Template:Did you know nominations/Susan Folkman
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 20:41, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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Susan Folkman
- ... that psychologist Susan Folkman coined the terms "problem-focused coping" and "emotion-focused coping"? Encyclopedia of Health Psychology
- ALT1:... that psychologist Susan Folkman was the University of California, San Francisco's first full-time director of their Osher Center for Integrative Medicine? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- ALT2:... that psychologists Susan Folkman and Richard Lazarus introduced the idea of using cognitive appraisal to deal with stress and coping?
Created by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC).
- The article is new, long enough, and very well referenced. I see no neutrality or copyright issues. The hooks are all cited but I do not think they would draw in readers. The article has a potential for more interesting hooks; for example, Folkman being a stay at home mum for 12 years between earning a BA in history and embarking on an academic career in psychology. (I removed the bit about being a stay at home mum because it was not in the source, but I trust the information is out there somewhere). I am also intrigued by the fact that she first qualified as a historian before becoming an eminent psychologist. Can this be explained in the article a bit better? It might even make for a good hook, unless it's not so unusual in the US.
A couple of additional remarks. The subject is so evidently notable that I find it surprising that this is a new article on English Wikipedia. Catalan and French Wikipedias have had articles about Folkman since 2017. The article could use a portrait; I suggest asking the Osher Center for Integrative Medicine to change the license of this photograph to either Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic (CC BY-SA 2.0) or Attribution 2.0 Generic (CC BY 2.0). Their FlickR account might be inactive (I am not sure) but perhaps there is another way to contact them. Surtsicna (talk) 20:54, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Surtsicna, I have emailed Dr. Folkman and she has provided a photo but forgot to include the permissions. I am waiting on a response from her. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:15, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Even better! I now see the article is missing a citation for the date of birth. Hopefully one can be found. Surtsicna (talk) 22:38, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Surtsicna, still working on the photo. Re her birthday: on WikiData [1] her birthday is sourced to [2]. Is this okay? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 04:14, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- A photo is not required for DYK; it would just be a very useful addition (and it might make for a lead hook). I suppose that could work as a DoB reference. Surtsicna (talk) 11:56, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Surtsicna, So is it G2G besides the photo? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 02:02, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- HickoryOughtShirt?4 The lack photo is not an issue. It's that I think the article could produce much more interesting hooks, which is one of the criteria. Surtsicna (talk) 14:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- Surtsicna I obviously do not want to speculate but from my experience, it doesn't really matter what your BA is in (unless it's pre-med etc) as long as your grades are good. I have a feeling, based on the time frame, she may have been encouraged to just get a degree and have children. I cannot find any references expanding on her history degree. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- ALT3:... that after earning a Bachelor of Arts degree in history, psychologist Susan Folkman picked up her education 12 years later? An advance for integrative medicine "After spending her first 12 post-college years raising her four children."
- HickoryOughtShirt?4 The lack photo is not an issue. It's that I think the article could produce much more interesting hooks, which is one of the criteria. Surtsicna (talk) 14:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- Surtsicna, So is it G2G besides the photo? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 02:02, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- A photo is not required for DYK; it would just be a very useful addition (and it might make for a lead hook). I suppose that could work as a DoB reference. Surtsicna (talk) 11:56, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Surtsicna, still working on the photo. Re her birthday: on WikiData [1] her birthday is sourced to [2]. Is this okay? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 04:14, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Even better! I now see the article is missing a citation for the date of birth. Hopefully one can be found. Surtsicna (talk) 22:38, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Surtsicna, I have emailed Dr. Folkman and she has provided a photo but forgot to include the permissions. I am waiting on a response from her. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:15, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- The article is new, long enough, and very well referenced. I see no neutrality or copyright issues. The hooks are all cited but I do not think they would draw in readers. The article has a potential for more interesting hooks; for example, Folkman being a stay at home mum for 12 years between earning a BA in history and embarking on an academic career in psychology. (I removed the bit about being a stay at home mum because it was not in the source, but I trust the information is out there somewhere). I am also intrigued by the fact that she first qualified as a historian before becoming an eminent psychologist. Can this be explained in the article a bit better? It might even make for a good hook, unless it's not so unusual in the US.