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It would be nice if this template marked when HT provides full text access czar 22:00, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Czar: Agree 100%. One problem I've seen the HathiTrust links is that sometimes it's full text access even though it is marked in places like WorldCat as being search access only, so I'm not sure even if this was tagged properly if it would be a true reflection of what's actually fully accessible or not. Also there might be different country restrictions on access depending on where you are logged on, maybe? I'm not sure. I always check OCL's WorldCat for everything and just hope it's digitized somewhere else. It's a whole bag of worms IMO. :-) -- Erika

@BrillLyle, by and large (I think unless the editor is at the Univ of Michigan), most non-public domain books will not be full text access. I'm thinking something like |ft=y to add "(full text available)" after the item's name in the template. Eh? czar 14:54, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Czar: I recently had this experience with something that said it was marked indexed only but was fully digitized by the Online Archive of California: California Digital Library. I wonder if there might be other large repositories like OAC and UMI where this might be the case? I just don't have enough knowledge of HathiTrust to know this -- especially for international repositories. That would be my only hesitation, with putting to much granularity on the template. What do you think? Should this be an option but not a default maybe? -- Erika (University of Michigan class of 1989 actually ha!) aka BrillLyle (talk) 15:24, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I don't know all the details offhand but my understanding is that universities added their books to the collection and in return received a digital copy they could use. HT is kind of a commons for the major book digitization efforts where those institution copies are deposited. UMich, in particular, donated a lot of books to the effort (or is its home) but I don't know whether that means affiliated faculty/staff/students can access the university's digital copies in full text rather than limited search. I would think that copyright law is the limiting factor here and not school ownership. Anyway, when a source is available in full text and it is reasonably assumed that it will be available in full text for other viewers (likely because it's in the public domain), I think a param like the one above would make sense. czar 15:55, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]