Talk:Yugra

Russia: History / Human geography / Demographics & ethnography Mid‑importance

	Russia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Russia, a WikiProject dedicated to coverage of Russia on Wikipedia. To participate: Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the project page, or contribute to the project discussion.RussiaWikipedia:WikiProject RussiaTemplate:WikiProject RussiaRussia articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the history of Russia task force.
	This article is supported by the human geography of Russia task force.
	This article is supported by the demographics and ethnography of Russia task force.

Hungary Mid‑importance

	Hungary portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hungary, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Hungary on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HungaryWikipedia:WikiProject HungaryTemplate:WikiProject HungaryHungary articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Anthropology: Oral tradition

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anthropology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Anthropology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AnthropologyWikipedia:WikiProject AnthropologyTemplate:WikiProject AnthropologyAnthropology articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the importance scale.
	This article is supported by Oral tradition taskforce.

Untitled

For Vince: before you say again that this is not Hungarian Old Homeland, check this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hungarian_migration03.gif You can see that here are 2 territories named "Magyar Oshaza" (Hungarian Old Homeland), one of them is located in Bashkiria and another one in Yugra, and from Yugra, Hungarians moved to Bashkiria. Also read this too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyars#East_of_the_Ural_mountains_.28before_the_4th_century_AD.29 Do you see there a title "East of the Ural mountains"? If you have problem with geography, then you should know that Yugra is in the east of Ural, and Bashkiria is in the west. PANONIAN (talk) 12:59, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zolotaja Baba (Kultainen Akka)

This golden natural size statue described as the "Holiest Object" of Handa-hui people. There are many stories of this missing legendary statue. Some even published during Soviet era. In Finnish literature the old stories of "Siperian Kultainen Akka" have also appeared.

Timofei Jermak tried to find it by torturing Handa-hui shamans but they chose painful death without saying where this statue was hidden. As a revenge for Jermak´s cruelty a Handa-hui soldier managed to kill Jermak by shooting his horse in the middle of 1.5 metre deep river. Jermak was drownded because he weared so heavy armour that he could not stay up from water.

Most likely the Zolotaja Baba has a Roman origin. Old Handa-hui folklores tell of their brave soldiers which went to war from Jugra and when returned much later back from their war journey "to the edge of the warm sea" they bought with them the statue of Zolotaja Baba.

JN

Location of Yugra?

I'm a little confused by the description of the location of Yugra. The text says it's between the Urals and the Pechora, which is the western side of the Urals. But then it talks about the Khanty and Mansi, who are on the eastern side of the Urals. 128.135.222.164 (talk) 07:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On the one hand, the Mansi apparently used to live west of the Urals as well (within today's Komi Republic, I guess); on the other hand, Yugra may sometimes have been defined to include the eastern slope of the Urals too (as shown e.g. on Herberstein's map in the article). The 16th-century geography wasn't that precise... Vmenkov (talk) 07:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

riverland in translat 176.65.114.49 (talk) 12:40, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I also think this needs clarification. In addition to the fact that the Khanty and Mansi live east of the Urals, the map depicting Yugra principalities in the 15th century depicts an area around the Ob River, also east of the Urals. It seems that there is a lot indicating the term referred to an area east of the Urals and not much indicating it referred to anywhere west of them. I don't see a source for the claim that it referred to an area between the Pechora and Urals either, I'd like to know where that came from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.48.193.141 (talk) 04:17, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed

Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: https://arpad.abtk.hu/images/kiadvanyok/libri_2-csokkentett-meret.pdf (translation). Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)

For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and, if allowed under fair use, may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, provided it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore, such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. – Isochrone (T) 22:04, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]