Template:Did you know nominations/First first-class cricket match in Australia

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Jolly Ω Janner 05:16, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

First first-class cricket match in Australia

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- - Note to closer: Please skip to ALT8 below. Xender Lourdes (talk) 08:13, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
... that the first first-class cricket match in Australia was played on 11 and 12 February 1851?

ALT1:... that the first first-class cricket match in Australia was also the first intercolonial cricket match in Australia?
ALT2:... that the first first-class cricket match in Australia was a timeless match?
ALT3:... that the first first-class cricket match in Australia was played between teams from Port Phillip (Victoria) and Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania)?
ALT4:... that the first ball bowled in the first first-class cricket match in Australia was an underarm delivery?

Created by Xender Lourdes (talk). Self-nominated at 04:56, 7 January 2016 (UTC).

Note: In all the above ALT hooks, as the first first-class cricket match in Australia was played on 11 and 12 February 1851, we could add "played on 11 and 12 February 1851" after the article's name in case this DYK nomination appears on the Main Page on 11 and/or 12 February 2016 and any ALT hook is chosen to be displayed. For example, ALT1 could instead be written as "... that the first first-class cricket match in Australia played on 11 and 12 February 1851 was also the first intercolonial cricket match in Australia?" ALT5 could instead be written as "...that the first ball bowled in the first first-class cricket match in Australia played on 11 and 12 February 1851 was an underarm delivery?" Xender Lourdes (talk) 05:53, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

article is new enough, nominated in due time. With more than 7,000 characters it is long enough. Copyvio unlikely. Article is also currently a good article nominee. All hooks are interesting and sourced. Overall article is interesting. As per request of nominator, if this article gets promoted in February then dates can be mentioned. If it gets promoted soon then there is no need of mention of dates. QPQ not needed. Good to go.--Human3015^{Let It Go} 13:45, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Comment: The article has already been promoted to GA, and has been moved to Port Phillip v Van Diemen's Land, 1851. The obvious hook then is:

ALT5:... that Port Phillip v Van Diemen's Land, 1851 was the first first-class cricket match in Australia?

St Anselm (talk) 03:37, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Or

ALT6:... that the Port Phillip v Van Diemen's Land, 1851 cricket match was also the first first-class cricket match in Australia?

And if this DYK gets featured on the main page on 11 and/or 12 February 2016, then...

ALT7:... that the Port Phillip v Van Diemen's Land, 1851 cricket match played on 11 and 12 February 1851 was also the first first-class cricket match in Australia?

Xender Lourdes (talk) 16:14, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

New name of article seems more appropriate. There are many interesting hooks. Hooks related to "timeless test" and "underarm bowling" are also interesting, but most important thing about this match is that it was first first-class cricket match played in Australia so I will prefer ALT5, ALT6 or ALT7. Good to go. --Human3015^{It will rain} 18:55, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

The article title may work as an article title, but it's completely unnatural in a sentence. Please pipe it to something else, e.g.

ALT8:... that Port Phillip played Van Diemem's Land in the first first-class cricket match in Australia, on 11 and 12 February 1851?

You get the idea. Bencherlite ^Talk 21:35, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, that is much better. Are we supposed to have the comma after "Australia"? St Anselm (talk) 05:30, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

ALT9:... that the cricket match played between Port Phillip and Van Diemen's Land on 11 and 12 February 1851 was the first first-class cricket match in Australia?

Human3015 I have given a fresh hook right above given Bencherlite's absolutely valid point. Bencherlite's hook also works well (it's better, shorter, crisp) in my opinion. Hope this updation works. Xender Lourdes (talk) 08:11, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Anything that avoids "cricket match... cricket match" would be good. Bencherlite ^Talk 09:27, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Correct. So ALT8 it is as per me (but we'll wait for Human3015's go-ahead I think). Xender Lourdes (talk) 10:22, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I think ALT8 is best as well. St Anselm (talk) 01:53, 5 February 2016 (UTC)