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The Completion Backward Principle
Studio album by
Released6 April 1981
RecordedAugust 1980
StudioRecord One (Los Angeles)
GenreRock
Length39:30
LabelCapitol
ProducerDavid Foster
The Tubes chronology
T.R.A.S.H. (Tubes Rarities and Smash Hits)
(1979)
The Completion Backward Principle
(1981)
Outside Inside
(1983)
Singles from The Completion Backward Principle
  1. "Don't Want to Wait Anymore"
    Released: June 1981 (1981-06)
  2. "Talk to Ya Later"
    Released: 1981 (1981)

The Completion Backward Principle is the fifth studio album by the American rock group the Tubes. It is the group's first for Capitol Records. It was accompanied by a long form music video release of the same name, although it did not contain all of the songs from the album. It is a concept album presented as a motivational business document. The album contains two hit singles, "Don't Want to Wait Anymore" and "Talk to Ya Later."

Background

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After the release of their fourth studio album, Remote Control, and after their time filming and recording for Xanadu and its soundtrack, The Tubes found themselves dropped by record label A&M. The group spent much of 1980 searching for a new label, eventually finding Capitol Records through Bobby Colomby of Blood, Sweat, & Tears.[1] Reportedly, their three-album contract with Capitol allowed the label to drop The Tubes if any of the three records were not commercially successful.[2] Colomby claimed the band needed a new producer in order to achieve the commercial success they had been looking for, and eventually introduced the group to David Foster. Foster, who had just come off of Earth, Wind & Fire's "I Am", agreed to produce the group. Some time after this, lead vocalist Fee Waybill alleges that he discovered a spoken-word motivational record from the 1950s in a record store, and used the sales pitch as the central concept to the band's next album.[3] “The sales technique was that ‘imagination creates reality,’ which it turns out, was a metaphor for someone like me, who grew up singing Beatles songs around the house dying to be in a band,” Waybill said in later interviews.[4] The 2011 remaster liner notes claim keyboardist Michael Cotten instead found the record.

Recording

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In the liner notes of the 2011 remaster, Brett Milano asserts that the band's approach to recording was "to make an album of memorable stand-alone songs; not a soundtrack for the live show." Foster would often have input on the sound of the band's tracks, resulting in co-writing credits for "Amnesia", "Don't Want To Wait Anymore", and "Let's Make Some Noise". Foster also had control over what songs were and weren't on the album, opting to cut the track "Sports Fans" among others (which would later become a live staple before being included on the 2011 remaster). As well, Foster oversaw the recording process meticulously. Whereas Rundgren allowed the band to use as many takes as they needed, Foster reportedly demanded near-perfection from the group's performances.[5] Notorious for sending band musicians home and replacing them with session musicians if they couldn't perform to his level, Foster initially included additional backup singers, such as Colomby and Bill Champlin.

Notable in the album's track list is "Mr. Hate", a track inspired heavily by then-alleged murderer Mark McDermand.[6] The track was written during a time where McDermand seemed to be an innocent man, and as such the lyrics paint the character as an anti-hero as opposed to an outright villain. By 1984, McDermand had been convicted of two counts of murder.[7] The song's name comes from a note found at the scene of the crime for which McDermand was convicted, signed "Mr. Hate."[8]

Upon what would have been the conclusion of the recording sessions at Record One studios,[9] Foster felt as if the album lacked a true single. The band initially suggested "Let's Make Some Noise" and "What's Wrong With Me", but Foster instead relegated the tracks to an album cut and a B-side, respectively. Foster instead brought in Steve Lukather, guitarist for Toto. Lukather, Foster, Waybill, and The Tubes' drummer Prairie Prince reportedly recorded "Talk to Ya Later" in a single-day session, The title and hook was taken from engineer Humberto Gatica, who deflected the band's questions with the phrase.[10] To bolster the album's single lineup, Foster also made changes to "Don't Want To Wait Anymore". An unnamed band member in the 2011 liner notes said "the big choral ending that kicks your ass, that was his idea; and the modulation at the end".

Packaging and design

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The album was given a sleek, minimalist aesthetic, with the band only billed as "Tubes" on the front cover, which displayed only a T-shaped piece of PVC pipe casting a shadow on a blue background. The album's design and packaging also parodied the growing corporatism of America, with photos of the band members wearing business suits and album notes billing them as "The Tubes Group", with a slogan of "credibility, growth, direction", and the performance credits including joke credits such as "Analysis", "Motivation", and "Policy".

Reception and fallout

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Professional ratings
Review scores
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AllMusic[11]

The album was received well by critics, and was at the time the band's best selling and charting album. The album's first release and first top 40 hit, "Don't Want to Wait Anymore", peaked at number 35 for two weeks on the US Billboard Hot 100[12] and for one week on the Cashbox Top 100.[13] It also reached number 22 on the Billboard Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks chart. "Talk to Ya Later" hit number 6 on the Billboard Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks chart. It also spent five weeks on the Billboard Bubbling Under chart, peaking at number 101 and also had a music video produced for the song.[14]

However, internally, things were tense. After "Talk to Ya Later" proved massively successful despite no input from the majority of the band, Foster intended to take the group in a similar direction, with the band's following album Outside Inside featuring even more session musicians and guest writers than before, including a return appearance by Lukather. These tensions would result in the group fragmenting and temporarily disbanding in 1985 after Waybill's debut solo album and the failure of the Rundgren-produced Love Bomb.

Track listing

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All tracks composed by The Tubes; except where indicated. Song timings taken from original LP.[15]

Original LP side one
No.TitleWriter(s)Length
1."Talk to Ya Later"The Tubes; David Foster; Steve Lukather4:41
2."Sushi Girl" 3:28
3."Amnesia"The Tubes; Foster4:25
4."Mr. Hate" 3:35
5."Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman"The Tubes; Michael Snyder4:30
Original LP side two
No.TitleWriter(s)Length
1."Think About Me" 3:16
2."A Matter of Pride" 3:13
3."Don't Want to Wait Anymore"The Tubes; Foster4:16
4."Power Tools" 4:04[nb 1]
5."Let's Make Some Noise"The Tubes; Foster3:24
Total length:39:30
2011 remastered CD bonus tracks
No.TitleWriter(s)Length
11."Tube Talk" (album outtake, from "Talk to Ya Later" single) 1:19
12."What's Wrong With Me" (album outtake, from "Talk to Ya Later" single) 3:59
13."Gonna Get It Next Time" (from Modern Problems soundtrack)Dominic Frontiere; Adrienne Anderson4:00
14."Sports Fans" (non-album single) 4:25
Total length:53:13

CD Mastered by Vic Anesini at Battery Studios, NY.

Video

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  1. Think About Me (Instrumental Intro)
  2. A Matter of Pride
  3. Sports Fans
  4. Amnesia
  5. Mr. Hate
  6. Mondo Bondage
  7. Don't Want to Wait Anymore
  8. Business
  9. Talk to Ya Later
  10. Sushi Girl
  11. Let's Make Some Noise
  12. Weebee Dance
  13. White Punks on Dope

This video was choreographed by Kenny Ortega.

"White Punks on Dope" is included after the closing credits, and contains many scenes from the Tubes early cable access TV appearances as well as footage from early shows where Waybill would play the part of Quay Lewd.

Personnel

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The Tubes

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Additional personnel

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Charts

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References

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  1. ^ Adams, Christopher (2020-02-04). "Interview with The Tubes lead singer Fee Waybill – The Completion Backward Principle". ForTheLoveOfBands. Retrieved 2021-03-27.
  2. ^ Jennings, Thom. "Talkin' the Tubes' 'Completion Backward Principle'". Niagara Gazette. Retrieved 2021-03-27.
  3. ^ Cashmere, Paul (2019-03-12). "The Tubes to Perform Entire 'The Completion Backward Principle' live". Noise11.com. Retrieved 2021-03-27.
  4. ^ Cashmere, Paul (2019-03-12). "The Tubes to Perform Entire 'The Completion Backward Principle' live". Noise11.com. Retrieved 2021-03-27.
  5. ^ Adams, Christopher (2020-02-04). "Interview with The Tubes lead singer Fee Waybill – The Completion Backward Principle". ForTheLoveOfBands. Retrieved 2021-03-27.
  6. ^ Adams, Christopher (2020-02-04). "Interview with The Tubes lead singer Fee Waybill – The Completion Backward Principle". ForTheLoveOfBands. Retrieved 2021-03-27.
  7. ^ "FindLaw's California Court of Appeal case and opinions". Findlaw. Retrieved 2021-03-27.
  8. ^ https://law.justia.com/cases/california/court-of-appeal/3d/162/770.html [bare URL]
  9. ^ Morsch, Mike (23 October 2019). "The Tubes enthusiastically moving forward with 'The Completion Backward Principle' tour". The Vinyl Dialogues Blog. Retrieved 1 September 2022.
  10. ^ "The Tubes enthusiastically moving forward with 'The Completion Backward Principle' tour". The Vinyl Dialogues Blog. 2019-10-24. Retrieved 2021-03-27.
  11. ^ Demalon, Tom. "The Tubes: The Completion Backward Principle". AllMusic. Retrieved September 14, 2018.
  12. ^ "Lyrics: Don't Want To Wait Anymore by The Tubes". top40db.net.
  13. ^ "Top 100 1981-08-08". Cashbox Magazine. Retrieved 2014-12-25.
  14. ^ The Tubes (March 13, 2009). "The Tubes - Talk To Ya Later". YouTube.com. Archived from the original on 2021-12-12. Retrieved January 17, 2021.
  15. ^ The Completion Backward Principle (album). The Tubes. Hollywood, California: Capitol Records, Inc. 1981. SOO-12151
  16. ^ Kent, David (1993). Australian Chart Book 1970–1992 (illustrated ed.). St Ives, N.S.W.: Australian Chart Book. p. 314. ISBN 0-646-11917-6.
  17. ^ "RPM Top 50 Albums - August 29, 1981" (PDF).
  18. ^ "Offiziellecharts.de – The Tubes – The Completion Backward Principle" (in German). GfK Entertainment Charts. Retrieved February 1, 2022.
  19. ^ "Charts.nz – The Tubes – The Completion Backward Principle". Hung Medien. Retrieved February 1, 2022.
  20. ^ "Norwegiancharts.com – The Tubes – The Completion Backward Principle". Hung Medien. Retrieved February 1, 2022.
  21. ^ "Swedishcharts.com – The Tubes – The Completion Backward Principle". Hung Medien. Retrieved February 1, 2022.
  22. ^ "The Tubes Chart History: Billboard 200". Billboard.com. 2019. Archived from the original on July 2, 2019. Retrieved August 29, 2019.
  23. ^ "Top Selling Albums of 1981 — The Official New Zealand Music Chart". Recorded Music New Zealand. Retrieved February 1, 2022.

Notes

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  1. ^ Original versions of the album included a roughly 13-second snippet from "Amnesia" at the end of this track. On later editions, this was moved to the end of "Mr. Hate", where it fades directly into the beginning of "Attack of the Fifty-Foot Woman."[citation needed]