- Events/Press/Blogs
- upcoming: UK Wikidata Training
- Magnus blogged about the Wikidata Query tool
- Gerard did an interview with Emw about the heady stuff of Wikidata
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- 30 percent of all items are categorized in 6 large groups (main type (GND) (P107)). Most are items about geographic features (1.7 million items), some of these already have coordinates (0.5 million). Items about persons are fairly frequent too (1.3 million), many already with gender (0.9 million), a few with DOB (0.05 million) or DOD (0.04 million). Other groups include: creative works (305,000), terms, organizations, and events.
- The first 2 Wikidata oversighters are elected, Ajraddatz and Rschen7754. Please contact the email at the above page, and do not post requests onwiki. Two more candidates are running: Stryn and Sven Manguard.
- Neat new gadget to semi-automatically import labels, aliases and descriptions based on Wikipedia article introductions
- New search backend on testwikidata needs testing
- Commons is still scheduled to get interwiki links via Wikidata on Monday and can also be tested on test.wikidata.org
- Did you know?
- Development
- Wikimedia Deutschland is looking for a software developer with a focus on frontend development with Java Script to work on Wikidata among other things. Apply!
- Paper Cut: Display the ID of an item or property page next to the label (bugzilla:53462)
- Paper Cut: Fix value field not loading for some properties (bugzilla:53157)
- Paper Cut: Work on supporting non-earth globes in the UI (bugzilla:54097)
- Worked on quantity data type implementation in backend and frontend
- Work on a build and release tool for the Wikidata software
- More work on sorting of references and qualifiers
- Work on database schema modification functionality to be used by the query store
- Prepare deployment for Wikimedia Commons (including improving script for populating sites table, adding support for Wikimedia Commons)
- Work on making entity data available in the Mobile Wikibase skin
- new Cirrus Search (Elastic Search) backend enabled on test.wikidata.org
- Finished up cucumber tests for sitelinks
- Hotfixes for coordinates autosummaries
- Worked on simplifying process of defining wb.fetchedEntities
- Finished working on wbeditentity
- Worked on MySQL and SQLite table definition readers
- Open Tasks for You
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Respond to a "Request for Comment".
- Hack on one of these.
Thank you and a late reply
I just saw your comment on the talk of the schools and university projects page. I was there to "clean house" because that page doesn't get used much. I linked your page at WP:Student assignments and by the way, most education discussion happens at the WP:Education noticeboard. That's where I was discussing with User:Mike Cline about using Wikipedia to discuss ways to share the type of knowledge you documented at Wikipedia:Participation by academic projects. Your page is more of a Wikimedia document than a Wikipedia document... hmmmmm.... I wonder what a more descriptive title might be? Maybe "Engaging with Wikimedia platforms as a cultural or educational institution"? I don't know! Anyhow, nice to run across your name on the wiki. Hopefully our paths will cross again sometime. Best regards. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 08:47, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
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If possible, please check geolocation requests. Time Sensitive.
Please check request at Wikipedia:Geonotice#Requests, if possible. Thanks! Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:09, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks so much, and congratulations on the happy occasion!Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 14:35, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
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Last-minute Geonotice, sorry!
Hey there! I've just posted a really last-minute Geonotice Request -- sorry about that! If you see it before tomorrow night, I'd really appreciate you running it, even for a single night. If you don't, that's totally fine: it's completely my fault for not getting this thing organized earlier. Thanks! -- Gaurav (talk) 05:06, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
- Done! Thanks for the pointer - I probably wouldn't have noticed it before the weekend otherwise. Andrew Gray (talk) 11:44, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
British Antarctic Survey category
FYI, I have created and populated Category:British Antarctic Survey. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:24, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks - surprised we didn't have it already... Andrew Gray (talk) 20:12, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #77
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- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Denny's last day on the development team was today. He has a few closing remarks in this blog post.
- Wikimedia Commons now gets language links via Wikidata
- Stryn's request for oversight flag
- Individual Engagement Grants Proposal: Understanding Wikidata
- Terminator now also has most linked-to items with no label in language X
- Draft for Wikidata support of Wikiquote
- Open position for a JavaScript developer to work on Wikidata - please spread the word
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: KSH code, FishBase species identifier, work location, Commons gallery, heritagefoundation.ca ID, PMCID, city served, type of electrification, color space, activating neurotransmitter, anatomical location, postsynaptic connection, presynaptic connection, possible treatments, possible examinations, magnetic ordering, main topic of creative work, Spanish subject headings for public libraries, SOC Occupation Code, NOC Occupation Code, GRAU index
- Development
- Said Good Bye to Denny - *sob*
- Improved layout for commons sitelink table
- More work on sorting
- Worked on statements UI tests
- Fixed failing QUnit tests
- Deployed new code and updated sites for Commons deployment
- Fixed a number of small bugs
- Code review for Google Summer of Code student projects
- Work to automate creating deployment branches and builds of Wikibase with its dependencies
- Open Tasks for You
- Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
- Build a bot for one of the "bot requests".
- Respond to a "Request for Comment".
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Rewards and Fairies
There seem to be at least three illustrators for this one from roughly 1910; do you know, by any chance, which is original?
Also, I found a book we lack an article on: Soldier Tales. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:13, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
- I think Soldier Tales is a republication rather than one of Kipling's specific volumes, but I'd have to check to be sure. Does it contain a lot of Soldiers Three by any chance?
- I think the answer may be "it's complicated". Several were published in magazines (The Delineator, Nash's Magazine) a few months before publication, and it's possible they had alternate illustrators here. The book versions seem to be Frank Craig. Andrew Gray (talk) 21:38, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
- It contains the characters, but not any of the stories from that collection, unless I missed one. It contins "With the Main Guard", "The Drums of the Fore and Aft", "The Man who Was", "The Courting of Dinah Shadd", "The Incarnation of Krishna Mulvaney", "The Taking of Lungtungpen", and "The Madness of Private Ortheris". A couple of those are in Plain Tales from the Hills, but not all. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:59, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting. The volume was produced by Macmillan in 1896 (so definitely legitimate), and the stories are from 1888 (Soldiers Three), 1888 (Wee Willie Winkie), 1890 (Life's Handicap), 1890 (Dinah Shadd then Life's Handicap), 1889 (Dinah Shadd then Life's Handicap), 1887 (Plain Tales from the Hills), and 1888 (Plain Tales from the Hills) - so all collected elsewhere first. I wonder if this was a repackaging to keep the market interested in a relatively fallow year? He hadn't produced "real" short stories since 1893, if you discount the Jungle Book - which I think quite a few readers did at the time - and Captains Courageous wasn't due out until the next year. It's not just modern publishers who'll try new editions of old content to catch people's interest ;-) Andrew Gray (talk) 21:01, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- It contains the characters, but not any of the stories from that collection, unless I missed one. It contins "With the Main Guard", "The Drums of the Fore and Aft", "The Man who Was", "The Courting of Dinah Shadd", "The Incarnation of Krishna Mulvaney", "The Taking of Lungtungpen", and "The Madness of Private Ortheris". A couple of those are in Plain Tales from the Hills, but not all. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:59, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Also, I have the Frank Craig illustrations. They're... alright, but not great, but I found evidence of publications in the same year using more Puck-like illustrations. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately my Kipling books are elsewhere, so can't chase details, but here's where to look for copies of any other illustrations (taken from the Reader's Guide):
- Weland's Sword - Strand Magazine (Jan 1906), Ladies' Home Journal (Jan 1906)
- Young Men at the Manor - Strand Magazine (Feb 1906), Ladies' Home Journal (Feb 1906)
- The Knights of the Joyous Venture - Strand Magazine (Mar 1906), Ladies' Home Journal (Mar 1906)
- Old Men at Pevensey - Strand Magazine (Apr 1906), Ladies' Home Journal (Apr 1906)
- A Centurion of the Thirtieth - Strand Magazine (May 1906), McClure's Magazine (May 1906)
- On the Great Wall - Strand Magazine (June 1906), McClure's Magazine (June 1906)
- The Winged Hats - Strand Magazine (Jul 1906), McClure's Magazine (Jul 1906)
- Hal o' the Draft - Strand Magazine (Aug 1906), McClure's Magazine (Aug 1906)
- Dymchurch Flit - Strand Magazine (Sep 1906), McClure's Magazine (Sep 1906)
- The Treasure and the Law - Strand Magazine (Oct 1906), McClure's Magazine (Oct 1906)
- ...a very well-organised syndication campaign! So three possible magazines which might have employed their own illustrators. The Strand is on archive.org; here is the first one, in the Jan-Jun volume. I can't quite make out the signature, but it's not Craig. Neither the LHJ or McClure's seem to have relevant volumes on archive.org. Andrew Gray (talk) 21:01, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hm. http://archive.org/stream/rewardsfairies00kipl2#page/n39/mode/2up has different illustrations, by C. E. Brock, although that's from 1960. Frankly, I'd rather do the Brock illustrations than the Craig, but I'll go with Craig if I can't find proof he was early enough. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:54, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- I've just realised something: I am an idiot. (No news there). You're doing Rewards and Fairies, not Puck of Pook's Hill, and the stories listed above are from Puck not from the later collection. Here's R&F:
- Cold Iron - The Delineator, Sept 1909
- Gloriana - The Delineator, Dec 1909; Nash's Magazine, Mar 1910
- The Wrong Thing - The Delineator, Nov 1909; Nash's Magazine, May 1910
- Marklake Witches - not previously published
- The Knife and the Naked Chalk - Harper's Magazine, Dec 1909
- Brother Square-Toes - The Delineator, Jul 1910
- A Priest in Spite of Himself - The Delineator, Aug 1910
- The Conversion of St Wilfrid - The Delineator, Jan 1910
- A Doctor of Medicine - The Delineator, Oct 1909; Nash's Magazine, Aug 1910
- Simple Simon - The Delineator, Jun 1910; Nash's Magazine, Jul 1910
- The Tree of Justice - The Delineator, Feb 1910
- Here is The Knife and the Naked Chalk, the only Harper's story; illustrations are by "ESC" (?). Nash's is not on IA, nor is the Delineator. Andrew Gray (talk) 19:44, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
WikiCup 2013 September newsletter
In 30 days, we will know the identity of our 2013 WikiCup champion. 
Cwmhiraeth (submissions) currently leads; if that lead is held, she will become the first person to have won the WikiCup twice. 
Sasata (submissions), 
Hawkeye7 (submissions)—who has never participated in the competition before—and 
Casliber (submissions) follow. The majority of points in this round have come from a mix of good articles and bonus points. This final round is seeing contributions to a number of highly important topics; recent submissions include Phoenix (constellation) (FA by Casliber), Ernest Lawrence (GA by Hawkeye7), Pinniped, and red fox (both GAs by Sasata).
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Wikidata weekly summary #78
- Discussions
- 3 Individual Engagement Grants related to Wikidata are looking for feedback and endorsements: Understanding Wikidata, Wikidata Toolkit and Wikintelligence
- Request for Comments on linking Wikimedia Commons
- Events/Press/Blogs
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Tempo-spatial display (events in Wikidata on a map)
- Canned queries (for queries that help find missing information)
- Wikidata Browse (pretty slideshow of random Wikidata items, their pictures, labels in various languages and statements)
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- We've crossed ID 15000000: d:Q15000000 (Category:Sternorsidis)
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- Newest properties: Code of nomenclature, programmer, theme music, inspired by, GHS precautionary statements
- Development
- Finished initial version of the build tool (= tool that creates one tarball/git repository from all our extensions and their dependencies for deployment)
- Continued work on numbers data type
- Continued work on Formatters (for autosummaries, diffs, etc)
- Fixed RDF serialization issue
- Merged merge API module
- Finished up database schema updating code
- Added validation for precision in globe coordinate value
- Finished and released Diff extension version 0.9
- Polishing work on Wikibase QueryEngine
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- Open Tasks for You
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- Hack on one of these.
- Note from Lydia about the future of the weekly summaries
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