User talk:Andreim1828
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[edit]Hi Andreim1828! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.
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October 2024
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Andreim1828 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I don't understand what in my previous unblock request was considered a personal attack. I feel like the moderator is exercising bias and blocking me for disagreeing with them on a social issue. If editing other users' Wikipedia pages is not allowed, then please let me know and I won't do it again. However I do not believe that a first offense (which I didn't even know was an offense) justifies me being completely banned from editing Wikipedia articles. This completely violates the basis of Wikipedia being considered an open-source project. Andreim1828 (talk) 22:54, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
No-one is exercising bias. No-one is blocking you for disagreeing on a social issue. The fact as to how you thought it was OK to call someone a "vicious antisemite" is not explained in the above unblock request. Daniel (talk) 01:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
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Andreim1828 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
The user whose page I was modifying was consistently engaged in harassment of Jewish users of Wikipedia by bastardizing definitions of their own terms. He has been fully sanctioned by Wikipedia and this is unfair bias that is bound to lead to a lawsuit. I was not engaged in harassment; the user is engaged in harassment and trying to rewrite history. I understand that perhaps I was unaware of the rules regarding editing other users' Wikipedia pages, but I was attempting to find a way to balance out perspectives on the issue, and to indicate that the main editor of the Wikipedia Zionism page is a vicious antisemite. If editing other users' Wikipedia pages is not allowed, then please let me know and I won't do it again. Andreim1828 (talk) 21:21, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Unblock requests containing personal attacks are not considered. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 21:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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Andreim1828 (talk) 21:21, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Non-administrator comment) Hello! Calling an editor a
vicious antisemite
is indeed considered a personal attack on Wikipedia. While articles (like the one on Zionism) do not belong to individual editors, personal user pages are individual, and you shouldn't edit someone else's user page without their consent. Even if the user has differing political opinions on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, having these opinions is not in itself harassment, and is not a valid reason for you to edit their user page.Regarding advice for your unblock request: claiming that the administrator who blocked you is biased is usually a poor strategy – it is better to understand what led to them blocking you, and, if they are truly in the wrong (which I don't think they are), politely point it out without attacking them. Claiming thatthis is unfair bias that is bound to lead to a lawsuit
is also discouraged, as per our policy on legal threats.An indefinite block isn't forever, and the best path forwards is to provide reassurance that you understand the situation and that you will not repeat the behavior that led to the block. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:08, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Andreim1828 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Thank you for your message. I don't remember calling the user a vicious antisemite (and there's no digital footprint left for me to verify this) but I accept that I did and that this was a very poor choice of words. I also understand now that commenting on another person's talk page without their consent is not a valid form of behavior. :I did not fully review the rules of engagement on Wikipedia prior to joining as an editor, and I apologize for that, but I have looked through them now, and I will not edit other people's talk pages in the future. I would appreciate to be unblocked so that I may continue editing and contributing positively to Wikipedia. Andreim1828 (talk) 18:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
It's right here on this page. Claiming there's no "digital footprint" when it's right here on this page means I can't take the rest of your unblock request seriously. Also please note, new unblock requests go at the bottom of the page, not in the middle. Yamla (talk) 18:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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- To clarify: commenting on a user's talk page is acceptable, not on their user page. These are two distinct pages. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Andreim1828 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Hello, I am sorry for not clarifying. I did not realize that I wrote it in my first request on this page, and now I see where I wrote it. I am acting out of good faith and I hope you can take the rest of my request seriously. Also, thank you ChaoticEnby for your clarification. I appreciate that and will note it for the future (though I will refrain at least in the near future from commenting on others' talk pages until I become more aware about how this is properly done). Andreim1828 (talk) 22:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You'll need to agree to abide by the Contentious Topic rules(not editing at all about the Israeli-Arab conflict, no matter how small a connection, until you have 500 substantive edits). You'll also need to make it clear that you aren't making legal threats, which isn't just (hypothetically) "I'm going to sue you", it's also using the threat of legal action as a cudgel(i.e. "you don't want to do that or you might get sued"). Lastly, you'll need to tell what edits you will make instead. 331dot (talk) 08:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
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{{unblock reviewed |1=I will not making legal threats, implicitly or explicitly, to Wikipedia. I wish to be a good-faith editor on this website. To clarify, are my past edits on pages such as [[Daniel Levy (political analyst)]] also ''loosely related'' to the Israeli-Arab conflict? Can I edit pages like his if the edit isn't related to the Israeli-Arab conflict? I would appreciate clarification on this matter. Regardless, I will follow rules and not make any edits about the conflict until I have 500 edits. In the meantime, you can see several of my contributions to topics not at all related to the middle east. I will provide edits to mathematics-related pages, Jewish-related pages ('''not''' Israel-related) and actor-related pages in the meantime. Thank you! EDIT: May I please see this request reviewed? I posted it a couple weeks ago and haven't received a response. [[User:Andreim1828|Andreim1828]] ([[User talk:Andreim1828#top|talk]]) 18:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}
- A page about a
former advisor to the Israeli government with expertise on Middle East and the Israeli–Palestinian conflict
definitely falls under the contentious topic in its entirety. Given that your edit summary wasIt is biased to call the war a “war on Gaza” rather than a “war in Gaza”, implying in particular that Israel is waging war on the Palestinian population as a whole.
, I think it should be obvious that your edit is way more than just loosely related. Best to avoid editing any page tangentially related to the politics/military of the states of Israel and Palestine, the historical region of Palestine, the historical kingdoms of Israel, the history of Zionism, etc.To clarify, editing an article about a person who happens to be Jewish/Israeli/Palestinian, or who happened to give their opinion about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict once is okay, assuming you don't edit sections related to the conflict. But editing an article about a person mainly known for their role in the conflict or the political history of the region (broadly defined, so someone from before 1948 like Theodor Herzl also counts) isn't. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:03, 2 November 2024 (UTC) - Okay, thank you, I appreciate the clarification! I'll refrain from editing pages of anyone who is mostly associated to the Israeli-Arab conflict in that case. Andreim1828 (talk · contribs) 23:35, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Andreim1828 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
May my unblock request perhaps be reviewed? I wish to edit Lexicographic Order because I have found a mistake there. Andreim1828 (talk) 21:19, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Procedural decline; you already have an unblock request open. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 02:22, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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