Template talk:Country data Nazi Germany

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Name option

Can there be a variant/option made so that it still wiki-links to Nazi Germany but the name Germany is shown? -- Phoenix (talk) 09:50, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Use {{flagcountry|Nazi Germany}} — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:52, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1933-1935

For the time until the Flag Law of 1935 (i.e. September 1935) the Imperial Flag should be used instead of the flag of the Nazi Party, this was the case historically as well. -134.93.52.128 (talk) 19:19, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Nazi Germany 1935–1945

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The flag was adopted in 1935. Here is the flag regulation of 18 June 1937 that clarified the specifications of the off-centred disk national flag that was adopted then. I created this flag based on that:

I request that the flag image I have shown here should be included in the flag section of the template. This part of the regulation describes what the difference is between the reverse side of the national flag to the merchant flag.--R-41 (talk) 22:42, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The flag with the the off-centred disk should at least be an option as (at least as I understand it) it was the State flag from 1935 onwards. --Thefrood (talk) 17:47, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

German National flag 1935-1945
National Socialist German Workers' Party flag 1920–1945 & co-German National flag 1933–1935
co-German National flag 1933–1935

See also Flag of Nazi Germany#Nazi Germany

I think all three flags should be available with the 1935–1945 being the default.
--Thefrood (talk) 15:19, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

added the variants requested. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:02, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you --Thefrood (talk) 11:29, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Name of country

It was not called NAZI germany as that was the party name. It was Third Reich (or whatever the official name with this lflag waS) Rather pov to state this. At any rate, the wikilink can redirect there.Lihaas (talk) 08:48, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Off-center Nazi flag

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The default flag under should be this one. With the swastika and disc off-center. That was the flag that was last used, and used for the longest period. There should perhaps be the option (under "nazi" perhaps?) to use the centered flag, which was the flag of the NSDAP throughout its history, but was the flag of Germany only for a short period (1933-35, alongside the black-white-red tricolour). In addition, I would change the label used for the war flag from "naval" to "war", since it was the war flag (but I suspect there may be difficulties there?). -- Director (talk) 18:25, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I gave the tricolour flag the label "1933", so please suggest a suitable label for the off-centre flag. I don't think we can change naval to war because there may be lots of articles using the naval label already. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:40, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's just my point, I don't think there should be any label at all for the off-center flag. "{{flagicon|Nazi Germany}}" currently renders the centered swastika flag - whereas it should be the off-center flag (which was official last and for by far the longer period). I.e. the off-center flag is "the" flag of Nazi Germany, and should be the default flag.

As for which label should be used for the centered flag, well I'm not certain. But since it was the NSDAP party flag throughout its history, I might suggest "nsdap" as the label, or perhaps "nazi". -- Director (talk) 15:55, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've edited a lot of pages with the "|1933" and"|1935" option so whatever is decided it would be nice if those options continued to work,

Off-centre as default makes sense to me, perhaps "|1933n" for the centred disc flag? --Thefrood (talk) 16:20, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you added a lot of "|1935" labels to introduce the off-center flag, and the off-center flag is adopted as default - then the "|1935" label simply won't work and the off-center flag will be used anyway by default. They will be redundant but the result will be the same :). I agree that "1933n" would be a good idea as well. -- Director (talk) 16:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I meant centred in my original response, but it seems you worked that out. I think I've resolved all these requests now. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Martin/(MSGJ, Template:Country data Germany has a similar issue and as you are now familiar with the subject matter would you be able to take a look at that page once a there is a resolution here? (If not I'll do a formal edit request over there once we have a resolution here). --Thefrood (talk) 17:14, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On my way. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:55, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, thank you --Thefrood (talk) 09:48, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

3-letter alias

I would suggest a three-letter alias/redirect be added to this template, similar to {{Country data Germany}} being provided with GER/DEU. Some articles like this one use table contains flags with the corresponding three letter country codes. This template however does provide that function and currently such an article cannot link to the correct country the flag actual denotes. T v x1 15:24, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 5 January 2019

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What is now flag alias = Flag of the German Reich (1935–1945).svg
must be changed to flag alias = Flag of the Germany (1935–1945).svg
as this is the current filename of the nazi german flag
This change has broken many things, so now no flag is displayed currently and should be fixed ASAP Havsjö (talk) 12:47, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Or actually, will this fix anything? Maybe the filename will need to be reverted... --Havsjö (talk) 15:27, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Already done – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:31, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 17 September 2023

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Would it be possible to somehow create template links to the Sturmabteilung (SA) and the Schutzstaffel (SS), which is already done with branches of the Wehrmacht (at this section)?

— Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 00:27, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ω Awaiting – editor Sundostund, this has been [sandboxed] and needs your approval/comments. If you approve then the live template will be updated. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 11:03, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Paine Ellsworth: Well, from what is sandboxed, I can't see how the actual template links would look (as opposed to template links to branches of the Wehrmacht, which are obviously visible). So I am not quite sure what you mean. I am sorry if there is some misunderstanding on my part. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 12:48, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, okay, these meta templates are used in such as {{flag|Nazi Germany|ss}}, which, after the sandbox code is transferred to the live template, will yield the SS flag and a link to the SS article. Since the SA does not have its own flag, then when used in the Flag template, it would look like this:

Sturmabteilung, and the SS would appear as:

Schutzstaffel. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 13:11, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Paine Ellsworth: Oh ok. To me, it was just confusing that I can't see template links along with the other (already existing) ones... And of course, feel free to update the live template according to your proposal, and we'll see how it function at relevant articles, once its used there. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 13:18, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The edits are live, and I just discovered that link aliases don't appear for such variants, so both will link to Nazi Germany:

{{flag|Nazi Germany|ss}} yields Nazi Germany, and
{{flag|Nazi Germany|sa}} yields Nazi Germany

If I'm not mistaken, that does not yield what you want, which are links to the SS and SA articles. The only way I can see that happening is with the code:

{{flagicon|Nazi Germany|ss}} [[Schutzstaffel]], which yields Schutzstaffel, and
{{flagicon|Nazi Germany|sa}} [[Sturmabteilung]], which yields Sturmabteilung

The links you see in the "Military ensigns" section are governed by the {{Country showdata}} template, which only allows armed-forces variants for army, navy, air force, space force, coast guard, military, marines and naval. Paramilitary organizations are not included. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 14:33, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Paine Ellsworth: Yeah, I thought that something like this could happen, in a way. Basically, the only way to yield the result that I want would be to create a new template link for paramilitary organizations, beside the existing ones for various branches of armed forces (Template:Army, Template:Navy, Template:Air force, etc). As I remember, I think that issue was raised earlier - in some discussion, but I can't recall where or when. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 15:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]