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AHD prefix to entry number
[edit]The template expands to "Entry AHDnnnnn, ...", but the target page does not use the AHD prefix. Eg the page for
says "Place ID 16274", not "AHD16274".
Given that the target page does not use the AHD prefix, I don't believe the template should show it. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Old department name
[edit]I have just noticed that this template points to the old department name, instead of the now current DAWE (Department of Agriculture, Water and the Environment). Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:34, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Laterthanyouthink:
Done Thanks for noticing, happy editing! --Muhandes (talk) 13:30, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the prompt action, Muhandes, but there has been another change since 2020, to the Department of Agriculture, Water and the Environment, and as far as I can see, you have changed it to a later, but now also superseded, name? These government departments are a pest because they keep changing! Laterthanyouthink (talk) 14:09, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Laterthanyouthink: My bad, didn't read the sentence to the end. Done --Muhandes (talk) 14:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Why not just put Australian Government and finesse the issue? I do this all the time with the Queensland Government's perpetually-changing alphabet soup of departments and simply don't mention them at all, but name the functional unit/service (eg "Parks and forests", "Place Names Database") as the website and QG as the publisher. I do this in citations all the time. The functional units are highly stable, as they are the building blocks used to randomly assemble the department-of-the-week. Although we are talking here about a template, which obviously makes the updating more efficient, as a broader issue with citation more generally, avoiding department names gives our citations greater longevity. Kerry (talk) 11:29, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- That's an excellent idea Kerry, if Laterthanyouthink does not object I will make it so. --Muhandes (talk) 16:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm very happy to go with that, Muhandes and Kerry Raymond, it does sound sensible. Thanks. (I quite often use Australian Government as publisher and department name as website in citations, but have not been consistent, and unless there's some reason for preserving the name of the entity at the time, might rethink these too.) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 21:19, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Done --Muhandes (talk) 21:27, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm very happy to go with that, Muhandes and Kerry Raymond, it does sound sensible. Thanks. (I quite often use Australian Government as publisher and department name as website in citations, but have not been consistent, and unless there's some reason for preserving the name of the entity at the time, might rethink these too.) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 21:19, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- That's an excellent idea Kerry, if Laterthanyouthink does not object I will make it so. --Muhandes (talk) 16:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Why not just put Australian Government and finesse the issue? I do this all the time with the Queensland Government's perpetually-changing alphabet soup of departments and simply don't mention them at all, but name the functional unit/service (eg "Parks and forests", "Place Names Database") as the website and QG as the publisher. I do this in citations all the time. The functional units are highly stable, as they are the building blocks used to randomly assemble the department-of-the-week. Although we are talking here about a template, which obviously makes the updating more efficient, as a broader issue with citation more generally, avoiding department names gives our citations greater longevity. Kerry (talk) 11:29, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Laterthanyouthink: My bad, didn't read the sentence to the end.
- Thanks for the prompt action, Muhandes, but there has been another change since 2020, to the Department of Agriculture, Water and the Environment, and as far as I can see, you have changed it to a later, but now also superseded, name? These government departments are a pest because they keep changing! Laterthanyouthink (talk) 14:09, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
