Talk:Zorobabela Kaʻauwai

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A fact from Zorobabela Kaʻauwai appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 January 2017 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Zorobabela Kaʻauwai accompanied his patron Hoapili into battle in the suppression of Humehume's rebellion?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2017/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zorobabela Kaauwai.

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Identity of the churches

Need to identify the churches mentioned in Makawao, Wailuku and Kalaniʻohua.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:14, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Additional sources

Kaau (folder) - Kaauwai, Z. ~ 1844, 1854

Requested move 2 December 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. There appears to be a consensus to retain the okina in Hawaiian articles, despite the guideline at WP:TSC that says they generally should not be used. Until there can be a broad discussion of this guideline, and WP:TSC amended either way, this should stay where it is. (non-admin closure) Brad v 02:33, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Zorobabela Kaʻauwai → Zorobabela Kaauwai – per WP:TITLESPECIALCHARACTERS: Various apostrophe(-like) variants (’ʻ ʾ ʿ ᾿ ῾ ‘ ’ c), should generally not be used in page titles. — JJMC89 (T·C) 17:58, 2 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 19:26, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This is really annoying me right now. Please make up your guys' minds by the end of this request move and move all the other articles I've created in the last two days with the Kaauwai name to this version if this is closed as against the move . WikiProject Hawaii allows for the proper use of Hawaiian orthographical marks the okina and the kahako in article bodies, but it can be used properly or not at all in the titles.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:18, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – I think the okina is generally acceptable where appropriate. Perhaps the quoted section should be amend to say so? Dicklyon (talk) 06:25, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- The policy clearly states that the okina should not be used. Your opinion does not supersede policy. You're more than welcome to start an RFC to propose such a change, but until such a community consensus is documented, we follow the current policy. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: User:JJMC89, can you explain how the policy clearly states that the okina should not be used? It doesn't read that way to me at all. WP:TITLESPECIALCHARACTERS bans the use of # < > [ ] | { } _ for technical reasons, and recommends generally avoiding various apostrophe(-like) variants of which this is one. However it also provides instructions as exceptionally, other variants are used. Isn't this exactly a case of this usage? Andrewa (talk) 19:33, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- General avoidance seems pretty clear to me. Why does the apostrophe(-like) variants part exist if the apostrophe(-like) variants are supposed to be used in article titles when the "correct" usage includes them? Also, based on a quick scan of the references in the article, not using the okina is more common than using it. — JJMC89 (T·C) 08:09, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.