Template talk:Wikidata fallback link

Inspiration

For future reference: this template was inspired by Template:Wl at the Italian Wikisource, which was mentioned by Luca Martinelli in the Wikidata chat room on Telegram.

--Waldir (talk) 15:28, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements

The template should probably check whether the existing article matches (i.e. is connected to) the Wikidata ID, for concepts that share the same name. I realized this when I tried to produce the link in the section above using {{Wikidata fallback link|Luca Martinelli|Q26773031}}, which ended up linking to Luca Martinelli -- a different person.
We might want to include a "create" link, maybe shown on hover? That way the aspect of red links that should encourage their creation is not lost.

--Waldir (talk) 15:37, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Waldir, I just stumbled on this template. It shares some of the aims and features with Template:Wikidata red link which I created recently. The main difference is that mine will show a red link when the article doesn't exist, which will help to encourage creation. What do you think about merging these templates into one? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:59, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Waldyrious: fixing ping for new username! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:44, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey MSGJ, long time no talk! Yeah, the templates should probably be merged. I like the red link aspect, but I do worry that exposing the Q numbers may not be the most friendly interface for readers who are not aware of Wikidata. Maybe something like Phu Khong (

) could work? We could make it an opt-in behavior if you'd rather not use images by default (although a Q-number isn't that much more informative, tbh). WDYT? --Waldyrious (talk) 21:16, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How about [Wikidata] which is how {{ill}} outputs it? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed Template:Wikidata red link to use [Wikidata] and will start work on the merge shortly. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:14, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, that's probably a better approach. (Sorry for the late reply.) --Waldyrious (talk) 17:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Consider merging with Template:interlanguage link

Moved from Template talk:Wikidata red link

It looks like there is some overlap. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:54, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm planning initially to merge with Template:Wikidata fallback link because that template has the same aims as this one, a better name, but perhaps not as good functionality as this one — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:12, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done, these are now merged — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]