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Edit title param

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Change

  • {{{title|<includeonly>{{PAGENAMEBASE}}</includeonly>}}}

into

  • {{#if:{{{title|}}}|{{{title|}}}|<includeonly>{{PAGENAMEBASE}}</includeonly>}}

Because it doesn't work and people are unnecessarily adding Page name for the |title= value. See Crocus City Hall attack as an example. Balyozxane (talk) 00:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Balyozxane what exactly doesn't work? Previewing removing the |title= param shows the title correctly. Do you mean that the parameter in VE is "required"? I've updated it so it's optional. SWinxy (talk) 19:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SWinxy When title is empty, it doesn't show the page name. That's what I meant. Balyozxane (talk) 19:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done SWinxy (talk) 20:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The term "perpetrators" violates NPOV

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The definition used in this template is "The groups that bring about or carries out a harmful, illegal, or immoral act (use perpetrator in case of a single group)."

"Harmful" is a catch-all escape hatch, but the term usually has a negative tone to it. But some would argue that the Killing of Nahida and Samar Anton or the Church of Saint Porphyrius airstrike were neither illegal nor immoral - nobody has faced any criminal charges, and the people carrying them out didn't think it was immoral, or even necessarily harmful. jftsang 18:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What other term is there for someone who did something? This template is intended for cases that are criminal. In the few cases where there is a justified usage on a page where "perpetrator" would be the wrong word, just omit the parameter. Many of the cases that would have the problem you mention shouldn't even be using this template; the airstrike page shouldn't be, probably the military action one instead. I'm not sure if the other one is even notable. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 2 October 2024

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The TfD has been closed as keep. Thanks, Charlotte (Queen of Heartstalk) 01:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]