Talk:Zoia Ceaușescu

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Name

Is her correct name Zoia or Zoe? Some newspapers (i.e. Gardianul) present her name as Zoe while others (such as Evenimentul Zilei) give Zoia. The Romanian Wikipedia article is at ro:Zoe Ceauşescu. Ronline ✉ 05:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both seem to be widely used. I personally prefer 'Zoia', but we should probably go with what the Romanian Wiki uses. - Francis Tyers · 10:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why? bogdan 10:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno, one would have thought that as Romanians they would know what they were doing with members of the "dictatorial family". Maybe I'm wrong ;) - Francis Tyers · 10:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't know, but her name must have either been Zoe or Zoia. There's no two ways about it :) Is there any official source to check this? We can't use Zoia if she was actually called Zoe, or Zoe is she was actually called Zoia. I personally think it's Zoe. UPDATE: According to Monitorul de Sibiu, "Zoe Ceausescu, fosta Zoia Ceausescu, sau Zoica, cum era alintata de parinti". So, it seems the "official" name was Zoe and Zoia may just have a nickname (perhaps a Romanian-articulated version of Zoe?).

Ronline ✉ 11:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

actually, it's from Russian Zoya. BTW, she signs her name as "Zoia" in a mathematics journal. [1] it would be strange to use a nickname for that. bogdan 11:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll second that. In the 22 articles listed on MathSciNet with her as an author or co-author (as mentioned in the article), she is listed consistently as either Zoia or Z. So, whatever the press choses to call her (even if Zoe was indeed her birth name), I'd go with her professional name. On the other hand, if a reference can be found that she was really named Zoe on her birth certificate, that info could be mentioned in parenthesis in the beginning of the article, I think. Turgidson 15:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A question

To quote from the article: A confirmed relation that she had prior to her marriage was with Petre Roman, the person that later overthrew and killed her father, became prime minister, and kept her and her husband in jail. This sounds really over the top to me. Did really Roman kill Ceauşescu? I thought he was executed by a firing squad. Turgidson 05:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The entire paragraph added on january 5 is POV, and would be nuked under BLP. As a recently deceased, I think it's reasonnable to nuke it as unsourced POV. Circeus 17:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I still asked User:Nareklm to have a look at this.Circeus 18:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks -- I wasn't sure what to do about that edit, but it did look awfully out of line to me. I'm still relatively new at wikipedia, so I'd be interested in finding out, for future reference, what is the recommended course of action in such a case: should one (1) simply revert an edit that looks so over the top, or (2) leave a message on the talk page, like I did, or (3) contact an admin (which one? how?). Turgidson 19:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would say just remove it, theres no significant importance of it plus its unsourced, causes more trouble either remove it or reword it. Nareklm 23:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References

I've done a search of the refs within this article and they are either a bad link or there is no story as outlined for instance in the LA Times. I've gone to the Times website and not one item have I been able to bring up regarding Zoia/Zoe.

These references need to be cleaned up, hopefully after others have a chance to look around as well to validate or invalidate what's here, especially information in the article that is not only poorly written but based on suggestive info from references that do not exist. Brattysoul (talk) 21:10, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Support from mathematicians

I knew a mathematician at Bell Labs who was involved in a letter writing campaign by several mathematicians around the world, asking the new government to not execute Zoia. DonPMitchell (talk) 18:42, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can you substantiate any of this with sources? Salvapdivad (talk) 00:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Got her PhD in '77, then worked at an institute which was disbanded 2 years prior?

The Biography section includes the following:

She received her Ph.D. in 1977 with thesis On Intertwining Dilations written under the direction of Ciprian Foias. Ceaușescu then worked as a researcher at the Institute of Mathematics of the Romanian Academy in Bucharest. Her field of specialization was functional analysis. Allegedly, her parents were unhappy with their daughter's choice of doing research in mathematics, so the Institute was disbanded in 1975.

How is it possible that she got her PhD in 1977, then worked at the Insitute of Mathematics, which was, according to information in the same paragraph, disbanded 2 years before she got her PhD?

The Wiki page for the Institute of Mathematics states she was hired in '74. I've changed the information in the aforementioned paragraph to reflect this. Information on when exactly she got her PhD should also be checked for accuracy; I highly doubt she was working as a researcher 3 years before getting her PhD, especially because she seems to have published quite a few papers, so I assume she actually knew her stuff, unlike her mother, who got a foot in the door in chemistry purely due to her policital power.Salvapdivad (talk) 00:34, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]