Template:Did you know nominations/K-143 (Kansas highway)
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The result was: promoted by PanydThe muffin is not subtle 01:09, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
K-143 (Kansas highway)
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- ... that K-143 (Kansas highway) attracts thousands of cars every day?
- Comment: The thousands of cars every day is a reference to the highway's average annual daily traffic numbers.
Created/expanded by Ks0stm (talk). Self nom at 02:55, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Meets the criteria, since this is the users first DYK nom.Jason Rees (talk) 03:37, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Jason Rees, as the reviewer, did it not strike you that the hook is poor for two reasons? (1) The article title should be piped, not left as "K-143 (Kansas highway)". (2) The hook effectively is "Did you know... that thousands of cars use some road in Kansas every day?" Where's the interest in that? BencherliteTalk 00:37, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- I can pipe the link; as for the hook itself, it was the best I could come up with out of what is basically an article on a pretty dull topic...my only other possibility was even more dull. I have to admit though, as a first time nominator I don't see why a highway in the middle of Kansas should be any less worthy of being included on DYK than any other article, and all in all the mentality I'm picking up on that ordinary things can't be bothered with at DYK is really putting me off the whole concept. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 00:43, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- My criticism about the failure to pipe the hook is not directed at you, Ks0stm. It's an easy mistake to make on your first visit here but one that a reviewer should spot. I'm sorry you feel that there's an attitude that ordinary things are less worthy of inclusion; but as WP:WIADYK says (emphasis added), DYK consists of a series of "hooks", which are interesting facts taken from Wikipedia's newest content, of the format "Did you know that...?" Thus, to nominate something to appear on DYK, an editor must either write or identify new content (see below for what qualifies as "new") and propose an interesting "hook". It is not always impossible to find an interesting fact in an article about an ordinary topic. However, if there's no interesting hook that can be found for an article, then it's not really DYK material... and, well, I'm struggling to find anything that would make an "interesting hook" in your article, as you seem to admit. BencherliteTalk 01:14, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- Given that DYK has recently been in a bit of a shortage, I don't see the need to reject an article just because the article itself is mundane. That said, the hook does need help. How's this? - The Bushranger One ping only 17:51, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that despite being a four-lane divided highway, K-143 is not part of the National Highway System?
- I would not be objected to this hook; it's actually very similar to the alternate one that I had. I should note, however, that only part of the highway is four-lane divided...the majority of it is two lane. I'm not sure how generally things like this are phrased on DYK, though. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 01:35, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
- The fact the highway is part-four-lane and part-two-lane is probably a little too much to slip into the 200-character hook without looking awkward, I'd think? But is there any way the PMIS query can be linked directly to the query results? - The Bushranger One ping only 01:48, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
- I would not be objected to this hook; it's actually very similar to the alternate one that I had. I should note, however, that only part of the highway is four-lane divided...the majority of it is two lane. I'm not sure how generally things like this are phrased on DYK, though. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 01:35, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
- My criticism about the failure to pipe the hook is not directed at you, Ks0stm. It's an easy mistake to make on your first visit here but one that a reviewer should spot. I'm sorry you feel that there's an attitude that ordinary things are less worthy of inclusion; but as WP:WIADYK says (emphasis added), DYK consists of a series of "hooks", which are interesting facts taken from Wikipedia's newest content, of the format "Did you know that...?" Thus, to nominate something to appear on DYK, an editor must either write or identify new content (see below for what qualifies as "new") and propose an interesting "hook". It is not always impossible to find an interesting fact in an article about an ordinary topic. However, if there's no interesting hook that can be found for an article, then it's not really DYK material... and, well, I'm struggling to find anything that would make an "interesting hook" in your article, as you seem to admit. BencherliteTalk 01:14, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- I can pipe the link; as for the hook itself, it was the best I could come up with out of what is basically an article on a pretty dull topic...my only other possibility was even more dull. I have to admit though, as a first time nominator I don't see why a highway in the middle of Kansas should be any less worthy of being included on DYK than any other article, and all in all the mentality I'm picking up on that ordinary things can't be bothered with at DYK is really putting me off the whole concept. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 00:43, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately not. I tried to do that on K-104 (Kansas highway) but ended up having to just link to the search page. An example of what happens when you link to the results is [1]...all you get is a blank report page. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 02:10, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
- Ouch.
AGFing then that the information cited from the database is in there. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:46, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
- Ouch.
- As a UK editor, I have no idea whether one would ordinarily expect a four-lane divided highway in Kansas to be part of the US National Highway System, and I will bow to the superior knowledge of those with views about such matters. I have no real complaints about the article itself (although I'd be happier if the article didn't depend on a [http://www.ksdot.org/matreslab/pmis/query.asp website search page for eight references) so if Jason or someone else is happy with the revised hook, go ahead. BencherliteTalk 17:59, 8 November 2011 (UTC)