Template:Did you know nominations/8-Pass Charlie

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The result was: rejected by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:05, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
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8-Pass Charlie

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... that a Pakistan Air Force B-57 ace was named 8-Pass Charlie by his impressed Indian adversaries for a habit of dropping each bomb selectively in 8 different passes instead of a single safe drop?

Created/expanded by TopGun (talk). Self nom at 18:19, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Misleading, The unknown pilot does not qualify as ace no source to back up the claim that he was an ace. And there is nothing known as Bomber ace. I dont thing we need to have misleading info as DYK on homepage--DBig Xray 11:45, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

I've removed the link to flying ace to prevent confusion. You need to use the brain some times. Every thing is sourced. And after being told multiple times at WQA and ANI not to hound me or interact with me you've yet again appeared at two of my DYK submissions. Yet, I've (also) removed the objectionable part. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:11, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

From what I see there is already too much WP:AOBF and admin shopping going on. --DBig Xray 14:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Have fun with that... I've addressed the concerns here.. this is good to go, --lTopGunl (talk) 14:12, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Not done This hook fails criteria 1 as nor it has been newly created nor has been expanded in 5 days but it has taken 4 years to come up here. Correct me if I m wrong. →TSU ^tp* 15:41, 4 July 2012 (UTC) PS: Before anyone accuses me of hounding, I would like to clarify that I stalk Dave's talk page. Cheers! →TSU ^tp* 15:41, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
FYI the rule of expansion is relaxed sometimes. Sometimes if the hook is interesting. Besides biography articles need to be expanded two folds to become eligible for DYK and this one is expanded about 2.3 times. --SMS ^Talk 16:05, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Criteria is often 3.5 when it is interesting.. and this one obviously is. --lTopGunl (talk) 16:27, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Hook is catchy and article is interesting, expanded more than 2 times (a biography). --SMS ^Talk 16:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
SMS, the 2x expansion is only valid if the article had been completely unsourced prior to expansion; as this article had two sources when the recent work began, it is ineligible for the exception and must be expanded 5x. According to DYKcheck, the article had 760 prose characters as of 14 January 2012; it needs 3800 characters now, and has only 2126, which is 2.8x. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:28, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
No attempt to expand the article as needed for DYK in the past week; article cannot be approved. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:11, 12 July 2012 (UTC)