Talk:William Carpenter (Rhode Island colonist)

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I added genealogical information on William's wife, Elizabeth Arnold, including links to William Arnold (settler) and Benedict Arnold (governor) since both of these articles are being further developed.Sarnold17 (talk) 00:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Reconstructed Y-DNA of William Carpenter of Rhode Island

William Carpenter (Rhode Island) reconstructed Y-DNA is from two published sources online. Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project Group 2 - Table 1 links to Table 2 via red arrows on right side. The line showing for William is the group consensus or group mode. This is the reconstructed DYS markers.
http://www.carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm#table1
http://www.carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm#table2
http://www.carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm#table3
http://www.carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm#table4
Family Tree DNA
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/carpenter%20cousins%20%20dna/default.aspx?section=ycolorized
Reset markers to Y-DNA 111 and press enter to reset the page. Scroll right on Group 2 to see MODE markers. This is the reconstructed DYS markers. Jrcrin001 (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

These are just web pages, not peer- or editor-reviewed reliable sources. Wikipedia was never intended to just parrot anything found on the internet. Agricolae (talk) 19:33, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Genetic research

The Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project has conducted Genealogical DNA testing on twenty males with genealogical paper trails. Nine males who have incomplete genealogical data but match genetically were placed in subgroups of Group 2. These twenty nine males are believed to be descendant of the immigrant William Carpenter (born about 1610) who settled in Providence, Rhode Island from England.

• Comment: Below this line has been removed from the article because of Original Research/no Reliable Source. Yet it is nothing but a rewording and table form of what is published on line. I agree that FTDNA should also be cited. But OR & no reliable source? Could it be that the editor wanted citation for the deleted section?

The haplotype DNA testing of representative samples of members of Group 2 based on Single-nucleotide polymorphism or SNP testing reveals Haplogroup R1a1*.

Table 1 shows the reconstructed haplotype of William Carpenter (born about 1605) showing 74 Y-STR markers.

Table 1. - William Carpenter (ca1610 - 1685) reconstructed Y-STR haplotype

Y-STR	Allele	Y-STR	Allele	Y-STR	Allele	Y-STR	Allele	Y-STR	Allele
DYS393	13	DYS390	25	DYS19	16	DYS391	10	DYS385a	11
DYS385b	14	DYS426	12	DYS388	12	DYS439	10	DYS381i	13
DYS392	11	DYS382ii	29	DYS458	15	DYS459a	9	DYS459b	10
DYS455	11	DYS454	11	DYS447	24	DYS437	14	DYS448	20
DYS449	32	DYS464a	11	DYS464b	14	DYS464c	15	DYS464d	16
DYS460	11	Y-GATA-H4	12	YCA-IIa	19	YCA-IIb	23	DYS456	16
DYS607	16	DYS576	20	DYS570	20	CDYa	33	CDYb	35
DYS442	14	DYS438	11	DYS441	14	DYS444	12	DYS445	11
DYS446	12	DYS461	11	DYS462	11	DYS463	11	Y-GATA-A10	13
DYS635	23	Y-GGAAT-1B07	9	DYS531	11	DYS578	8
DYS395a	16	DYS395b	17	DYS590	8	DYS537	12	DYS641	10
DYS472	8	DYS406s1	11	DYS511	10	DYS425	12	DYS413a	211
DYS413b	22	DYS557	15	DYS594	10	DYS436	12	DYS490	12
DYS534	13	DYS450	8	DYS481	24	DYS520	21
DYS520	21	DYS617	12	DYS568	11	DYS487	13	DYS572	11
DYS640	11	DYS492	12	DYS565	13

Notes: 1) See List of Y-STR markers for explanation of the markers.

Jrcrin001 (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

A self-published family group website is not a WP:RS. And while we are at it, this is just WP:INDISCRIMINATE information that is not suitable for a general-purpose biography of the man. There is a genetic genealogy wiki site,[1] specifically created for this type of information, and that is the place this material belongs. Agricolae (talk) 19:42, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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