User talk:2601:648:4280:1050:5948:DA86:BC91:EA5C

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, 2601:648:4280:1050:5948:DA86:BC91:EA5C. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Clarence White, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
• propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
• disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
• avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
• do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Tacyarg (talk) 15:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Conflict of interest? He's my grandfather! His fans deserve to know that his lineage survives!! 2601:648:4280:1050:5948:DA86:BC91:EA5C (talk) 17:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Him being your grandfather is the conflict of interest. As it says above:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family

I have no doubt that honouring your grandfather's legacy is very important to you. But these policies exist to help keep Wikipedia as neutral as possible, which is important given it is a trusted information source for billions of people. No matter how small the changes you want to make are, if people habitually wrote about their friends, family members etc then neutrality would break down quite quickly. -AntiDionysius (talk) 17:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

His fans deserve to know he has a lineage, even though he died young. You are being really heartless here.. Requiring that I provide birth records when you had this same information posted for years! How am I supposed to reference birth certificates??

This is ridiculous! It is terrible you have such a monopoly on quick information provided online. 2601:648:4280:1050:5948:DA86:BC91:EA5C (talk) 18:09, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm not suggesting you provide birth certificates; I'm saying that the information doesn't belong in the article, but that if it did it would be necessary to have evidence for it. Frankly, if the only way to evidence it is to provide private documents like birth certificates, that is a particularly good indication that it does not belong on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not meant to be a compendium of all information in the world, it is meant to summarise what exists in trustworthy public sources. AntiDionysius (talk) 18:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

I hope you bring that same energy to all other artists articles and just delete important relationship information that isnt verifiable.. Who cares if these people were actually human.. have fun sleeping at night. 2601:648:4280:1050:5948:DA86:BC91:EA5C (talk) 18:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

If you would like to point me towards some of these articles you've mentioned, I will indeed make the same type of edits. Wikipedia is always a work in progress.

Not all humans get Wikipedia mentions. I am also human, but there's no Wikipedia page about me or mention of me in any article. Removing someone's name from a Wikipedia page isn't a denial of their humanity or comment on their worth, it's just an editorial decision about the best way to write an article. AntiDionysius (talk) 18:21, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

July 2024

Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. AntiDionysius (talk) 16:39, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Reliable source?!? I am the son of Michelle White, grandson of Clarence White. Other artists have surviving family members listed in detail what is your problem with listing surviving family members on this article? 2601:648:4280:1050:5948:DA86:BC91:EA5C (talk) 17:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Okay. Your personal knowledge can't be a source, because we have no way of verifying it. Please read the rules on Conflicts of Interest; we strongly discourage people from editing articles about their family members. AntiDionysius (talk) 17:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

You can verify births with public medical records. This is ridiculous. You didn't even have his death date right. He was hit on 07/15, and died on 7/19/74 after days in a coma. It's a shame Wikipedia has established a curb on information provided online, because you are failing to provide accurate and all information possible in this instance. 2601:648:4280:1050:5948:DA86:BC91:EA5C (talk) 18:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

You didn't include the public medical records when you edited though, is my point. AntiDionysius (talk) 18:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

As the Conflict of Interest policy states, you are welcome to suggest edits to be made to the article, especially if you are correcting errors. If those suggested edits are in line with Wikipedia policy (which listing the names of family members generally is not) and you provide good sources for them, other users will make the edits no problem. You're just not meant to do the editing yourself, when you have a COI. AntiDionysius (talk) 18:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Hi 2601:648:4280:1050:5948:DA86:BC91:EA5C! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Clarence White several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Clarence White, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. Tacyarg (talk) 17:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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